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New York Police Ticket Quota Exposed
http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=4&id=24282 ^

Posted on 06/20/2005 5:23:24 PM PDT by Stew Padasso

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To: konaice

"They can't cite you if you don't commit the violation."

They can come up with something if they really want to. There are so many laws these days that you're bound to be violating one or more of them.


21 posted on 06/20/2005 5:58:55 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Texas Eagle

The big ones nowadays are drinking (or carrying an open container) on the street and public urination.

Graffitti writers and turnstyle jumpers have mostly packed it in.


22 posted on 06/20/2005 5:59:42 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: konaice

>>>"They can't cite you if you don't commit the violation"<<<

"If it Saves One Life!"

(And collects Revenue)

Sheesh... What has happened to my Country?


23 posted on 06/20/2005 6:05:24 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: konaice
Officers were also told to make:

1. 11 collars

2. 33 moving-violation

3. 33 quality-of-life summonses.

Because the article doesn't quite define #3, I have to make some assumptions here. A collar can be an arrest for anything from spitting on the sidewalk to arresting a subject for murder. The people and the department should not be satifisfied with officers who continueally bring in "sidewalk spitters." Moving violations are a necessary part of enforcement, but a quota forces officers to write marginal cases. And I have no idea what the hell quality-of-life summonses are. Out of control juveniles? Residential clean up?

24 posted on 06/20/2005 6:09:51 PM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: Enterprise
but a quota forces officers to write marginal cases.

There is no shortage of serious cases, therefore no need to resort to marginal ones. Anyone who has seen NYC traffic would know this.

Quality of Life is anything from defacement to defication, loud music, to lewd and lacivious.

25 posted on 06/20/2005 6:19:17 PM PDT by konaice
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To: konaice

"They can't cite you if you don't commit the violation"

They certainly can, and do. I've gotten bogus traffic tickets before, and been made to pay anyway. Of course, the other times I've deserved it. ;^)

I had occasion to sit through court a few times during the prosecution of the felon who robbed my house - they did the traffic cases first, and then the criminal cases.

It's amazing to watch. If judges threw the book as hard against criminals as they did against those accused of traffic violations, we'd be virtually crime free.


26 posted on 06/20/2005 6:19:49 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Stew Padasso

My wife and I used to be acquainted with a state cop in our locality with whom she had worked when he was in the military. One day we were visiting, and his wife happened to remark how he had arrested someone the previous week for being intoxicated on the highway. She evidently didn't think he needed to concern himself with such a piddling thing, and told him as much. To which we indignantly replied, "It was a perfectly good drunk!"


27 posted on 06/20/2005 6:22:03 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: konaice
"There is no shortage of traffic offenses in NYC."

There is no shortage of traffic offenses in any big city. But then, traffic enforcement is easy. It produces lots of pretty stats. Makes management look good.

28 posted on 06/20/2005 6:24:33 PM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: thefactor

NYPD ping...


29 posted on 06/20/2005 6:25:27 PM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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To: konaice
"There is no shortage of serious cases, therefore no need to resort to marginal ones. Anyone who has seen NYC traffic would know this."

So that I understand, are you stating categorically that marginal cases in NYC, traffic/criminal, never get written? Is that your assertion before the whole world?

30 posted on 06/20/2005 6:27:48 PM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: Texas Eagle
What's a quality-of-life summons?

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Loitering, public urination, public drinking, panhandling, grafitti writing, sex shops, loud radios, uncleaned sidewalks and lots...got a problem with any of that?

31 posted on 06/20/2005 6:31:45 PM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: stevem; doug from upland

That's not too heavy of a load, "quota" wise. The Work Performance Standards (catchy eh?) in Rancho Cucamonga, CA, were three movers or one DUI per shift. This was over ten years ago, so I can't speak to current 'Standards'.


32 posted on 06/20/2005 6:33:08 PM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: wtc911
Loitering, public urination, public drinking, panhandling, grafitti writing, sex shops, loud radios, uncleaned sidewalks and lots...got a problem with any of that?

No, sir. Can I still burn my American flag in the middle of the street?

33 posted on 06/20/2005 6:34:01 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (A lack of preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.)
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To: Stew Padasso

So we are presented with the fact that the corrupt city fathers use police as revenue collectors rather than crime fighters.

Next we will learn that democrats are really socialists.

And then we will discover that the living constitution is the resurrected communist manifesto.

Life is just one big fat happy classroom.


34 posted on 06/20/2005 6:38:27 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Marxism has not only failed to promote human freedom, it has failed to produce food)
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To: razorback-bert

Most cops could easily write a half dozen tickets a day, legitimately; but few want to be bothered by court appearances [which are usually during off time].


35 posted on 06/20/2005 6:39:44 PM PDT by Chapita (There are none so blind as those who refuse to see! Santana)
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To: Stew Padasso

They should just write ticket to UN officials only and take them to court when they dont pay !


36 posted on 06/20/2005 6:42:18 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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To: Texas Eagle
"Can I still burn my American flag in the middle of the street?"

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I can't imagine why you would want to, but it is protected action under current laws everywhere in the country so knock yourself out....

37 posted on 06/20/2005 6:42:59 PM PDT by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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To: nightdriver
The Washington State Highway Patrol has proudly let be known that they have a quota of tickets that they must give out daily for seatbelt violations.
Hmmm...seatbelt laws. Over a hundred bucks all said and done (court costs,etc) for not wearing my belt ..ah all for my safety. But now , in this state,PA , I don't need a motorcycle helmet (they got sued too many times for making people wear it!),but got to wear that belt! Nah, it's not about the money...
38 posted on 06/20/2005 6:44:22 PM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (No wonder some animals eat their young..)
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To: wtc911
I can't imagine why you would want to,

I was being ...how you say.....ironical.

39 posted on 06/20/2005 6:46:47 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (A lack of preparation on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.)
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To: Stew Padasso

What happened Stew - did you happen to fall within somebody's 'quota'?


40 posted on 06/20/2005 6:50:35 PM PDT by _Jim (<--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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