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Growing my own tobacco -I've had it with these prices! (A journal)
6-21-5 | RandallFlagg

Posted on 06/21/2005 8:25:15 AM PDT by RandallFlagg

Since I have to get to bed, I'm just going to paste what I placed into the coffinnails.com forum. There's relevant questions inclused that I'll place on this thread if they get answered.

Day one -finally got my seeds!

Them things are SMALL! Sheesh! I had to fuzzy up the end of a Q-Tip to place them into the trays. Before I screw things up, there's a few questions I must ask. The 200 seeds I got are Dark Virginia. I'm doing 16 at a time.

Will the unused seeds keep for a while? I'd like to grow 'em in staggered stages. Will regular tap water work, or will I have to use distilled or rainwater? I have to used that kind for my Venus's Flytraps. Flourescent lighting. Will it work well for staggered stage growing year-round? Humidity? Someone told me that nicotine is a natural insect repellant. Is this true? Has anyone here saved the $$$ they expected to save? That's why I'm doing this. What's the best soil to use?

Luckily, there's a big place near my home called Paulino's Gardens, where I can find almost all the accessories I need for this venture of mine. I'll update on this thread as I go along.

OH! First entry: Got seeds three days ago and placed them on top of potting soil in 16-cube icetray container with holes in the bottom. Placed trays in my carnivorous plant terrarium that uses three 15-watt flourescent bulbs on a 18-hour timer. Sprayed and soaked with rainwater. Crossing my fingers.

Last question for the day: How long should it be before something actually grows?


TOPICS: US: Colorado; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: cutratecancer; discountcarcinoma; growyourown; pufflist; tobacco
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To: Raycpa
Take the same labor hours and multiply it by the persons potential income from another activity and it cannot translate to savings.

"When you're doing something that you love to do, it's not even considered work." --Rush Limbaugh

Water

Already paying for it.

electric

Same as above.

pots

Have had these handy for years.

fertilizer

Not expensive at all for the small area I'm using.

pest control

Same as above.

the cost of a shed for drying

Have a spare already.

plus property taxes on it

Already paying for this.

All of these are costs.

Yup. But they're costs I can live with happily.
121 posted on 06/22/2005 7:08:08 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Bonafide
Mature plants will produce zillions of seeds from flowers.

You don't top your tobacco?

122 posted on 06/22/2005 7:09:42 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Bonafide
I get a superior and clean product, that is probably worth about $30.00 a pack. Since it is not for sale, it is all mine.

BINGO! Nail on the head!
123 posted on 06/22/2005 7:09:56 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Gabz

I grew carrots for the first time last year.

I blanched them and had carrots all winter.

The carrots are doing very well this year again too.

I have NOT been successful with the tomatoes. They get eaten by the critter squad.

I have hatched and released several praying mantis coccons. Don't know how to keep the skunks out though. Nor can I understand why they only target my tomatoes.


124 posted on 06/22/2005 7:13:47 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Raycpa
In addition to labor, there are hidden costs. Water, electric, pots, fertilizer, pest control, the cost of a shed for drying plus property taxes on it. All of these are costs.

Sheesh. There's always one person who truly enjoys farting in church.

125 posted on 06/22/2005 7:14:05 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: fireforeffect
For tomatoes, I do not know. 12 gage? .22? Works for me. Watch the wind direction though.

I shot a skunk in my backyard with a .17 once, although I got in trouble for it.

126 posted on 06/22/2005 7:14:06 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: RandallFlagg

My dads side of the family farmed in Mt Sterling, Kentucky. Tobacco was a primary crop. Air dried and hand rolled. It was the reason my dad even smoked in the first place. He did quit, but grandpa rolled to the day he died.


127 posted on 06/22/2005 7:14:21 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: Gabz

>>>But I still have laundry going so I have a little bit longer before I get out there.

THAT is a choir I would like to outsource :P


128 posted on 06/22/2005 7:15:29 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

No. They go to a CERCLA aproved landfill.


129 posted on 06/22/2005 7:15:42 AM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: RandallFlagg

"When you're doing something that you love to do, it's not even considered work." --Rush Limbaugh


Thank you. Missed that quote. Keeper.


130 posted on 06/22/2005 7:17:23 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
I have hatched and released several praying mantis coccons.

NOW I remember you! You gave me that link months ago for a place that sells mantid egg sacs
131 posted on 06/22/2005 7:18:27 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: fireforeffect


>>>No. They go to a CERCLA aproved landfill.

I had to look that up :) Thanks for the input.

http://www.epa.gov/superfund/action/law/cercla.htm


132 posted on 06/22/2005 7:18:34 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: RandallFlagg

:)

http://insectlore.com/

Just got our painted ladies too!


133 posted on 06/22/2005 7:19:19 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Then why on earth are the skunks eating my tomato plants?

Good cure all for pests- Ex-lax!

My husbands Grandmother had skunks under her house. She paid TWO extermination companies to get rid of them, but the skunks came back again.

Hubby did some research, and a few squares of Ex-lax tossed under the house got rid of the problem for good!

WARNING- Make sure NO pets (or any other animal you want to live) doesn't get into it!

Toss a square or two of Ex-lax at the base of each plant, and it should cure the skunk problem right up in a couple of days. :)

134 posted on 06/22/2005 7:19:25 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am NOT a *legal entity* ......... Nor am I a 'person' as created by law!)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

ROFL!!!!!!


135 posted on 06/22/2005 7:19:57 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Raycpa

You obviously do not do much gardening.

I save many hundreds of dollars by growing my own produce and making many of my own products from it that would be costing a me a fortune if purchased in the supermarket..........and that was while I had a fulltime paying job. Now my full time job is being mom and thus have been able to expand the amount of time I have for gardening.

There is a tremendous monetary benefit to me for what I am growing, including my own time and labor, adding a bit more time to it for tobacco is no big deal.

As to the "hidden" costs you are so concerned about - I don't use any more water or electric than if I wasn't growing anything, I already have a barn, but tobacco canbe dried in a basement or attic, and the property taxes have to be paid anyway. As to pesticides and fertilizers, my costs for those are absolutely minimal if anything.....I live in chicken country, manure is generally mine for the asking.

There are intrinsic costs in anything anyone chooses to do - but I have weighed the costs to the savings of growing my own produce many times over the years..............the savings far surpass the cost. Adding tobacco to my list of crops has added no cost except for the intial seed purchase, but I won't have to purchase seeds again because I will harvest my own.............just like I do with most of my food crops.


136 posted on 06/22/2005 7:23:02 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Sleep well, my FRiend - talk soon!


137 posted on 06/22/2005 7:23:51 AM PDT by Gabz (My give-a-damn is busted.)
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To: MamaTexan

That sounds like an interesting solution.

But I have a dog and cats. Need the cats, they are mousers.

Ever since we got hit with the flooding from Hurricane Floyd, the rats come up from the sewer system.

Now, maybe they are the ones that are eating my tomatoes? I don't know. I see the skunks around; but the only rats and mice I see are the gifts my cats bring to the back door.

Cats earn their keep.


138 posted on 06/22/2005 7:23:58 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: 4KennewickMan2Invent

You can also buy tobacco already cured in bulk.


139 posted on 06/22/2005 7:24:48 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Gabz

AND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The kids learn ALOT from making and growing your own anything.

I am sick and tired of my kids bringing home friends that think everything comes from a shelf or box.

How sad for these children.


140 posted on 06/22/2005 7:26:54 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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