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Mother Explains Fatal Pit Bull Mauling
Yahoo News ^ | June 12, 2005

Posted on 06/12/2005 9:37:04 PM PDT by Rennes Templar

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To: Rennes Templar
She was worried enough to put jer son in the basement, yet she admits it was typical of him not to listen. She admits the dog was being aggressive. More than enough to prove she should have expected what happened.

I admit this story has educated me. I knew pit bulls were bred for fighting, but I believed all the commentary that, unless mistreated, they are perfectly normal dogs.

Recently I ran into a very nice fellow who had been watching a stray pit bull for two days. He was searching for the owner. The dog was young but fully grown. It came runnibg over and was extremely sweet and friendly. It was running around wonderfully with his kids, who were very young.

This fellow told me his kids loved the dog, but he already had a dog and he was afraid of the pit bull because "these dogs are killers." I stupidly said that maybe if they're not trained to attack they're ok. I could tell he ignored me as uninformed. I think he was right.

The pit bull was loveable. I was impressed. I've had German Sheperds which are big powerful dogs. But I've never had a breed that would attack and kill it's own family member because the female was in heat. This story is a huge eye opener to me.

41 posted on 06/12/2005 10:23:08 PM PDT by Williams
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To: unbalanced but fair

I'm amazed at how many people accept food aggression in their dogs.


42 posted on 06/12/2005 10:24:19 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Rennes Templar

I have owned large, aggressive dogs most of my life.

I have had pits, rotts, dobermans, mastiffs, and chows - none has ever attacked anyone. IMHO, any dog that attacks someone without cause is the fault of it's owners. Some people are just not able to effectively handle aggressive animals.

None of my pits was EVER left in a situation where a child could be hurt, because of their reputation. I had my pits when I was single, and would never dream of owning one with kids in the house.


43 posted on 06/12/2005 10:25:16 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Rennes Templar

Anyone who owns a pit bull knowing what we know about them is a certified idiot. Any parent who would lock a child in the basement instead of the dogs and instead of taking the child with her is a disgraceful excuse for a human being, an idiot, and a criminal. She should do life in prison.


44 posted on 06/12/2005 10:25:44 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: Bonaparte

Oh, I forgot :-)


45 posted on 06/12/2005 10:29:18 PM PDT by MJY1288 ( By Comparison...."Dingy" Harry Reid makes Tom Daschle look like a Statesman)
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To: unbalanced but fair

I have heard people literally state that their dogs are their children. They speak as if the dog is a person and refer to the dog as one of the family. I've had dogs most of my life, and cared for them a great deal, but, they were animals, not humans or substitute children.


46 posted on 06/12/2005 10:30:00 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: I still care
aggression

Any dog that is aggressive has no business being around children. I don't care if it's a chihuahua.

47 posted on 06/12/2005 10:30:18 PM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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To: Rennes Templar

The inmates are running the show. Words escape me.


48 posted on 06/12/2005 10:31:12 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're there that's the best!!)
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To: Atchafalaya

I can't help but think that, if she had left the kid in the house, with the dog, and the kid bludgeoned the dog to death, for no reason, the authorities would be prosecuting her or the kid.


49 posted on 06/12/2005 10:32:37 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: TheOtherOne
As for banning the dogs, I am not in favor of that. Much like guns, or fast cars, or butter . . .

There are two problems with "banning Pit Bulls".

1. How doe you define "Pit Bull" in such a way as to make it stand up in court? Is a dog that is 75% American Bulldog and 25% Bull Terrier a "Pit Bull"? How about 50% Bull Terrier and 50% Labrador Retriever?

2. Any breed of dog can be, under the wrong circumstances, dangerous.

I can see two possible solutions:

First, prosecute people for manslaughter if the family pet kills someone, anyone.

Second, require people who have large dogs in inappropriate settings, like anything over 40 pounds living in an apartment with no fenced back yard, to have liability insurance. Or better yet require the landlord to have the insurance, which would probably eliminate the apartment Pit Bull entirely.

50 posted on 06/12/2005 10:33:59 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (San Francisco - See It Before God Smites It.)
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To: Williams

Pit Bulls are not unique. There are a whole bunch of breeds that were bred as protection. Any one of them can attack over such things. Many of these kinds of dogs were originally used for herd protection.

Here take a look at these. Check out the temperament area.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/caucasianowtcharka.htm

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/caucasianowtcharka.htm

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/alanoespanol.htm


51 posted on 06/12/2005 10:35:33 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Rennes Templar

Nothing to see here folks, just a post-partum abortion. Move along.


52 posted on 06/12/2005 10:35:52 PM PDT by Old_Mil
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To: Paul Atreides
I've had dogs most of my life.

I was a breeder and trainer of hunting dogs for years. They were all kept in the kennel. But they were still fun to be with and loved the attention. They were not my children. My children came first. If any of my dogs had harmed my children, I would have had the dog euthanized, even though it was very valuable. But fortunately the only thing my dogs were aggressive towards were grouse and pheasant. LOL!

53 posted on 06/12/2005 10:39:06 PM PDT by unbalanced but fair
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To: I still care

Ohhh, Disneyworld downtown I'm sure. Perhaps after affording all of the "kids paradise" accoutrements she should have spent some of that money on a doggie shrink to mellow out the beast.
AAAAAAAUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!


54 posted on 06/12/2005 10:42:08 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're there that's the best!!)
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To: unbalanced but fair

There are certain breeds that are considered aggressive breeds. Chows, Akitas, certain terriers, etc. They are the protection dogs.
It's a description of breed characteristics, rather than a character description of a particular dog. They were bred to protect your property. A dog with an personally aggressive character does not belong in a private home with children.


55 posted on 06/12/2005 10:42:49 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: I still care
I once heard that Dalmatians weren't a good breed for kids, not because of aggressiveness but because of stubbornness.
56 posted on 06/12/2005 10:46:14 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: You can get more reliable information in a beauty shop, than from the media)
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To: Paul Atreides

My brother is one of those nuts.


57 posted on 06/12/2005 10:48:51 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Williams

I'm sorry, I posted one breed twice. I meant to put in the Akita. My dogs are Akitas mixes.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/akita.htm


58 posted on 06/12/2005 10:50:31 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Paul Atreides

Dalmations can be tough dogs to handle. You always have to keep in mind what a dog was bred for. What many people don't realize is dogs were bred to do jobs. Maybe its job is being a pet, but maybe not. If a dog can't do its job- what it was bred to do - then you can have behavioral problems from the dogs being frustrated.

Dalmations were bred to accompany riders and carriages. They protected the horses and scouted the path. They should be able to do a hundred miles if necessary. Can you imagine the kind of demanding pet this showy, beautiful dog can be?

Lots of parents saw cute little puppies in Disney movies, and had no idea what they were buying.


59 posted on 06/12/2005 11:00:30 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: John Valentine; TheOtherOne; Paul Atreides; dennisw
It's Nicky's time to go,” she said. “When you're born you're destined to go and this was his time.”

Breed of Peace provoked into an uncontrollable rage, hmmm... looks like "it was the will of allah".

60 posted on 06/12/2005 11:01:14 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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