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Growing my own tobacco -I've had it with these prices! (A journal)
6-21-5 | RandallFlagg

Posted on 06/21/2005 8:25:15 AM PDT by RandallFlagg

Since I have to get to bed, I'm just going to paste what I placed into the coffinnails.com forum. There's relevant questions inclused that I'll place on this thread if they get answered.

Day one -finally got my seeds!

Them things are SMALL! Sheesh! I had to fuzzy up the end of a Q-Tip to place them into the trays. Before I screw things up, there's a few questions I must ask. The 200 seeds I got are Dark Virginia. I'm doing 16 at a time.

Will the unused seeds keep for a while? I'd like to grow 'em in staggered stages. Will regular tap water work, or will I have to use distilled or rainwater? I have to used that kind for my Venus's Flytraps. Flourescent lighting. Will it work well for staggered stage growing year-round? Humidity? Someone told me that nicotine is a natural insect repellant. Is this true? Has anyone here saved the $$$ they expected to save? That's why I'm doing this. What's the best soil to use?

Luckily, there's a big place near my home called Paulino's Gardens, where I can find almost all the accessories I need for this venture of mine. I'll update on this thread as I go along.

OH! First entry: Got seeds three days ago and placed them on top of potting soil in 16-cube icetray container with holes in the bottom. Placed trays in my carnivorous plant terrarium that uses three 15-watt flourescent bulbs on a 18-hour timer. Sprayed and soaked with rainwater. Crossing my fingers.

Last question for the day: How long should it be before something actually grows?


TOPICS: US: Colorado; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: cutratecancer; discountcarcinoma; growyourown; pufflist; tobacco
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To: RandallFlagg
Take the same amount of time flipping burgers at McDonalds and use the money so you can have your cigs harvested, rolled, packaged and ready to use.

Explain again how one saves money by taking hours and hours to grow their own?

101 posted on 06/22/2005 6:35:51 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Bonafide

Interestingly, I make the malt for Coors. Germination is part of the job. We germinate the grain for five days in our 48 beds.


102 posted on 06/22/2005 6:36:30 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I was aware of the careful handling of the tomatoes after smoking. In fact I was just reading something about that yesterday, soemthing in the cigarette tobacco actually promotes the virus, IIRC.

I can understand your grandfather's reasoning about the tomatoes since the Tobacco was the cash crop.

I'm keeping my fingers tightly crossed that we don't have as wet a summer as we did last year - most of my tomatoes drowned, and I had 65 plants.


103 posted on 06/22/2005 6:38:29 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Yes, I went to the stuffyourown.com link SheLion has been posting.


104 posted on 06/22/2005 6:41:03 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
I'm still trying to master the stuffing without destroying ^-^

Pack the ends of the chamber and leave it slightly loose in the center. Don't even try to stuff wet tobacco. It'll squeeze juice into the mechanism and you'll have to clean it with alcohol to prevent the thing from sticking to the tube's paper. I've also found that canned air used for cleaning keyboards works great for cleaning the springs and such inside the machine. Mine's been going strong since Christmas without a break, wear or malfunction -stuffing for two smokers.
105 posted on 06/22/2005 6:42:02 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: RandallFlagg

Thanks for the tip!


106 posted on 06/22/2005 6:44:49 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Raycpa
Explain again how one saves money by taking hours and hours to grow their own?

The same way one saves money growing any type of crop for personal consumption. And there is also the personal satisfaction of having produced ones own.

Only someone that does much gardening understand the satisfaction of it. By the time my garden is fully worked I will have close to 200 tomatoe, 150 pepper, 300 square feet of beans, and several hundred assorted other plants - not including corn and possibly tobacco.

107 posted on 06/22/2005 6:46:20 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Gabz

Beat me to it.


108 posted on 06/22/2005 6:47:22 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: TXBSAFH
In a related note, there is a bill in congress that would allow you to distill your own spirits for personal use.

No kidding? Now that would be fantastic.

109 posted on 06/22/2005 6:48:09 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Raycpa
Take the same amount of time flipping burgers at McDonalds and use the money so you can have your cigs harvested, rolled, packaged and ready to use.

A -I'll never smoke those nasty things again. They burn too fast and are diluted with crap.
B -Moved on from McDonald's decades ago to bigger and better: BEER.
110 posted on 06/22/2005 6:51:00 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: RandallFlagg

I could handle that kind of job :)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


111 posted on 06/22/2005 6:52:28 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: RandallFlagg

It's an absolute no brainer to me when it comes to growing many types of things.

I don't do flowers as a rule, I've got some, but they were already part of the landscaping when we bought this place. To me the satisfaction of having fresh vegetables on the table, or homemade jelly or hot sauce is worth the hours of labor in the garden.

and speaking of the garden, I need to start thinking of getting my butt out of this chair and getting to work :) But I still have laundry going so I have a little bit longer before I get out there.


112 posted on 06/22/2005 6:55:51 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Gabz

Pays great, but I'm a whiskey man.


113 posted on 06/22/2005 6:55:52 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: RandallFlagg

Where did you get the seeds?


114 posted on 06/22/2005 6:56:32 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Gabz

I understand the satisfaction part but it doesn't translate to savings. Justify the endeavor because its nice to achieve something and possibly get a better fresher tobacco, but don't kid yourself its cheaper.

Take the same labor hours and multiply it by the persons potential income from another activity and it cannot translate to savings.

In addition to labor, there are hidden costs. Water, electric, pots, fertilizer, pest control, the cost of a shed for drying plus property taxes on it. All of these are costs.


115 posted on 06/22/2005 6:57:26 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Gabz

Heh! Like I was yesterday morning:

"Last post. Gotta get to bed."

"Seriesly. Last post."

etc, etc....


116 posted on 06/22/2005 6:58:22 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: tiki
Where did you get the seeds?

The Tobacco Seed Company
117 posted on 06/22/2005 7:00:09 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: hlmencken3
Tobacco used to be widely grown in home gardens,

Tobacco was grown in the streets of Jamestown in colonial America, and commonly used in lieu of hard money.

118 posted on 06/22/2005 7:02:49 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am NOT a *legal entity* ......... Nor am I a 'person' as created by law!)
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To: RandallFlagg

LOL!!!

I'm a beer girl myself - and love ice cold Coors draft!!!!


119 posted on 06/22/2005 7:04:51 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: Raycpa

Not to butt in here, but, isn't this the same logic that tells us to buy vegetables from Mexico?

I grow tobacco because I like doing so. I get a superior and clean product, that is probably worth about $30.00 a pack. Since it is not for sale, it is all mine.

Imagine, me, a poor farmer, siting back and enjoying a $5.00 cigarette with a glass of home made (easily worth $100.00 a glass) Blackberry wine.


120 posted on 06/22/2005 7:05:32 AM PDT by Bonafide
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