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Protesters on both sides of immigration debate face off in Alhambra
Associated Press ^ | June 19. 2005 | Associated Press.

Posted on 06/19/2005 7:18:23 AM PDT by occutegirl

ALHAMBRA, Calif. Protesters on both sides of the immigration debate faced off peacefully today outside a Home Depot in Alhambra Many undocumented immigrants often wait for work there, and several dozen protesters from the group Save Our State gathered to demonstrate against them.

They were met with a much larger group that opposes policies against illegal immigrants. San Gabriel Neighbors Peace and Justice says the immigrants should be left alone because they are simply seeking honest work.

Save Our State members say they are not against immigrants. Some of them are immigrants themselves. They accused Home Depot support illegal immigrants by allowing undocumented laborers to stand outside their stores.

Home Depot said in a statement it does not support illegal immigration but can't stop workers from standing near its stores.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; daylabor; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; protest
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To: Travis McGee
Under any other circumstance, the abuse these animals showed would have been met with a violent response but I used every bit of restraint I had in me. I have decided I will not side with this level of restraint ever again. The police failed us. I relied upon them to do what was necessary in these situations and they refused to do their jobs. The next time a megaphone is jammed in my ear or someone reaches out to grab me, fists are going to fly - cops or no cops.


Applied to the nuts would get the point across without being as visible to others.

81 posted on 06/20/2005 9:36:36 AM PDT by Petruchio ( ... .--. .- -.-- / .- -. -.. / -. . ..- - . .-. / .. .-.. .-.. . --. .- .-.. / .- .-.. .. . -. ...)
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To: Travis McGee
If the ATF and the ICE swapped agents, every illegal alien in America would be arrested, deported or shot in one month.

Hardly. The BATF feds are EXTREMELY twitchy about going after anyone who might actually fight back. One reason they got their a$$e$ handed to them at Waco was because they expected *that bunch of bible-thumpers* to give up immediately, thence to get the MP5s waved in their faces.

And don't forget that many of the worst BATF goons are themselves of Mexican descent, and often more sympathetic to the invaders than to their contemptable Anglo political leadership.

82 posted on 06/20/2005 10:09:33 AM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Invasion is what armys do.....

Not necessarily.

The Western Roman Empire was invaded by a horde of Germans of various tribal affiliations in December, 405 A.D. The irruption was by organized bands consisting of tribal and clan groups, including entire families.

Quote:

"We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."

--Thomas Borge, Nicaragua Interior Minister as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985
83 posted on 06/20/2005 10:12:15 AM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Travis McGee

All I can say is thank you for your service to our country. This is a damn shame what is happening to our country.


84 posted on 06/20/2005 10:13:15 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male)
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To: Petruchio; Travis McGee
Applied to the nuts would get the point across without being as visible to others.

The *Stun Pen* versions are even more discrete, and just as effective. They fit very nicely in a rolled-up newspaper. And they're priced very reasonably, at $30-$40 apiece.


85 posted on 06/20/2005 10:16:56 AM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: HiJinx

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


86 posted on 06/20/2005 11:12:04 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Travis McGee
[ You need to look up the word invasion in a dozen dictinoaries, as I have done. ]

Ok Ok.. you say invasion I say insurgency... What if..WE ARE BOTH RIGHT...

Bottom line is millions of "Globalists" are being imported..

Added to those already given to "Globalism" and the American Globalists long term plans just got much shorter term.. The Mexicans are not the ONLY nationality to "INVADE" America illegally either..

The PLAN.. to eventially blur national boundaries.. not to obilerate them.. and strengthen world domination by "someone".. "something"... The U.N., maybe.. or even a new unproposed body.. URP is already there.. the ONLY HOLDOUT.?.

AMERICA... The movie "Red Dawn" was a good idea but it is being accomplished through illegal immigration.. Bush and the Pentagon is not stupid.. at least Bush isn't..

This is being done, Travis... ON PURPOSE... China is being built up.. ON PURPOSE.. and the illegal aliens are "INVADING".. ON PURPOSE.. There is a master plan here.. and BUSH himself just might be Americas most infamous TRAITOR.. as was his Daddy..

Only one solution, and you know what that is, as well as I do.. Actually anybody thats NOT a coward knows what the solution is.. Obviously voting does not work.. 2008 will either bring us Hillary or another RINO.. And I refuse to be a pawn in that checker game..

87 posted on 06/20/2005 12:02:17 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: lentulusgracchus
[ Nice stab at taking control of a definition, but usage and history are against you. ]

Nice pencil neck analysis of "somthing"...
And your "solution" to the illegal hoards would be WHAT.?.

Just Spit it out.. no flame here really.. I know, I have an idea.. useing your "expertise"..

Are there an instances of this kind of "invasion"-"whatever".. being thwarted in history that you know about..

By the way you forgot about all the instances of Islamics doing just this to countrys.. i.e. Egypt..

88 posted on 06/20/2005 12:20:05 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: occutegirl

Looks like we have some commies in the pro-illegal demonstration. And (as usual?) they are comparing supporteres of a reasonable immigration policy to Nazis.

The "Klan with a Tan" (MEChA) also apparently made an appearance there.


