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Fleeing a tornado may be safer than hiding from it
Ann Arbor News ^ | 6-17-05 | Bruce Seeman

Posted on 06/17/2005 7:33:53 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan

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1 posted on 06/17/2005 7:33:53 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan

This article is a bit misleading. Yes, it's foolish to "cower at home" (as they put it) if your home is a trailer OR if you have no storm cellar. Personally, I think it should be the law that every private home must come with one of those--and every aprtment building should have one for the tenants too. I doubt that it will happen.

We have a storm cellar, and I wouldn't live in Oklahoma without one. We know some people who scoff at having one, and joke about them being for "scaredy-cats" only. I just think to myself, well, happy scoffing, idiot.


2 posted on 06/17/2005 7:39:56 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
confirms that people caught in mobile homes face the worst odds.

Gee, ya think?

3 posted on 06/17/2005 7:42:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Flush Newsweek!)
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To: Dan from Michigan; All

Interesting article, Dan.

I wonder what I'd do if put in that position?

Part of me thinks I'd flee if time permitted and if I knew the tornado was bad enough.

The other part of me thinks I'd crawl into the basement (if I were at home) and try to ride it out.

Fellow Freepers, some of you have been in a tornado before. What do you do?

For those of you who haven't, what do you think you'd do? Hide or flee?

Opinions anyone?


4 posted on 06/17/2005 7:42:07 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Dan from Michigan

the "panic" factor mentioned is important. if everyone was trying to flee the numbers may have been different. the ones that fled were able to because not everyone else was.


5 posted on 06/17/2005 7:42:28 AM PDT by kpp_kpp
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To: MizSterious
I agree, homes and apartments built in areas where tornadoes are common should be required to provide a tornado shelter.
6 posted on 06/17/2005 7:45:03 AM PDT by PreviouslyA-Lurker (...where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I did a safety briefing at my workplace concerning tornadoes and the way to survive. Get out of you car and seek the safety of a storm cellar. Lie prone in a ditch. In a home find an interior space, cover yourself with a mattress and PRAY. The NOAA we site has other recommendations.

In 2001 a tornado struck Fort Worth. It devestated downtown and one victim who was east of downtown was struck and killed by a basketball sized hail stone that was driven through his windshield. A couple pulled into a parking garage and was within 100 yards of the twister but they were saved by the parking garage's structure which absorbed the wind. The testified that it was quite a show.

7 posted on 06/17/2005 7:45:10 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: MplsSteve

Storm cellar is safer than being caught on foot or in a car. Also, tornado paths are not always that predictable. You'd better know for sure you're moving away from it and not into its path.


8 posted on 06/17/2005 7:46:20 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I have been through many, actually I was nearly right in the middle of this one in the article. I felt much safer being totally out of the path instead of cowering right in its path. During one last year, we cowered in a closet before deciding to flee at the last minute. Fortunately it missed our neighborhood.


9 posted on 06/17/2005 7:49:21 AM PDT by CharlieOK1 (See http://www.alisrael.com/tamuz/ for what should happen to Iran)
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To: MplsSteve
see my post further down.

When I was a kid, my dad would stand outside watching it until my mother practically dragged him down to the storm shelter

10 posted on 06/17/2005 7:50:38 AM PDT by CharlieOK1 (See http://www.alisrael.com/tamuz/ for what should happen to Iran)
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To: MplsSteve

I personally have never even seen a tornado. If one were to come for me I'd hide. Having said that, when your time is up, it's up. It doesn't make any difference how you decided to deal with a tornado.


11 posted on 06/17/2005 7:52:59 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Young Werther

alot of people in the plains dont have storm shelters....or basements...the best thing is not to panic and get in a car and drive away...pay attention to the sky and get a spotter network radio..this will give you size and location of the tornado..if its heading towards you,,flee...the same thing happened in the jarrel texas tornado..those who stayed died....those that got the heck out of its way lived......sometimes we sheeple do whatever the so called experts tell us and just take their word for it...remember when they used to tell us to open the windows too?


12 posted on 06/17/2005 7:53:28 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: CharlieOK1
When I was a kid, my dad would stand outside watching it

LOL. I've done that and looked for it. Never saw one although I've had a few near misses.

13 posted on 06/17/2005 7:55:01 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Defeat Stabenow in 06!!!!)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

oh please more government regulation..just what we need...if i don't want to storm shelter i shouldn't be forced to have one


14 posted on 06/17/2005 7:56:55 AM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: Dan from Michigan

i grew up with tornadoes. we always went to the potato cellar, underground.

the large devastation of oklahoma a few years back revealed new homes on concrete pads with no under ground or secured safety areas.


15 posted on 06/17/2005 7:57:15 AM PDT by ken21
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To: MplsSteve

I was at work one day a few years back (at a small airport), when one of my coworkers told me to come outside and look. There was a large rotating wall cloud, maybe 2 miles away to our northwest, moving slowly east. Soon we saw rotating debris above the trees, and soon after that there was a visible funnel. As we watched it grew to a 3/4-mile-wide F3-F4 tornado, a mile away at its closest. We just stood and watched (although there were basement steps only about 30 feet away). It was fascinating.


16 posted on 06/17/2005 7:57:17 AM PDT by xjcsa (She died of loneliness...loneliness and rabies...)
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To: MizSterious
This article is a bit misleading.

I think it really depends on the nature of the tornado. In this case, you had an F5, which could completely destroy well-built homes. And it was moving slowly, which meant you had a good chance of outrunning it in a car.

Now, compare that to a fast-moving F2. Stay in your home in a closet and maybe your roof gets taken out and windows are broken, but the structural integrity of the closet stays OK. But get in a car and the tornado runs you down because the road got blocked by a fallen tree, and an F2 is more than capable of lifting your car up and flinging it and you a good distance.

I don't think this tornado is a good way to compare the normal risk of fleeing to staying put, because it was such an abnormal tornado - you don't get too many that almost create a new niche for themselves, that of an F6 (it was one mph below the expected max thresshold for an F5).

17 posted on 06/17/2005 7:58:14 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: MplsSteve
We have an underground fruit cellar attached to our basement, stocked with water, batteries, a radio, flashlights, etc. just in case a tornado hits. Living in Wisconsin, there have been a few huge tornados quite close to where we live, we're prepared at home. If I was driving, I'd head in a different direction of the tornado's path. Generally, tornados stay on a 'course', generally.

The Oakfield, Wisconsin Case Study

Oakfield, Wisconsin F5 Tornado - cool photos

18 posted on 06/17/2005 7:58:39 AM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: ken21
the large devastation of oklahoma a few years back revealed new homes on concrete pads with no under ground or secured safety areas.

A few folks are having a small hardened concrete cell built within their house. That's about the only above-ground shelter that would work in an F5.

19 posted on 06/17/2005 7:59:16 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: janetjanet998

Fine. If you don't want one, don't build one--but such people should also be banned from using their health and property insurance. Folks like you make my insurance rates go up.


20 posted on 06/17/2005 8:00:48 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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