Scientology "Princess" is a spooky shadow on kooky Katie. (Hollyweird Alert)

The New York Post Online ^ | June 19, 2005 | Philip Recchia

[Jacob Kell]

Katie Holmes' new Scientology "handler" is church "royalty" whose family made millions in business and the stock market - and went on to be plagued by charges of religious harassment and linked to Medicare fraud, The Post has learned. Jessica Rodriguez has emerged as the woman who's been irking Warner Bros. Pictures by shadowing the "Batman Begins" star 24/7 during Holmes' press blitz.

[Jacob Kell]

This Scientology gives me the creeps. However, this heavy-handed attempt at control might well alienate (no pun intended) Katie and cause her to change her mind about Scientology.

[2banana]

It could be worse, other cults make the women wear a burka...

[Mr. Blond]

"Page Not Found"...they've already gotten to the NY Post!

[b4its2late]

The pictures of this chick following her around were in the post yesterday. Creepy is right.....

[Bombardier]

Not there. S'pose the Midget made them yank it?

[agitator]

Scammintology is an ongoing, organized criminal enterprise and cult masquerading as a religion. The entire operation should be siezed, shut down, and its leaders imprisoned.

See here:

http://xenu.net/

[E. Pluribus Unum]

However, this heavy-handed attempt at control might well alienate (no pun intended) Katie and cause her to change her mind about Scientology.

The whole thing is a sham designed to distract attention from the gerbil photos of Tom that an enterprizing Papparazzi has on his flash drive.

[Bombardier]

No joke? Info please....

[George Smiley]

"Page Not Found"...they've already gotten to the NY Post!

Cruise and Travolta and flakes, oh my!

He just screwed up the link, that's all.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

No joke? Info please....

I have this bridge in Brooklyn I'd like for you to see.

I can get it for you, cheap.

[Bombardier]

LMIAO!!! You got me good!

[Blood of Tyrants]

From http://xenu.net/ A person loses the ability to think for themselves and so they lose the ability to challenge incorrect ideas....They end up being afraid of society, believing all society to be controlled by a group of drug companies, psychiatrists and financiers all of whom report to more remote masters. In other words they are in a state of mass paranoia.

Sounds like the vast majority of DUers are scientologists.

[eyespysomething]

login info from bugmenot.com

user: nypost1@mailinator.com
passwd: public

[najida]

It may be an Urban legend, but I've heard that on the net, if you critize/badmouth the CofSci you may find lawyers on your doorstep.

Could be wrong, but I've noticed lots of folks avoid using the 'real' name to keep from getting zinged.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

LMIAO!!! You got me good!

Well, it is plausible, after all.

</DANGER DANGER DANGER WARNING WILL ROBINSON JOKE JOKE JOKE>

[Auntie Dem]

It may be an Urban legend, but I've heard that on the net, if you critize/badmouth the CofSci you may find lawyers on your doorstep.

Not true. You find snakes in your mailbox.

[Mr. Jeeves]

Not true. You find snakes in your mailbox.

That was Synanon, the cult-like drug rehab center in the 70's. One of their ex-members who spoke out got the "snake in the mailbox" treatment.

[najida]

You sure they ain't lawyers in disguise?

[agitator]

It's not an urban legend, when they target you, you can expect that they'll be dumpster diving your garbage and attempting to trash your life in any way they can. They have corps of staff lawyers and plenty of suckers to pay them. You can expect nothing less from brainwashed zombies.

[eyespysomething]

In 1998, sources say, she attained membership in the "Sea Org" group, the highest stratum of Scientology, whose members commit to the church for life — or, more specifically, a billion years.
When they die, the belief goes, their souls slip out of the body and float around seeking another to inhabit. Once that happens, they can serve the church over and over again in reincarnated states.

"She" in this snip is Jessica Rodriguez. She is nutso!!

[sharktrager]

If the story about a contract with Cruise is true, it could be her "conversion" is a fraud. Damned If I Know

[HamiltonJay]

Scientology is a Cult, period.

[ABG(anybody but Gore)]

The old "X-Files" spinoff "Millenium" did a spoof of them a few years ago that was absolutely brilliant. The spokesman was dressed like the Chicago Nazi from "The Blues Brothers" and threatened to sue them for so much as looking at him crosseyed.

[muir_redwoods]

How I wish Heinlein had just given Hubbard the grand.

[Question_Assumptions]

If you think people get to change their mind about Scientology, then you probably haven't read enough Scientology horror stories.

[Quilla]

Are you serious? The "bet" was between Robert Heinlein and L. Ron Hubbard?

[badpacifist]

That could be bad if your burka made you look fatwa.

[Republican Red]

Sounds like the vast majority of DUers are scientologists.

Part of the brain-bending belief system is that humans are infested with the souls of dead space aliens who were brought to Earth 75 million years ago.

ya think?

