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Roy Moore's Popularity May Be Problem For GOP
The Boston Globe ^ | June 14, 2005 | Nina Easton

Posted on 06/14/2005 5:22:05 PM PDT by njackson22

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To: little jeremiah
Do you seriously think that if Moore had a position of power that he would prevent Buddhists from meditating and Hindus from worshiping God by their methods?

Since Moore would not allow any monuments next to his 10 commandments that acknowledge Buddhism or Hinduism, one is left to conclude that he would certainly not be friendly to non-Christians.

The ACLU is also dangerous, right alongside Moore. They're bookends of extremism.

61 posted on 06/15/2005 9:19:43 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur

Ah - so that's it. Because he wouldn't allow Buddhist or Hindu monuments, there should be NO monuments to Biblical commandments.

I find that argument less than compelling. I doubt if any Hindus in this country care whether quotes from the Vedas are displayed next to the 10 Commandments. Were there any Hindus among the founding fathers or other original founders of this country and its laws?

No? Then why the fuss?


62 posted on 06/15/2005 9:29:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: little jeremiah
Because he wouldn't allow Buddhist or Hindu monuments, there should be NO monuments to Biblical commandments.

Because Roy Moore himself said that his rock was a monument to Christianity alone, he was ordered to take it down.

Go to the US Supreme Court building if you want to see the 10 commandments prominently displayed, along with the Torah, Hammurabi's code, and several others.

It would be just as wrong to set up a monument to the Koran in a taxpayer funded building.

63 posted on 06/15/2005 9:34:21 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur

You and I will disagree about this forever. I guess your side is that Hammurabi's code, (what about the Rosetta stone), how about Egyption rules of ethics, and what about Norse and Greek codes, and so on, all must be displayed if the 10 Commandments are displayed.

Go ahead and hate Roy Moore. It won't do you any good, and the fight against the 10 Commandments has the leftist, atheist secularists like the ACLU rubbing their hands in glee.


64 posted on 06/15/2005 9:37:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: GatorPaul

I will vote for Roy Moore Alabama's next Governor.


65 posted on 06/15/2005 9:51:20 PM PDT by southland
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To: curiosity

Come on down to Alabama and vote for Roy Moore. I gave him money at a recent meeting and got his attention by saying this is for your presidential campaign. He seemed to like my comment. He definitely is a person of dignity.


66 posted on 06/15/2005 10:00:42 PM PDT by southland
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To: njackson22

Moore Tancredo in 08


67 posted on 06/15/2005 10:08:52 PM PDT by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: COEXERJ145

Please list any concessions the administration has offered the 100 or so Republicans that want a harder line on illegal aliens. One of two would be fine.


68 posted on 06/15/2005 11:01:47 PM PDT by mthom
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To: TomasUSMC

America The Beautiful

by Roy S. Moore

America the Beautiful, or so you used to be.
Land of the Pilgrims' pride; I'm glad they'll never see.
Babies piled in dumpsters, Abortion on demand,
Oh, sweet land of liberty, your house is on the sand.

Our children wander aimlessly poisoned by cocaine,
Choosing to indulge their lusts,
When God has said abstain.
From sea to shining sea, our Nation turns away
From the teaching of God's love
And a need to always pray.

So many worldly preachers tell lies about our Rock,
Saying God is going broke so they can fleece the flock.
We've kept God in our temples,
How callous we have grown.
When earth is but His footstool,
And Heaven is His throne.

We've voted in a government that's rotting at the core,
Appointing Godless Judges
Who throw reason out the door,
Too soft to place a killer in a well deserved tomb,
But brave enough to kill a baby
Before he leaves the womb.

You think that God's not angry,
That our land's a moral slum?
How much longer will He wait
Before His judgement comes?
How are we to face our God,
From Whom we cannot hide?
What then is left for us to do,
But stem this evil tide?

If we who are His children, will humbly turn and pray;
Seek His holy face and mend our evil way;
Then God will hear from Heaven
And forgive us of our sins,
He'll heal our sickly land and those who live wthin.

