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The anti SUV portal ^

Posted on 6/19/2005, 4:59:45 PM by Veloxherc

"SUVs spew out 43 percent more global-warming pollutants - 28 pounds of carbon dioxide per gallon of gas consumed..."


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"28 pounds of carbon dioxide per gallon"

Ok I have seen this figure elsewhere. I think it is bogus. A gallon of gas only weighs 6 pounds so how in the he!! could it produce 28 pounds of carbon dioxide? It sounds completely against the laws of physics.

Or in a tree hugger’s world, does the 28 pounds of CO only come out of SUV's?

1 posted on 6/19/2005, 4:59:46 PM by Veloxherc
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To: Veloxherc

I don't know, I used to have a 8 pound cat that produced 15 pounds of crap and 12 pounds of hair a week.


2 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:02:10 PM by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: Veloxherc

Tree huggers should love SUVs, they are pushing out 28 lbs of plant food per gallon of gas.(If those figures are true)


3 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:02:11 PM by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: Veloxherc

www.fueleconomy.gov has pollution stats on cars and SUVs.


4 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:04:46 PM by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Your cat:


ROFLMAO!

I think I have your cat's brother.


5 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:05:05 PM by tiamat ("I live in my own little world. But it's okay. They know me here.")
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To: Veloxherc

Gosh I wonder how much comes out of private jets of movie stars,or yachts of the rich and famous,or Kerrys SUV,oh thats right it isnt his its the family's.sorry.


6 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:05:13 PM by bikerman
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To: Veloxherc

A gallon of fuel weighs in under 8 lbs. How they can get 28 lbs of exhaust out of that is beyond me.


7 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:07:26 PM by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

A pound of fuel weighs about 8 pounds, but it is mixed with a whole lot of air. Most of the oxygen is burned in the combustion chamber but not all.

SUVs don't burn any dirtier than Yugos, probably much cleaner.


8 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:12:52 PM by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Veloxherc
According to the site:
"If you want sporty, get a sports car. If you want utility, get a truck. If you just want a vehicle, get a car."

So, I'm wondering. Sometimes my job requires that I go off road with a substantial amount of gear that needs to be secured, rather than exposed in a truck bed. Sometimes my job requires hauling farm feed and gear. Sometimes I just need to get from here to there on the road or with my wife and child.

So does this genius think I should have a pickup, a van, and a touring car? And how much energy was spent and how many pollutants emitted in the making of three vehicles compared what is spent and emitted making one SUV?

Just asking ....

9 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:19:50 PM by Mad Dawg (Allahu Fubar! (with apologies to Sheik Yerbouty))
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To: Smokin' Joe

Because it chemically reacts with the oxygen?


10 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:19:54 PM by MarkeyD (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com">Loser</a>)
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To: Veloxherc

Based on the atomic weight of carbon (6) and oxygen (8), even if gasoline were pure carbon, a gallon (which weighs 6.25 pounds) combined with air to form CO2 would produce about 23 pounds by my calculation. So they're off by about 20%.


11 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:20:07 PM by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: Veloxherc
"SUVs spew out 43 percent more global-warming pollutants "

I think this number is true if you include all the hot air and bullsh-t {methane source} that the left belches out lying about the subject.

12 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:21:54 PM by trek
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To: Veloxherc

It's a mistake, I'd be willing to bet that a typical combustion reaction with gasoline will produce 28 pounds of exhast (I wouldn't be suprised if it's more) if the figures you quote are correct (6lbs of gasoline), if it was pure carbon and assuming we could get the same reaction (C bonding with O2) it would give us 22lbs. based on that if the reaction is compleatly clean (unlikely though) we still have to account for the hydrogen which when burnt off forms another common compound H20. So 28 pounds of C2O is over the top. and I'm willing to bet that a stanard combustion reaction "creates" more than 40lbs of waste vapor (much of that water).

But to find that out would require google and I'm too lazy to either find out the "exact" chemical properties of gasoline, how cleanly it burns, and do the math to figure out exactly how much waste it would create.


13 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:22:10 PM by Brellium
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To: Veloxherc

How can a gallon of gasoline, which weighs approimately 8 1/2 pounds, produce three times as much carbon dioxide? Unless this is magical gasoline that violates the laws of the conservation of matter, not only is the suggestion absurd, it's impossible. I can't believe that even a green weenie is THAT stupid.


14 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:22:11 PM by IronJack
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To: Veloxherc; All

http://www.environmentaldefense.org/article.cfm?contentid=3998

Carbon Dioxide and Money Reduction: Incalculable
- no calculations -
Note: Money savings are calculated on a per year basis using 2002 dollars and do not include initial investment for purchase of product.

IT REFUTES ITSELF


15 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:22:33 PM by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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To: Veloxherc
What we need to gauge is the amount of hot air coming from these tree huggers.
If we eliminate them, we could eliminate the global warming they see.
16 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:22:46 PM by The Brush
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To: bikerman
What you said! One of my favorite examples of liberal hypocrisy is from a made for TV documentary on the life of John Denver. Our prototype tree hugger is explaining to his dad how "cool" and "groovy" it is to travel all over the world saving the rainforest and the ecology by singing songs and raising global consciousness . . . while flying a Lear Jet just for fun.
17 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:25:50 PM by NaughtiusMaximus (Don't blame me . . . voting for Pedro.)
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To: John Jorsett
Uh, 6 is the atomic number of carbon; its most common isotope has an atomic weight of 12.
18 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:26:28 PM by SAJ
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To: Veloxherc

You got caught by a bizarre misinformation campaign.

Lawn mowers and old cars are terrible sources of pollution. An order of magnitude greater than recent cars. If they were serious about pollution they would have a campaign against older cars and lawn mowers.

They don't.

SUV's are a ruse.

Don't trust anyone.

DK


19 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:27:15 PM by Dark Knight
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To: Veloxherc
If a gallon of gas weighs six pounds: Calculate as isoOctane, Trimethylpentane C8H16: 33.3%M carbon.

C+2O---> CO2 ( 12+32=44) X .333

2 Lbs carbon present/gallon requires 10.6# O to form 14.66# of CO2.

I haven't even had to think about Pound-Moles in decades, so I could be off. I could even be off by a factor of two, and that would agree with the figure given

However, given constant stochiometry between IC engines (Not diesel) is should be stressed that no MPG figures are used. Therefore a hybrid will produce exactly as much CO2 per Gallon of fuel.

This all changes if one calculates pounds per MILE, but then if an evil ASSAULT SUV got ten Miles/Gallon, then it would produce 1.46 Pounds of CO2 per mile.

Now, for those who want to calculate the stochiometry of dextrose oxidation, I would dearly love to see how many Pounds Per Mile a JOGGER produces. Or a person on a treadmill. Or me, on my EnviroCorrect™ Specialized trail bike.

As far as I am concerned I would LOVE to have an extra two weeks growing season for my Super Beefsteak VFN Tomatoes, so

Keep Up The Good Work


20 posted on 6/19/2005, 5:28:56 PM by Gorzaloon
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