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Found Boy Scout Released From Hospital
ABC News ^ | June 22nd, 2005 | PAUL FOY

Posted on 06/22/2005 9:39:08 AM PDT by Skylus

KAMAS, Utah Jun 22, 2005 — The 11-year-old boy who wandered lost for four days in a mountain wilderness before rescuers found him was released from a hospital early Wednesday, a spokeswoman said.

Brennan Hawkins was found in good condition Tuesday by a 43-year-old house painter on an ATV who was out looking on his own, miles outside of active search grids.

Brennan left Primary Children's Medical Center in Salt Lake City not long after midnight, said Bonnie Midget, a hospital spokeswoman. Doctors had said they wanted to keep him at least overnight for tests, said Dr. Ed Clark, the hospital's medical director.

The boy apparently eluded thousands of searchers by defying conventional wisdom: He went up instead of down.

Sheriff Dave Edmunds had said Brennan would have been more likely to head down a river valley from a 530-acre Boy Scout camp in the Uinta mountains.

"Typically children walk downhill, along the least path of resistance," he said. That possibility raised particular fears because the East Fork of the Bear River, which is normally ankle-deep, was swollen by heavy mountain snow melt.

However, Brennan had hiked some 600 feet higher and more than five miles into the mountains to the spot where searcher Forrest Nunley found him before noon Tuesday.

"I turned a corner and there was a kid standing in the middle of the trail. He was all muddy and wet," from walking over wet ground, said Nunley, who dialed 911 on his cell phone and said he was lucky to find a signal.

"People say that the heavens are closed and God no longer answers prayers. We are here to unequivocally tell you that the heavens are not closed, prayers are answered and children come home," said Brennan's mother, Jody Hawkins.

The boy had seen some searchers on horseback but avoided them because he was scared, Nunley said. "He was a little delirious. I sat him down and gave him a little food."

After downing bottles of water and eating all the granola bars carried by a group of volunteer searchers, the boy asked to play a video game on one rescuer's cell phone, the sheriff said.


TOPICS: US: Utah
KEYWORDS: boyscout

1 posted on 06/22/2005 9:39:11 AM PDT by Skylus
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To: Skylus
the boy asked to play a video game on one rescuer's cell phone, the sheriff said

Unreal.

2 posted on 06/22/2005 9:40:37 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: Tax-chick
LOL. . .just what I'd expect from a strong kid. . .now that that crisis is over, let's play.

Good kid.
3 posted on 06/22/2005 9:45:20 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Tax-chick
After downing bottles of water and eating all the granola bars carried by a group of volunteer searchers, the boy asked to play a video game on one rescuer's cell phone, the sheriff said.

Guess that shyness wore off.

4 posted on 06/22/2005 9:45:42 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Tax-chick

He was obviously suffering from the video game DT's to want to play such a primitive game.


5 posted on 06/22/2005 9:49:26 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Tax-chick

I'm a firm believer in walkie talkies when people are in the woods. I bought several units at $10 each. I hope the scouts think of this. I know the terrain effects its' use but we have had darn good luck on our 100 acres of tough woods and its' an EXTRA way of keeping tabs on the grandchildren. We always tests the abilities of the user, too.


6 posted on 06/22/2005 9:50:38 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The kid has ADS...based on all the comments that have been said. He doesn't totally focus on the real world around him...most 11-year old's would have grasped not to wonder too far...or to have taken the downward trail from the camp (he took the uphill route which even the experts couldn't believe).


7 posted on 06/22/2005 9:52:49 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Skylus

Brennan had no food or water during those four days in the wilderness. It's amazing that he was even found in an unbelievably good and healthy condition even with all of the wild animals crawling about the area.


8 posted on 06/22/2005 9:52:59 AM PDT by Skylus (Make a liberal mad today! visit here: http://www.network54.com/Forum/88448)
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To: All

It is a blessing that he was found alive. People need to be more aware of how to survive outdoors. I recently purchased a DVD about outdoor survival and it is really great. The guy explains how to stay safe and warm and the best ways to get "unlost" or found. The name of the DVD is Wilderness Bob's Outdoor Survival Guide, you can buy it online at:

http://www.ibiny.com/wildernessbob.html


9 posted on 06/22/2005 9:54:05 AM PDT by Debel
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To: Gunrunner2

It just made me wonder if he took off from camp because there were no video games.


