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Republicans again seeking to split 9th Circuit (PLEASE DO!)
Arizona Daily Star ^ | June 19, 2005 | unattributed

Posted on 06/19/2005 8:18:57 AM PDT by SandRat

LOS ANGELES - Congressional Republicans are hoping yet again to split the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which covers nine Western states and has issued some rulings to the dismay of conservatives.

The Republicans say a breakup is the best way to reduce the circuit's caseload.

Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., plans this week to introduce a bill to split the circuit into three parts. Rep. Mike Simpson, R-Idaho, has already introduced legislation this year that would create at least one, if not two, new appellate courts for the area, which includes Arizona.

"The situation is continuing to get worse for the 9th Circuit," Ensign said in a telephone interview on Thursday. "It has by far the most cases per jurist, and it's just too large and too unwieldy."

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., who has opposed efforts to split the circuit, said the real issue is the number of judges handling cases. "If there is a way to reduce the caseload of the 9th Circuit's judges in a fair and honest manner," she said in a statement, "I am open to considerations."

The idea of splitting the 9th Circuit is hardly new; efforts date back decades. But it packs greater significance following recent criticism from some conservatives of decisions by federal judges.

Democrats who have opposed a split may be cautious about voicing strong opposition after the recent skirmish over judicial filibusters. And with Republican majorities in the Senate and House, which passed a version of the bill last year, supporters say they consider the split inevitable.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; circuit; circus; court; fiendstein; finswine; frankenswine; leftcoast; liberal; republicans
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To: July 4th; SandRat
The 9th Circuit is just the right size for the state s on the West coast. ...of Kalifornia (whose state nickname should be "State of Fruits and Nuts")
21 posted on 06/19/2005 9:23:06 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: skinkinthegrass
Personally I believe that it's just perfect for the City and only the city of Sin FreakSicko
22 posted on 06/19/2005 9:27:42 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
"..let the frolicking and debauch begin.." :P
23 posted on 06/19/2005 9:31:53 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: SandRat

The 9th Circuit is disproportionate in its size. All the other circuits have about 12 judges, whereas the 9th circuit has about twice that many. It should be split.

A Commission during the 1990s said that the 9th Circuit shuld be split into two divisions, but maintained as a Circuit, with some "floating" judges between the two divisions to assure uniformity. This is a wacky idea compared to simply splitting the 9th Circuit. The Commission's idea would have essentially created another, mezzanine level of appeals within one of the Circuits, and leading to confusion. There is simply no need to go there.

As it is, the 9th Circuit is also the nation's most liberal Circuit and is routinely overturned by the U.S. Supreme Court. This difference will only widen as Bush's nominees for the more-or-less balanced Circuits, e.g., the 11th, are confirmed, making all the Circuits, except the for 9th, conservative Circuits.

The only problem I see with splitting the 9th Circuit is the "blue card" of the Democratic Senators from California. They, for example, blue carded Christopher Cox when he was nominated to the 9th Circuit (Bush subsequently nominated him for the SEC).

The extension of Republican hegemony to the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals within which is California is going to require some imagination. Perhaps we can leave California to be a one state Circuit, and fill it with recess-appointed judges (until a Democrat is elected President and they elect at least 50 Senators).


24 posted on 06/19/2005 9:41:31 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: SandRat; Dog Gone
The Ninth Circuit should be split, but Idaho and Montana could also be rolled into the Tenth as they are demographically very similar to the rest of that Circuit and both have relatively low populations.
25 posted on 06/19/2005 10:02:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: Siobhan

Perhaps, I have no knowledge of Judge Jones. I'll have one of our clerks pull some of her opinions Monday.


26 posted on 06/19/2005 10:08:36 AM PDT by middie
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To: Redmen4ever

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The 9th's Judge STEPHEN REINHARDT =

-Leader of the Pack
-Friend of the CLINTONS
-No "UNDER GOD" Pledge of Allegence in Schools


The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.

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27 posted on 06/19/2005 10:36:54 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: SandRat
"which covers nine Western states and has issued some rulings to the dismay of conservatives rational people."
28 posted on 06/19/2005 11:45:20 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: deport

thanks for that pic. I've been curious about that for some time.


29 posted on 06/19/2005 12:15:02 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/canadahealthcare.htm)
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To: middie
Sounds like you got zeroed in the 5th circuit a time or two. xin loi. Go find more ambulances to chase. Maybe Edwards needs another associate, cry on his cotillion.
32 posted on 06/19/2005 2:37:24 PM PDT by gatorbait
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To: libs_kma

rational is a correct term that doe not apply to the 9th.


33 posted on 06/19/2005 3:08:37 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: gatorbait
An irrational attack on the messenger indicates a dearth of logic or facts on the part of the aggressor. The fact is that in the three appeals I've briefed and argued before the 5th in the past 18 months my client has prevailed. Outcomes and the distinctive orientation of the court and their strict ideological bent have no relation to my personal results. Most competent, scholarly lawyers can distinguish between their personal effectiveness and the overarching lack of a given court of the collective ability or willingness to set aside that ideology and decide cases solely on the applicable law.

Oh, in addition, I haven't handled a personal injury case since I was an intern in a pro bono publico clinic as a third-year student. Your knee-jerk animosity is not worthy of a response.

34 posted on 06/19/2005 3:49:33 PM PDT by middie
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To: SandRat
Remember for Sen FineSwine keeping the 9th Intact gives her power through them to affect more states than any other Sen by making sure that LEFT LEANING JUDGES who think left like her get on the court.

Moreover, the 9th Circuit is the official Court of Enviro-wacko Causes. Splitting the circuit would mean that Californians will still get the rulings they want, while the other states in the Circuit can be returned to judicial sanity.

35 posted on 06/19/2005 3:57:01 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01
Enviro-wacko Causes = Watermelon's: Green on the outside and Red on the inside.
36 posted on 06/19/2005 4:07:06 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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