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Roy Moore's Popularity May Be Problem For GOP
The Boston Globe ^ | June 14, 2005 | Nina Easton

Posted on 06/14/2005 5:22:05 PM PDT by njackson22

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To: little jeremiah
Aren't you Buddhist?

You don't like what I say, perhaps you'll listen to what Roy Moore himself says:

Facing a lawsuit to force him to remove a two-ton Ten Commandments monument from the building that houses the Alabama Supreme Court, Moore took the stand in a federal courthouse in Montgomery in mid October to make his case. During testimony, he put forth his view that God is sovereign over both church and state and that the Decalogue display was merely intended to acknowledge that.

U.S. District Judge Myron H. Thomp­son didn't seem persuaded. From the bench he asked Moore, "Would you acknowledge that Buddhism is a religion?"

Moore replied, "Buddhism was considered a false religion by the forefathers. It is not my definition of religion, no. It was not their definition of religion under the First Amendment of the Constitution."

"I wasn't really asking that," Thomp­son said. "I was just asking whether religion within the confines of the First Amendment as you view it historically [if] the term 'religion' includes Buddhists, the Islamic faith, the Hindus?"

Moore refused to budge.

"I don't think so, sir, that Buddhists and other faiths and I won't speak to all faiths because I'm not a theologian recognize the Creator, God," he replied. "Some might, but if they do, it's not the God of the Holy Scriptures. And that's why the Bible is used for the very foundation upon which we take our oaths."

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41 posted on 06/15/2005 6:47:48 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur

Not a Buddhist.


42 posted on 06/15/2005 6:52:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: little jeremiah
Any comment on what Moore said about Buddhists?

Surely you don't agree with him!

43 posted on 06/15/2005 6:53:39 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: Dog Gone
The ACLU and liberals never follow the law and they are advancing their cause all the time.

If we continue playing by THEIR rules and following THEIR laws we will never win.

Roy Moore served us well by gaining attention and stirring people up to realize how the Left is threatening our culture, and country.

44 posted on 06/15/2005 7:21:57 PM PDT by Evolution (Tolerance!? We don't need no stinking Tolerance ! ! !)
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To: sinkspur

Buddhism is a philosophy not a religion.


45 posted on 06/15/2005 7:23:19 PM PDT by Evolution (Tolerance!? We don't need no stinking Tolerance ! ! !)
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To: njackson22

I love the guy


46 posted on 06/15/2005 7:26:24 PM PDT by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: Evolution
According to Merriam-Webster, Buddhism is a religion:

a religion of eastern and central Asia growing out of the teaching of Gautama Buddha that suffering is inherent in life and that one can be liberated from it by mental and moral self-purification

Everyone seems to know that Buddhism is a religion, except you.

47 posted on 06/15/2005 7:36:54 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: COEXERJ145
other is Tom Tancredo. Both are so in love with themselves that they'd screw over the entire nation simply to promote themselves.

Tancredo? LOL! you're living in some bazarro world. Get back on the meds.

48 posted on 06/15/2005 7:41:02 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Guess you haven't been paying attention to Tancredo and his backstabbing of Tom Delay or else you're one of the Tancredoites who thinks he is a god among us.

Tancredo cares about himself and nothing else. He is playing all his worshipers for money and attention while being the biggest obstructionist when it comes to any type of immigration reform.

49 posted on 06/15/2005 7:44:24 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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To: GatorPaul
He has just enough cronies behind him to ensure that the only legislation that would pass the house would be the kind supported by the Democrats and RINOs. Anything supported by conservatives won't have enough votes if Tancredo tells his cronies not to vote for it. Unless the bill has his name on it, he will do his best to kill it.

Tancredo is no different than McCain. Out for only himself and damn anyone and anything in his way.

51 posted on 06/15/2005 7:51:19 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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To: sinkspur
Buddhism as a whole is a philosophy rather than a religion

Not everyone agrees with you, some people use logic and can think for themselves to realize Buddhism is not a religion.

52 posted on 06/15/2005 7:59:35 PM PDT by Evolution (Tolerance!? We don't need no stinking Tolerance ! ! !)
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To: Evolution
That's odd, because, from the same source, Buddhism is also a religion.

You realize that Wikipedia is maintained by readers, so its reliability as a resource is suspect.

53 posted on 06/15/2005 8:05:20 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: njackson22
Roy Moore for Governor of Alabama, then President. He'd have my vote.

Well being here in Pennsylvania, I can't vote for him to be Governor of Alabama (although if I lived there or he came here, he'd get my vote). For President, absolutely, he'd have my vote too.
54 posted on 06/15/2005 8:11:16 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: sinkspur
Buddhism can be considered both a religion or just a philosophy.

You want to consider it a religion go ahead, but I will continue to view it as a philosophy.

55 posted on 06/15/2005 8:20:19 PM PDT by Evolution (Tolerance!? We don't need no stinking Tolerance ! ! !)
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To: sinkspur

I've got to dredge up some comments I made on those threads. Actually, the 10 Commandments can be understood in a very universal manner.

And even Buddhists don't claim it's a religion. How can something be a religion when they say God doesn't exist and the soul doesn't exist?

What I don't understand is why you claim you're a deacon in the Catholic Church when you aren't one.


56 posted on 06/15/2005 8:58:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: little jeremiah

Buddhism is a religion, according to the dictionary. And Buddhism is afforded the same protections as other religions in the United States, even though Roy Moore doesn't think it should.


57 posted on 06/15/2005 9:03:28 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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To: sinkspur
Moore is scary, but he appeals to hard-right evangelicals and fundamentalists, and those who want to make sure only Christian prayers are said at Friday night high school football games.

What is wrong with a society aknowledging the kingship of Christ?

58 posted on 06/15/2005 9:07:32 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: sinkspur

I didn't see that Moore said Buddhists shouldn't have protection. He seems to be saying that Buddhism isn't a religion because they don't recognize that God exists. He is also saying that, for instance, Hinduism was not the religion upon which this country was founded, which is nothing but the truth.

Do you seriously think that if Moore had a position of power that he would prevent Buddhists from meditating and Hindus from worshiping God by their methods?

I don't think that is true.

For some mysterious reason, you think Moore is a dangerous man. Wouldn't it be advantageous to have the same concern about the ACLU, which hates all religions, except possibly Islam?


59 posted on 06/15/2005 9:14:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: curiosity
What is wrong with a society aknowledging the kingship of Christ?

When "society" votes to do so, there's nothing wrong with it.

That hasn't happened, and likely won't.

It's not up to Roy Moore to force anybody to conform to his view of Christianity.

60 posted on 06/15/2005 9:16:53 PM PDT by sinkspur (If you want unconditional love with skin, and hair and a warm nose, get a shelter dog.)
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