GOP Congressman Wants Iraq Timetable - Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C

AP ^ | 7:25 pm CDT June 12, 2005 | AP

[atlanta67]

""Without the wealth and support of the West the Muslim world will collapse"


We give aid to Egypt and Jordan. We dont give aid to other middle eastern countries. I think you greatly overstate that the entire muslim world would collapse without american aid. It is as though you think american aid caused 9-11

[atlanta67]

""Walter Jones is no liberal, either.""

No but he is stupid and giving hope to Al Qaeda

[spinestein]

[Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C is someone who is not a left-wing fascist anti-American coward is a concerned American who does not sit down and shut up while our government misleads us into war. Perle and his buddy Iranian Agent Chalabi leads us to Iraq so we would lose credibility and now wont act against Iran's REAL nuclear threat. And we took care of Iran's competition for hegemony in the Middle East.]


[Those are not conspiracy theories but FACTS.]

[Remember last spring 2004 US troops raided property of Chalabi and they said he was leaking information to Iran.]

[Chalabi fled the country and went back to Tehran, furthermore he is a Shia Muslim.]

[Of course I could ignore all that and just live in bliss like you by drinking the Kool Aid.]







I like pizza.

Do you like pizza?

[montag813]

But given that, Bush is a very poor communicator on the WOT

Amen to that.

[Evolution]

We dont give aid to other middle eastern countries

Pakistan,Saudi Arabia,Yemen,Kuwait,United Arab Emirates,Indonesia etc.. get American money through foriegn aid, military aid or oil consumption.

I think you greatly overstate that the entire muslim world would collapse without american aid. It is as though you think american aid caused 9-11

Before our use of Muslim oil in the 1930's the Muslim world was nothing their was no Saudi Royal Monarchy or anything. We propped it all up for oil and it is destroying us.

Without our assistance they cannot produce the oil and will go to the dustbin of history. All the oil workers and contracters are Westerners, they keep their people so ignorant they cannot sustain their own wealth.

[Evolution]

Do you like pizza?

NO it is just empty carbs with a little Cheese and sauce.

Pure Junk Food, but if you want it then keeping eating it I am not a health Nazi.

[savedbygrace]

Jones said he began changing his mind about the war after attending the funeral of a U.S. service member killed in Iraq.

Sure sounds like an emotional decision, rather than a rational one.

[spinestein]

[Before our use of Muslim oil in the 1930's the Muslim world was nothing their was no Saudi Royal Monarchy or anything. We propped it all up for oil and it is destroying us.]


Oil has nothing to do with their attitude toward the West.

The Middle East has been a collection of unstable, feuding tribal dictatorships for its entire history. We didn't create problems in the region by buying oil from them, anymore than we created problems in South America or Russia by buying oil there.

The source of the problem is the Middle East dictators, who happen to be in charge today, view the Western World as infringing on their way of life and they don't like it, so they feel it's necessary to promote hatred for the West among the peasantry.

It needs to be understood that the West IS infringing on their way of life. Modern democracy and human rights are becoming the world standard, and there is a lot of international pressure on these dictators to step aside and make way for accountable governments, and they're not willing to simply give up their cushy palaces full of harem girls without a fight. They know that democratic countries like Israel, and now Afghanistan and Iraq are dangerous precedents to allow to exist and if they can Bee Ess enough of their populations with a constant barrage of religious zealotry, forced on them from the day they're born and with no other opinions available, aimed at inciting hatred for foreigners, then that benefits the leaders and makes it more likely that they'll keep their posh lifestyle for one more day.

Listen to what the members of terrorist organizations are saying about WHY they hate the West. None of it's based on any reality about the West and it sounds like a bunch of paranoid ramblings that only make sense when you realize it's all fabricated by the various government sponsored, militant religious organizations of the Middle East for the sole purpose of creating hatred of foreigners.

[MrBambaLaMamba]

Does Walter have a timetable for the United States to withdraw from Europe? or Korea?

D'OH! That's right - those were democrat supported wars.

The best way to end war and ensure peace is to kill the enemy.

[Osage Orange]

Jones said he began changing his mind about the war after attending the funeral of a U.S. service member killed in Iraq.

Sure sounds like an emotional decision, rather than a rational one

Nailed it..!!

We have a WINNER..!!

[savedbygrace]

Thank you, brother.

[Evolution]

. We didn't create problems in the region by buying oil from them,

Actually we did our oil purchases fund the governments which fund the terrorists.

Our oil purchases fund the population growths and expansions which are the reason for the huge Muslim population we have today.

Becoming energy independent is an important step in defeating Islam.

The source of the problem is the Middle East dictators,

Look at Democracy in Muslim countries and look at Dictatorships either way we have governments that hate us.

In Lebanon Hezibollah is a mainstream party, in the Palestinian terroritories Hamas is a mainstream party, in Iraq Shia Muslims friendly with Iran won, the fact is it is their whole Islamic culture and Islam itself that is the problem.

OF course our leaders are scared to death to say this for a few reasons. But it is our investment in the Muslim world that allows them to be a potential force.

Without our oil, assistance, or aid they would collapse overnight. They are unable to produce oil themselves and have no other resource and engenuity to offer. They would simply Implode and go back to the hellhole they came from.

[atlanta67]

We dont give aid to Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE.

indonesia isnt a middle eastern country.

Stationaing military forces in those countries isnt done out of aultruism, you do it for our own national security

I stand by what I said that the muslim world wount collapse . The entire US foreign aid budget is about $15b annually with Israel and Egypt getting half