'Freedom fries' politician calls for Iraq pullout

stuff.co.nz ^ | 17 June 2005

[Destro]

"This message would say to the terrorists: 'All you have to do is wait until that day when our troops leave and then you can start carrying out those attacks and just hold out.'" he said.

May I play Devil's Advocate? Why would it say that? Why would it not say to the terrorists - "We trust freed Iraqis to fight for their future freedom and to help us in the war on terror as we helped liberate them"?

I think currently the Iraqi military outside of the excellent Kurdish peshmergas - best light infantry in the region (who sadly are not used for political reasons) are not ready to fight. But when will they be ready is a good question to ask, no?

Lastly, are we in Iraq for good? I don't mean in terms of occupation but is it a policy that our leaders want to keep permanent bases in Iraq but don't want to admit it openly (just yet)?

[Mad Dawgg]

"Lastly, are we in Iraq for good? I don't mean in terms of occupation but is it a policy that our leaders want to keep permanent bases in Iraq but don't want to admit it openly (just yet)?"

My Prediciton is eventually there will an American Militaary base over there so big you will be able to see it from space with the naked eye!

[PetroniusMaximus]

Must have been "waffle" fries!

[Mo1]

The resolution, also backed by Hawaii Democratic representative Neil Abercrombie, calls for the Bush administration to develop a plan by the end of this year to pull out all American troops from Iraq and to begin the withdrawal by October 1, 2006.

I can't believe they are that bleeping stupid

[kcvl]

I can.

[Mo1]

I HATE STUPID PEOPLE!!

/ rant >

[hsalaw]

"I can't believe they are that bleeping stupid"

Believe it.

[Mo1]

Believe it

I know .. I suppose I'm trying to hope they aren't that stupid and maybe .. just maybe they learned something from History

The last time we pulled out of a war early .. over 2 million people were murdered

[Mo1]

Lastly, are we in Iraq for good? I don't mean in terms of occupation but is it a policy that our leaders want to keep permanent bases in Iraq but don't want to admit it openly (just yet)?

I don't know about for good

But here's a hint .. we didn't leave Europe

[RWR8189]

Jones got 71% of the vote in 2004, so I can assume this is a pretty safe district, so I should hope this guy gets primaried next time around.

[Destro]

Good point. So we are never leaving I guess and the politicos won't tell it to our face - they wink at us and treat us like childern. I feel sorry for future soldiers deployed to Iraq when it is pacified if ever - at least in Europe and Japan there is some off base RR that soldiers can enjoy. Where can a GI go for beer in Iraq?

[Destro]

Or maybe he is a good politician and knows what his district wants? Or maybe he is has convictions and does what we say we want politicians to do - lead and take a stand and not follow?

[RWR8189]

Maybe that's true, but it hasn't been my experience that the words "good" and "politician" fit well together in the same sentence.

[jess35]

I'm beginning to think that is exactly what they want.

[Destro]

Well I question the wisdom of any man that thinks changing "french fries" to "freedom fries" sends a signal to France (they are actually Belgian in origin - if that means anything). It was actually a disgraceful display of demagoguery that reminded me of stories of how German Americans were treated during WW1 when we changed food names from their German origins (how hotdogs got their new non German name).

[ambrose]

We're still in Germany and Japan, aren't we?

[ncountylee]

Clinton promised "troops Home by Christmas" many years ago.

[ambrose]

Jones ran for Congress as a Democrat. After he lost, he switched parties, and won as a Republican. He's a lick your fingers and stick them up to the wind kind of politician.. but he's certainly an indicator of which way the wind is currently blowing..

[angkor]

Do we want to be there for 20 years or 30 years?" he said.

Want to or not, we will.

[angkor]

So we are never leaving I guess and the politicos won't tell it to our face - they wink at us and treat us like childern.

Who else is going to protect our property - that is, the petroleum - against the 15th century savages of the Middle East?

American politicians and the average American citizen both live in a comical circle of unreality.

It's our oil, and we'll be here for the next 30 years, minimum.

I'm not joking.