[apackof2]

I bet Nicole Kidman would love to have a sit down with Katie, unfortuntely it never seems to do any good, the new one never believes the experienced one

[apackof2]

I would love some reporter at a huge media covered event to ask Tom C. or John T

"So Tom/John do you really believe that humans are infested with the souls of dead space aliens who were brought to Earth 75 million years ago."?

[Peach]

That's what Scientology does. They get a convert and follow them to make sure that no one tries to "unconvert" them.

[TightyRighty]

Katie looks like a walking advertisement for Scientology!

[muir_redwoods]

"Are you serious? The "bet" was between Robert Heinlein and L. Ron Hubbard?"

I wasn't there but that's the story. The bet was that Hubbard couldn't invent a religion and attract actual followers. It supposedly went to Hubbard's head when he actually got followers to join up (Think of trekies or the star wars fanatics)so he wrote more. The more fantastic his religion/fiction got, the more committed his followers got. They even interpreted his somewhat early death as proof that he had to move on to a higher plane.

This is probably no different from what many "prophets" have done over the ages. I have my own list of likely charlatans but propriety suggests I not offend their followers here.

[siunevada]

the belief goes, their souls slip out of the body and float around seeking another to inhabit.

No wonder TC was so convincing in Interview With A Vampire! They're Body Snatchers! The Puppet Masters!

[Cinnamon Girl]

I don't think you're allowed to change your mind about scientology. And if you do, you aren't allowed to say so publicly.

[eyespysomething]

Are those cold sores?

[eyespysomething]

LOL, as if it were real.

He was convincing because in his head it was real.

[Jacob Kell]

Could you please explain?

[TightyRighty]

Heck if I know but it amazes me that these people are called beautiful based upon some highly airbrushed photos - when this is what they look like in real life!

[shellshocked]

Scientology = Star Trek for the dumb. It is compelete with UFOs. Nothing but a con for the weak minded and thick checkbook crowd. It isn't even a cult, just a scam.

[Sonny M]

I don't think you're allowed to change your mind about scientology. And if you do, you aren't allowed to say so publicly.

Not true.

Enough members leave and talk about it that its not a big problem for them.

To top it off, they are not violent or dangerious or anything though they are a bit litigious (I wish TROP was like that).

That said I knew 2 folks who were "scientologist", best I could figure out, they joined for the networking and connections. I don't know where they are now, but they were trying to get into the entertainment industry and were having some luck.

I think its a scam masquarading as a networking/contacts/spirituality with no strings attached corporation/cult. Works for some folks.

[shellshocked]

"they are not violent or dangerious"


Except they have been directly involved in the death of more than one person. Scientology is very dangerous.

[stevio]

Sure looks like it.

[Sonny M]

Except they have been directly involved in the death of more than one person. Scientology is very dangerous.

A couple of members may have done something but they are about as dangerious as Buddhists.

These guys are about as scary as the dala lama.

[sharktrager]

The story is that they have agreed to a 5-year relationship, with no sex, with Cruise paying her $1 million a year.

Damned If I Know

[capydick]

Scientology is a Cult, period.

That's not what the aliens in my body tell me.

[garyhope]

I'm starting to not like Tom Cruise. He's been OK in some movies, but I'm starting to think he's a phony. Why is he getting remarried so quickly?

I know about the rumors, I'm starting to believe them.

Not that it really matters or is any of my business of course.

[james500]

"I think its a scam masquarading as a networking/contacts/spirituality with no strings attached corporation/cult. Works for some folks."

So did the Pablo Escobar organization.

[Jacob Kell]

The Top 15 Least Known Chapters in "Dianetics"

1"Getting Chicks To Say Yes: L. Ron Answers the Booty Call"

2"Hey, If It's In a Bestseller, It MUST Be True!"

3"Travolta 3:16"

4"Making Your Own E-meter With Dixie Cups And Duct Tape"

5"Chapter 26: In Which Luke Discovers that L. Ron Vader is His Real Father"

6"Chapter 5: Rush Limbaugh Is A Big Fat Idiot"

7"'Old Mother' Hubbard -- L. Ron, the Transvestite Years"

8"Chapter 12: Geez, You're Still Buying This, Aren't You?"

9"The Human Mind: That Vast Realm Half an Inch Behind the Forehead (Two Inches Back for Scott Hamilton)"

10"When a Lawsuit Hits Your Eye, Like a Big Pizza Pie, That's Scientology"

11"He's NOT the Telescope Guy!"

12"Chapter 11 - How To File For It"

13"Movie Stars -- Are They Gullible, or What?"

14"Chapter 3: Post This on the Internet and We'll Sue Your Ass!"

and the Number 1 Least Known Chapter in "Dianetics"...

15"Commandment Number One: 'Show Me the Money!'"

[Jacob Kell]

So what do they get out of it? I know that Katie becomes more famous as a result (after all, she herself admitted that she wasn't among the more famous actresses and her last few movies didn't do so hot). What does the Ayatollah Cruisemeinei get from it? More publicity among the younger segment of the population? A chance to deflect those gay rumors?