10 posted on 06/22/2005 9:57:36 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: Gunrunner2

Yep. Strong kid.


11 posted on 06/22/2005 9:57:37 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: Skylus

It is just too bad that the other twelve year old (missing since last year) still has not been found, even though the two locations of these two separate boy scouts where Brennan was found and the twelve year old was last seen are very close by.


12 posted on 06/22/2005 9:58:49 AM PDT by Skylus (Make a liberal mad today! visit here: http://www.network54.com/Forum/88448)
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To: Debel

Great idea!


13 posted on 06/22/2005 9:59:07 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: Sacajaweau

We have walkie-talkies, but the kids always leave them on and run the batteries down :-).


14 posted on 06/22/2005 9:59:59 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: pepsionice

When I read that he said that he wasn't scared I knew he was either lying (quite possible) or did not fully realize the seriousness of his situation.


15 posted on 06/22/2005 10:02:45 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Tax-chick

My sense is that the boy isn't quite hitting all cylinders. He is still a cub scout at age 11.


16 posted on 06/22/2005 11:10:11 AM PDT by mlmr (CHICKIE-POO!)
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To: Skylus

Happy news BTTT!


17 posted on 06/22/2005 11:52:26 AM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (My poor cat has a broken leg.... and a huge cast. <^..^>)
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To: Skylus

Just thought you would all like to know how the oh so intelligent progressive people at DU are reacting to this story. Warning: Have your blood pressure medication close at hand

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3920647

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3920009


18 posted on 06/22/2005 12:34:46 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: mlmr

11 (6th grade) is the very youngest a boy can be a Boy Scout. With many boys starting kindergarten later, it wouldn't surprise me to find a good number who were second-year Webelos at 11.

However, that doesn't mean this boy isn't disabled in some way.


19 posted on 06/22/2005 12:44:36 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: mlmr
I just looked at another article where the parents said he was "socially immature," but not disabled. Possibly he repeated a school grade, or they just didn't think he was mature enough for Boy Scouts.

The parents said Brennan had seen people searching for him on horse and ATV, but avoided them because of what he had been taught. "He stayed on the trail, he avoided strangers," Jody Hawkins said. "His biggest fear, he told me, was that someone would steal him." They said they hadn't talked to Brennan and his four siblings about what they should do about strangers if they were lost. "This may have come to a faster conclusion had we discussed that," Toby Hawkins said.

This is a very important point, which I hadn't thought of at all. It's sad that a child would be so frightened of kidnappers that he'd avoid people searching for him!

20 posted on 06/22/2005 12:49:48 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: mlmr
My sense is that the boy isn't quite hitting all cylinders. He is still a cub scout at age 11

He's a perfectly normal 11 year old. Some 11 year olds are less socially mature than others, and he appears to fall on that side of the equation. He'll catch up.

21 posted on 06/22/2005 12:52:35 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Tax-chick

Brennan's mom (My cousin) said in a news conference today that Brennan was born premature and that he has always been a little behind socially but isn't retarded or slow mentally.

He stuck to two rules: Stay on the trail and stranger danger. He hid from strangers because he was afraid of being stolen. (As Jay Leno said, he was scared because MJ had just been aquitted).

He was delerious. His mom said he didn't remeber that he had gone camping and thought he had only spent a night or two up there but it was actually 4 nights. He also said he didn't drink any water but there is plenty of water with all the snow runoff with little streams, ponds, and pools and the doctors said he was only 10-20% dehydrated. So, he must have taken drinks and just couldn't remember.

When we went to search for him, they trained us and said he may be delerious and completely unreasonable and would do crazy things. Even with that we thought there is no way he could be in an area like we were searching because it was so steep and so rough going. Turns out he went up a trail just as steep and difficult as the one we went up just one slope over.


22 posted on 06/22/2005 1:02:18 PM PDT by Rad_J
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To: Rad_J
Thank you for the information (not that it's any of our business :-).