But, America the Beautiful,
If you don't then you will see,
A sad but Holy God withdraw His hand from Thee.


69 posted on 06/16/2005 5:19:18 AM PDT by njackson22
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To: Nowhere Man
Neither Moore nor Tancredo would be able to win the GOP nomination due to intense opposition from the Republican Party establishment, nor would they be able to win the Presidency as a third party candidate. No third party candidate has won a Presidential election since Lincoln accomplished that feat in 1860. He only did so because the Whig Party had collapsed and the Democrats essentially fielded three candidates (Douglas, Breckenridge, and Bell). Since then, only a few third party candidates, such as George Wallace in 1968 and Perot in 1992 and 1996, have even received 10% of the popular vote. It is hard to imagine Tancredo or Moore receiving more than the levels Wallace or Perot achieved.

However, the threat of a Moore or Tancredo third party run will force the Republicans to move more towards the right in the general election. The threat of George Wallace impelled Richard Nixon to choose Spiro Agnew as Vice President instead of George Romney or Nelson Rockefeller. A strong third party run, especially by Roy Moore, who could carry several Deep South states in a three way race as Wallace did 40 years earlier, would essentially kill any plans to run Rudolph Giuliani or John McCain as either President or Vice President. The GOP could not run anyone to the left of President Bush as President or even Vice President.

The threat of a populist or Christian Right conservative third party will deter the GOP's abandonment of conservatism.

70 posted on 06/16/2005 5:41:58 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: GatorPaul
Judge Moore just highlighted a problem that was festering and exposed once again just how out of control the Federal Judiciary really is

You betcha, and by standing up for the Constitution and religious freedom he paid a heavy price for it.

Roy Moore is a principled patriot in a nation full of unprincipled politicians. He has my vote for whatever office he wants to run for - if I can vote for him.

71 posted on 06/16/2005 6:38:45 AM PDT by Gritty ("Christianity is an invention of sick brains." - Adolf Hitler)
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To: njackson22

what is his stand on DEPORTING illegal aliens?

This next election, I am voting for only the candidate in favor of DEPORTING illegal aliens.


72 posted on 06/16/2005 6:40:30 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: sinkspur
When "society" votes to do so, there's nothing wrong with it.

Actually, when a majority of teachers and students decide to say Christian prayers at football games over the PA system, that's a perfect example of it. And it used to happen all the time until the ACLU started having hissy fits.

And it wasn't Alabamans who objected to Moore's monument. It was outsiders from the ACLU.

Not that I condone Moore defying court orders. That was wrong, if not sinful.

But to see a Catholic deacon objecting to public displays of the 10 commandments, that's truly sad.

73 posted on 06/16/2005 5:16:19 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: njackson22

There it is!


75 posted on 06/16/2005 5:18:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: marty60
Being disliked by the Boston Globe has really got to hurt a guy's election chances in Alabama.
76 posted on 06/16/2005 5:18:29 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: curiosity
But to see a Catholic deacon objecting to public displays of the 10 commandments, that's truly sad.

Maybe it was the fact that Moore's rock contained the Protestant version of the 10 Commandments, thus placing them in a position above Catholics and Jews that he objected to?

77 posted on 06/16/2005 5:22:17 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: curiosity
I don't object to the public display of the 10 commandments.

What I object to is the 10 commandments being displayed as a religious object, which is what Roy Moore himself said he was doing.

Tolerating that would allow a Muslim chief justice to set up a Koran in the court building and call it a religious display.

Go to the US Supreme Court building to see how the 10 commandments can be displayed prominently, along with other sources of US law.

In addition, Moore knew that his rock would be ordered out when he set it up. He did this as a political stunt.

Many of us predicted that he would use this shameless act as a springboard to a gubernatorial run.

Like clockwork, that is exactly what he's doing.

78 posted on 06/16/2005 5:24:47 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: little jeremiah

Why don't you knock off the personal attacks?


79 posted on 06/16/2005 5:28:42 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: little jeremiah


Yes he is. In addition, it has nothing to do with Judge Roy Moore.


80 posted on 06/16/2005 5:29:13 PM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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