Posted on 06/20/2005 5:23:24 PM PDT by Stew Padasso
"They can't cite you if you don't commit the violation."
They can come up with something if they really want to. There are so many laws these days that you're bound to be violating one or more of them.
The big ones nowadays are drinking (or carrying an open container) on the street and public urination.
Graffitti writers and turnstyle jumpers have mostly packed it in.
>>>"They can't cite you if you don't commit the violation"<<<
"If it Saves One Life!"
(And collects Revenue)
Sheesh... What has happened to my Country?
1. 11 collars
2. 33 moving-violation
3. 33 quality-of-life summonses.
Because the article doesn't quite define #3, I have to make some assumptions here. A collar can be an arrest for anything from spitting on the sidewalk to arresting a subject for murder. The people and the department should not be satifisfied with officers who continueally bring in "sidewalk spitters." Moving violations are a necessary part of enforcement, but a quota forces officers to write marginal cases. And I have no idea what the hell quality-of-life summonses are. Out of control juveniles? Residential clean up?
There is no shortage of serious cases, therefore no need to resort to marginal ones. Anyone who has seen NYC traffic would know this.
Quality of Life is anything from defacement to defication, loud music, to lewd and lacivious.
"They can't cite you if you don't commit the violation"
They certainly can, and do. I've gotten bogus traffic tickets before, and been made to pay anyway. Of course, the other times I've deserved it. ;^)
I had occasion to sit through court a few times during the prosecution of the felon who robbed my house - they did the traffic cases first, and then the criminal cases.
It's amazing to watch. If judges threw the book as hard against criminals as they did against those accused of traffic violations, we'd be virtually crime free.
My wife and I used to be acquainted with a state cop in our locality with whom she had worked when he was in the military. One day we were visiting, and his wife happened to remark how he had arrested someone the previous week for being intoxicated on the highway. She evidently didn't think he needed to concern himself with such a piddling thing, and told him as much. To which we indignantly replied, "It was a perfectly good drunk!"
There is no shortage of traffic offenses in any big city. But then, traffic enforcement is easy. It produces lots of pretty stats. Makes management look good.
NYPD ping...
So that I understand, are you stating categorically that marginal cases in NYC, traffic/criminal, never get written? Is that your assertion before the whole world?
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Loitering, public urination, public drinking, panhandling, grafitti writing, sex shops, loud radios, uncleaned sidewalks and lots...got a problem with any of that?
That's not too heavy of a load, "quota" wise. The Work Performance Standards (catchy eh?) in Rancho Cucamonga, CA, were three movers or one DUI per shift. This was over ten years ago, so I can't speak to current 'Standards'.
No, sir. Can I still burn my American flag in the middle of the street?
So we are presented with the fact that the corrupt city fathers use police as revenue collectors rather than crime fighters.
Next we will learn that democrats are really socialists.
And then we will discover that the living constitution is the resurrected communist manifesto.
Life is just one big fat happy classroom.
Most cops could easily write a half dozen tickets a day, legitimately; but few want to be bothered by court appearances [which are usually during off time].
They should just write ticket to UN officials only and take them to court when they dont pay !
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I can't imagine why you would want to, but it is protected action under current laws everywhere in the country so knock yourself out....
I was being ...how you say.....ironical.
What happened Stew - did you happen to fall within somebody's 'quota'?
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