Earlier today I ordered the "Wilderness Bob" DVD, and I'll be sure to my kids that staying away from strangers isn't the smartest thing if they're lost in the woods.

(As Jay Leno said, he was scared because MJ had just been aquitted).

If that's true, it sure says something about the unwisdom of letting children watch the news!

23 posted on 06/22/2005 1:15:00 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: commonasdirt; Sundog; terjegirl

No kidding! Any, and I mean it when I say ANY small little story with a happy ending has to immediately be turned around, put down, and/or be compared to something "so much more horrifying" or streched "beyond comprehension" by media standars! Its wonderful that they found Brennan, but honestly! Why on earth do the DUmmies have to immediately say how bad it is to be focused on something wonderful for a moment and have to compare it with something that is screaming negativity? Is it just their natural instinct? Give them positive imput, and they vomit negative output...typical...

Man, if I could get an account on there...I'd give them my wrath...

(oh, and I sincerely appologize for not being able to correctly phrase my anger I feel towards them at the moment...I'm only a mere "18 year old child" you know...)


24 posted on 06/22/2005 3:02:03 PM PDT by Skylus (Make a liberal mad today! visit here: http://www.network54.com/Forum/88448)
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To: Skylus

And I also appologize for my simple spelling errors


25 posted on 06/22/2005 3:07:05 PM PDT by Skylus (Make a liberal mad today! visit here: http://www.network54.com/Forum/88448)
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To: Skylus
Why on earth do the DUmmies have to immediately say how bad it is to be focused on something wonderful for a moment and have to compare it with something that is screaming negativity? Is it just their natural instinct? Give them positive imput, and they vomit negative output...typical...

Because this is what they are. Bitter, hate-filled, mean-spirited - they can't stand the fact that a little lost boy from a loving, religious family was found alive. They actually resent that he's a white boy. How sick is that?!

26 posted on 06/22/2005 3:24:40 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Skylus; grannie9; restornu

Skylus,

Let me be the first to wish you a happy birthday tomorrow. You are no longer a 'mere' 18 year old.

Think of DUmmies the same way you think of wood ticks, tape worms, fresh water leeches, clouds of mosquitoes, and giant biting wasps. They all depend on you to live but show their gratitude rather poorly.


27 posted on 06/22/2005 4:18:30 PM PDT by Sundog (Cheers)
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To: Skylus

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SKY!:)

28 posted on 06/22/2005 6:09:50 PM PDT by restornu (Media & Socialist Democrates Mission.... Nullify Good "GWB BAD!" Humanized Evil "Sadam Good!")
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To: pepsionice

Thanks for telling me.......so that is what wrong with me!

But sense I walk in both shoes I think you are misguided!:)


29 posted on 06/22/2005 6:41:08 PM PDT by restornu (Media & Socialist Democrates Mission.... Nullify Good "GWB BAD!" Humanized Evil "Sadam Good!")
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To: Tax-chick
This is a very important point, which I hadn't thought of at all. It's sad that a child would be so frightened of kidnappers that he'd avoid people searching for him!

He was taught not to talk to strangers....he was also taught that should he get lost to stay in one place so he could be found!

30 posted on 06/22/2005 6:45:33 PM PDT by restornu (Media & Socialist Democrates Mission.... Nullify Good "GWB BAD!" Humanized Evil "Sadam Good!")
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To: Skylus

Sky you should know by now you can't reason with the opposition it is what they thrive on!


31 posted on 06/22/2005 6:48:03 PM PDT by restornu (Media & Socialist Democrates Mission.... Nullify Good "GWB BAD!" Humanized Evil "Sadam Good!")
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To: Tax-chick; Rad_J

Earlier today I ordered the "Wilderness Bob" DVD, and I'll be sure to my kids that staying away from strangers isn't the smartest thing if they're lost in the woods.

*****

He is from the land of Elizabeth Smart and so sometimes life presents a double edge sword which one do you choose?

I say "Stand Ye In Holy Place!" and the Lord will do the rest!


