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Porn Generation: How Social Liberalism is Corrupting Our Future;(Ben Shapiro's startling new book)
TOWNHALL.COM ^ | JUNE 15, 2005 | Maribeth Armitage

Posted on 06/15/2005 6:43:04 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: durasell

There's a huge meth problem around here. So because there are a lot of meth customers, that makes it okay?

Just because people buy porn and keep the shop open, it's okay, even if the majority of local citizenry don't want it there?

What's your point?


101 posted on 06/16/2005 1:06:45 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: little jeremiah
Ever seen any footage of "Gay Pride" parades, or been there in person?

People should lobby local government to enforce the laws as written.

102 posted on 06/16/2005 1:07:38 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: steve-b

I agree that if the gov't drastically reduced spending - 50% would be a good start - many problems would wither up and die.

But I don't see that happening, so both fronts need to be fought.


103 posted on 06/16/2005 1:08:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: little jeremiah

The definitions of "family" are shifting because of societal pressures. In a few years, the nuclear family, which many believe to be the norm, will become more and more rare. It may prove to be an economically unsustainable model for a lot of people. More than likely a large portion of nuclear families will be replaced by the multi-generational extended families.

The extended family is actually a more efficient use of resources in regards to child care and other expenses etc.

And yes, unwed mothers are a problem. But again, this has to do with economics. It's a phenom that thrives when people have very limited time horizons. And time horizons tend to be influenced by economics.


104 posted on 06/16/2005 1:18:41 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Modernman

Yeah, right. Example - Philadelphia, every year, gives $20,000 to "gay" organizations for their "gay" pride parade.

You know that's a useless argument.


105 posted on 06/16/2005 1:22:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it.)
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To: little jeremiah
Yeah, right. Example - Philadelphia, every year, gives $20,000 to "gay" organizations for their "gay" pride parade.

That would lead me to conclude that the people of Phillie are okay with their gay pride parades.

106 posted on 06/16/2005 1:24:08 PM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: little jeremiah

My belief is that drugs are a plague -- but the absolute worst of all the drugs is meth. I believe this not only because of the way that the drug impacts individuals' bodies, but because it targets those communities that can least afford the human, financial or emotional toll. I've made something of a study of meth. So, trust me on this point -- having lived through the crack days of NYC in the 1990s and comparing it to meth -- well, there is no comparison. Crack is like applesauce compared to meth. Luckily it hasn't really hit NYC yet, but it will.

You named two destructive influences in a small community. One legal and one illegal. A big city, like NY, can absorb both and keep functioning. A small town can't. It's up to the will of the population to fight back.


107 posted on 06/16/2005 1:27:02 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Modernman

It would lead me to believe that the local gov't there is replete with leftists, those who support homosexuality, and homosexuals themselves. Whether the actual voters themselves agree or not is unknown.


108 posted on 06/16/2005 1:30:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: durasell

So in your world view, single mothers having babies with a series of men they aren't married to is called "extended families". Well, that's a novel definition of the phrase.

"Extended families" really means not only the mother and father and their children, but some grandparents, and maybe some aunts and uncles and cousins as well.

So, it's clear that you place zero importance on traditional marriage and family - IOW, "real" - marraige and intact families. It's good to know your viewpoint.

As far as local communities fighting porn shops, they tried already here, and lost. Think my town of 1200 plus wants to fight the ACLU?


109 posted on 06/16/2005 1:34:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

No, we share the same definition of extended families.


110 posted on 06/16/2005 1:36:03 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

Not by what your previous comment said.

Anyway, my other life is intervening. Gotta run.


111 posted on 06/16/2005 1:38:30 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

My other comment spoke to the changing shapes and make-ups of families -- the nuclear family being replaced, at least in part, by the extended family. This is due largely to outside pressures. It's a solution to several problems, not the least of which are economic. I implied, but didn't outright state, that unwed mothers are what happens when solutions to those pressures aren't instituted.


112 posted on 06/16/2005 1:41:36 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That just about sums it up, well put!


113 posted on 06/16/2005 1:51:24 PM PDT by JZelle
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To: NYC GOP Chick

Always!


114 posted on 06/16/2005 7:29:17 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: ClaireSolt

now lets talk about C. Heston and R. Reagan


115 posted on 06/16/2005 8:23:29 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (i)
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To: Turbopilot
In general I like Ben Shapiro, but he's much better when he's fighting for our country than fighting for (what he believes is) our culture. Culture, by its very definition, changes with each successive generation, while the nature of a nation is fundamentally rooted in its founding principles. In other words, if America's government could fully deal with Islamist terrorism, illegal immigration, and the gross overreach of the federal government, some sleazy singers wouldn't be a big problem. Conversely, ending sleaze and various forms of "immorality" would not do a thing to help terrorism, illegal immigration, or any other of the serious issues with which our government needs to concern itself.

I like your comments.

116 posted on 06/16/2005 8:24:48 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Flightdeck

Actually, it only takes one to wreck a marriage.

The trick to having the golden touch, is to be darned careful what you touch. Congratulations to those who chose wisely.

As for me, never again.

If your girlfriend askes you to get married, you say "Well, you better find a man who wants to get married."

Guaranteed, in about 20 minutes you will have some good things going on.


117 posted on 06/16/2005 8:31:06 PM PDT by Donald Meaker (i)
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To: little jeremiah
why do people vociferously support pornography? They must either want it easily available for themselves, or applaud the destruction of morality for some other reason.

Depends what you mean by "vociferously support." I vociferously support the regulated legality of pornography, although I don't consider myself a supporter of pornography, not because I want it or because I applaud the destruction of morality, but because using force to combat non-rights-violating vices is wrong.

118 posted on 06/17/2005 1:51:57 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Turbopilot

"ending sleaze and various forms of "immorality" would not do a thing to help terrorism, illegal immigration, or any other of the serious issues"

You just don't get it. They are all interlinked. A society in decay will never be able to deal with any of the problems you've mentioned.


119 posted on 06/20/2005 6:50:51 PM PDT by Betaille
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