89 posted on 06/20/2005 2:55:41 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport them all; let Fox sort them out!)
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To: occutegirl
Yep, those are Nazis, all right </SARC>
90 posted on 06/20/2005 2:57:03 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport them all; let Fox sort them out!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
IMHO, the illegals themselves, along with the rest of the world, are laughiing at our foolishness on this issue...and then capitalizing on it.

Our national message has to be, IMHO, that immigrants are welcome, but illegal immigrants will be treated as the criminals they are. A healthy immigration/guest worker (green card) program should be in place that is in keeping with our true nation needs, with the intent that those immigrating and looking to citizenship are assimilated as American citizens with an understanding of our laws, constitution and an ability to speak the language...otherwise, no citizenship. Such a program then needs to be strictly adhered to and enforced (and I believe the enforcement has to come first), with no amnesty or free pass for the ones already here illegally. The borders then need to be firmed up, controlled, and seriously patroled to prevent illegal entry.

As to enforcement and the illegals themselves, IMHO, the answer is (new ones or older ones already here) to deport every one of them, place thier names and fingerprints on a list, and then make sure they know if they are caught illegally back in the country they will go to prison and spend a minimum of five years building those buildings, digging those ditches, harvesting those crops for free...before they again are deported with the message that the next infraction brings on a ten year sentence of the same.

Then, we need to have just as stiff an enforcement on those Americans who knowingly hire the illegals, stiffly fining them to begin with, and building on that depending on the nature and size of the infrction, to where they also serve time in the gray rock motel.

Such a program may be somewhat painful at first...but not nearly as painful as what is coming if we do not get a firm handle and control on this issue.

Just my opinion.

91 posted on 06/20/2005 3:22:44 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: seastay
This home depot has turned our neighborhood into nothing more than a -red light district-, satellite community of Tijuana!

You'd be surpised, there's none of this loitering at the Tijuana Home Depot

92 posted on 06/20/2005 3:24:16 PM PDT by Pa' fuera
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To: mizmoutarde

I'm guessing the one giving the heil hitler salute is a mechanist, but it sure doesn't say so.


93 posted on 06/20/2005 3:25:30 PM PDT by johnb838 (In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.)
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To: seastay

That's why it gets me when people say our military has no business operating on our soil. If they have no business here, they have no business anywhere.

The Monroe Doctrine worked great for over 200 years, but now it is outdated. The enemy is HERE.


94 posted on 06/20/2005 3:28:37 PM PDT by johnb838 (In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.)
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To: occutegirl

Oh yea, it's going to get nasty.

IMHO, the illegals themselves, their abettors (as evidenced by these photos which include marxists), along with the rest of the world, are laughiing at such foolishness...and then capitalizing on it.

Our national message has to be, IMHO, that immigrants are welcome, but illegal immigrants will be treated as the criminals they are. A healthy immigration/guest worker (green card) program should be in place that is in keeping with our true nation needs, with the intent that those immigrating and looking to citizenship are assimilated as American citizens with an understanding of our laws, constitution and an ability to speak the language...otherwise, no citizenship.

Such a program then needs to be strictly adhered to and enforced (with enforcment coming first), with no amnesty or free pass for the ones already here illegally. The borders then need to be firmed up, controlled, and seriously patroled to prevent illegal entry.

As to eforcement and the illegals themselves, IMHO, the answer is (new ones or older ones already here) to deport every one of them, place thier names and fingerprints on a list, and then make sure they know if they are caught illegally back in the country they will go to prison and spend a minimum of five years building those buildings, digging those ditches, harvesting those crops for free...before they again are deported with the message that the next infraction brings on a ten year sentence of the same.

Then, we need to have just as stiff an enforcement on those Americans who knowingly hire the illegals, stiffly fining them to begin with, and building on that depending on the nature and size of the infrction, to where they also serve time in the gray rock motel.

Such a program may be somewhat painful at first...but not nearly as painful as what is coming if we do not get a firm handle and control on this issue.

Just my opinion.

95 posted on 06/20/2005 3:30:11 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: CharlieChan

Great graphic bump.


96 posted on 06/20/2005 3:32:16 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: lentulusgracchus; hosepipe
The point of correctly defining invasion, is that invasions are specifically covered in the Constitution. The term insurgent does not appear.

U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.

2. A warlike or hostile entrance into the possessions or domains of another; the incursion of an army for conquest or plunder. [1913 Webster]

3. The incoming or first attack of anything hurtful or pernicious; as, the invasion of a disease.

97 posted on 06/20/2005 3:34:07 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: CharlieChan

It's going to be Mugabe and Zimbabwe if they get their way... and then Katie bar the door.

Is THAT what this country needs to see to see what is going on?


98 posted on 06/20/2005 3:39:19 PM PDT by johnb838 (In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.)
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To: Jeff Head

Sounds like a plan. I'm against all the profligate spending of this government, but I'd be willing to open my wallet to help put this plan into action.


99 posted on 06/20/2005 3:47:02 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport them all; let Fox sort them out!)
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To: archy

Wasn't one of the problems with the Hun that the Romans gave them citizenship if they'd fight in the army so the Hun just moved on in and made themselves at home? Didn't the dilution of Roman Citizenship lead to the "Bread and Circuses" problem and ultimately to the dissolution of the Republic?

I really believe the right guy could come along and get elected Caesar right about now.


100 posted on 06/20/2005 3:51:23 PM PDT by johnb838 (In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Amen.)
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