32 posted on 06/22/2005 6:52:08 PM PDT by restornu (Media & Socialist Democrates Mission.... Nullify Good "GWB BAD!" Humanized Evil "Sadam Good!")
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To: commonasdirt

Sadly, some on FR have been just as mean.


33 posted on 06/22/2005 10:30:10 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (News junkie here)
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To: restornu

Hindsight is 20/20, and all that. I'm just glad he's safe.


34 posted on 06/23/2005 5:21:35 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: pepsionice

"The kid has ADS...based on all the comments that have been said. He doesn't totally focus on the real world around him..."

Saw the family press conference and thought something wasn't right. The kid was a little TOO shy.


35 posted on 06/23/2005 5:24:21 AM PDT by toddlintown (Your papers please.)
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To: pepsionice

What's ADS?


36 posted on 06/23/2005 5:38:17 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: savedbygrace

Attention-Deficit Syndrome. A neurological disorder. According to the National Institute of Health, between 3% and 5% of the population in this country are affected by ADS. The major symptoms of the disorder are distractibility, forgetfulness, inability to concentrate, poor attention span and impulsiveness. This kid acted on impulse, although he did always remember the parents command...strangers are bad...otherwise, he didn't do anything you'd expect...except survive...which might be the one great positive out of this story.


37 posted on 06/23/2005 8:51:53 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice; Tax-chick; Rad_J; Skylus; Sundog

38 posted on 06/23/2005 3:23:11 PM PDT by restornu (MEDIA;SOCIALIST DEMS & ACLU Mission.... Nullify Good "GWB BAD!" Humanized Evil "Sadam Good!")
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To: pepsionice
The major symptoms of the disorder are distractibility, forgetfulness, inability to concentrate, poor attention span and impulsiveness.

Gosh, those sound like the major symptoms of being 11.

39 posted on 06/23/2005 3:51:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: restornu

Thanks for the map - far side of nowhere!


40 posted on 06/23/2005 3:51:41 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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To: Skylus

As much as all are happy that the boy was found safe and sound, what is absent is the leadership failure which allowed this to happen in the first place. First there was no 'buddy' system in place - you don't go anywhere, even to the toilet, without your buddy. Secondly, there should have been somewhere in the boy's scouting experience the basic actions to take when lost - stay put. Thirdly, camp staff lost control of the boys and had no means to account for them as they transited from one point to another. I know this may make some of you upset, however, leaders of boys everywhere need to see that these things happen and more importantly, how to prevent it.


41 posted on 06/23/2005 3:59:28 PM PDT by Godzilla (The 2nd Amendment - The Original Homeland Security)
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To: Debel

Thanks for posting that. I had seen that at REI - and forgot to get it. I am going to show it to my homeschool group and have hubby show it to the Cub scouts.


42 posted on 06/23/2005 7:02:01 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Tax-chick
Hello Ms. TC!

I read a great book on the topic of "stranger Danger". The Book is titled Protecting the Gift and is written by someone who had been an FBI profiler. His advice is to teach children NOT to stay away from all strangers but to find a Mom with children. ( would not have helped our little friend here- but in most cases could be applicable)

I have had two experiences with lost children. Once I found a very small child in a parking lot at Target and he had obviously gotten lost and left the store. He was petrified and I asked him if I could help him and he cried and ran further INTO the parking lot!!! (UGH)

Last weekend I found a three year old girl who was so scared she could not tell me her name. I just kept telling her it was OK I was a Mom and my son was with me, and I promised her that her Mom was looking for her- because Moms do not leave places without their children. And I promised her we would not rest until we found her Mom. She held onto me for dear life- but at least she went. IT took a while but we did find her Mom.

I got a lot of good advice from that book.

Raising children is not for the timid or weak of heart, is it?

*sigh*

43 posted on 06/23/2005 7:12:37 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

I remember reading that book a couple of years ago. It's in the Meck. library. Thanks for the reminder - I should check it out again! I remember the "find a woman with kids" advice, because it was different from "find a police officer." The author pointed out that most people in uniform aren't police officers, and are no more likely to be safe to approach than any randomly-selected man.


44 posted on 06/24/2005 3:51:21 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Working Class Zero with wall-to-wall carpeting.)
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