Raising the retirement age is just more of their pyramid scheme -- there were some threads about how when it was originally introduced, the life expectancy was much lower, so they didn't have to pay out much and not for very long, but they were taking in plenty. They want to go back to the same model -- push the age to 100, why don't they, to make sure that 99% of the people will be dead, before qualifying -- that's where they are going with it. SS is by any other name is just another tax, unless they will allow people to have personal accounts, which was proven to be a great success in Chile.
What difference does it make? I'm resigned to having to work the rest of my life anyway.
When they stop giving illegals free hospitalization and every other benefit in the book, when they stop shipping billions of bucks overseas to buy the friendship of other countries, then they can raise the SS age to save money.
They should make it a 50% pension until 68.
People want to get A check, and start receiving support, even if it isn't 100%.
No check until 69 is a good way to put Democrats back in power.
Names...I want names!
And, I want proof that the increase in age for full benefits also applies to the Senate's retirement plan!
Enough is enough.
Oh, come on, you don't buy this bilge do you?
This is more of that "Republicans face chasm of ideology,
Democrats remain united in solidarity with middle class"
hogwash.
Majority
When they add the illegals to the role as they are talking about, the age will jump to at least 72, most likely 76 within 10 years.
Got a link for this story?
Reminds of that movie The Jerk. All I need is this gov't service and that gov't service....and this social security, and that medicare and that medicaid and that welfare and those perscription drugs, and those education dollars, and that money for art, and that money for endangered species, and this money for AIDS and that money for..........on and on endlessly. Other than that, they want freedom. Oh, of course THEY don't want to pay for any of it, but they want the RICH to pay.
" push the age to 100, why don't they, to make sure that 99% of the people will be dead, before qualifying"
That's what FDR intended when he instituted SS, the medical profession should have to fund any shortage for creating the problem!
Yup! Just like I said on another thread a while ago! They havent the grits to do whats right and privatise it so they will do what will have to be done to save the thing.
On that thread I said. They will have to raise the age to 70. Then they will have to cut benefits by half, raise the taxes by at least triple and cut spending by at least half.
Now we all know they are NOT gonna cut spending. So in order to "save" the system and pay off the IOUs coming due in a few years, they will raise ALL taxes (fed income as well as FICA) by at least triple to pay those IOUs and "save" the system. Then make us all work till 69-70-and soon 75 and 80 to help collect gelt they have stolen from the system.
They dont give a rip about us what in the hell are we kidding ourselves for?! They are addicted, and addicted to money. Fine thing, anyone under the age of 55 will have all that money stolen from them and never see one dam red cent.
I resigned myself to the fact that i will never retire - just change what job I do - a long time ago. Republican's attempt to raise the retirement age is not a problem for me. What I object to is their attempt to delay the inevitable by this attempt. Again, I am disappointed in Republicans for not suppoerting President Bush's plan for SS and pushing for privatization accounts.
Keep them working and make sure they die before we have to return any of their money to them. Heck of a scheme.
Geez, I'd like it whenever they give it to me. It's more than I expected.
I still figure they'll find a way to make sure that I don't get back a fraction of what I've paid in.
Of course, if you are able to save and invest enough on your own, you can retire before the official SS retirement age if you have enough income from your investment. There's no rule that you can't retire before the "official" retirement age. You just can't start drawing that government check until then.
what about the rest of us who are on our feet constantly and work extremely hard physically, emotionally and mentally ......
It will be disability for me, that's for sure.....
i think when the dems controlled congress they did raise the retirement age in a tiered fashion.
i think i am suppose to work until 67 as is?
anyone remember or know?
A partial examination of the facts is as dangerous as fabricating your facts. Consider, when the Social Security age was set; the average person was expected to die within a year or two of retirment. Medical science has come an unforseen growth, we can now cure a great many of the diseases that killed the elderly just 20 years ago.
Thus, we are not only living longer; our medical bills as we age have grown at a non-linear rate as well. Now, let's add to this mix of escalating medical costs, a larger percentage of the population reaching retirement age, and the expectation that most of us will reach the century mark.
Somethings gotta give. The population is in DECLINE (there are fewer workers, supporting each retiree). Does the gov't really have any choice?