Posted on 06/23/2005 9:00:06 AM PDT by areafiftyone
I agree with you in that, whatever you or I think of them, NEITHER can win the Republican nomination. And they would probably split the party if somehow they did.
I think it's good we are concerned about 2008 and plan ahead. It will be a tough race.
But I hope I and others here are not getting too pessimistic.
These two have name recognition. There's time for others to gain it.
"The dems will turn out because they love HilLIARy, and the repubs will stay home because McCain is an a$$hole"
Absolutely not true--I live in the South and my Dem buddies roll their eyes at the mere mention of Hillary--But mention McCain, and they say-"Ive always liked him..." Dems will flock to McCain if he runs against Hill, and you heard THAT here first...(unless somebody else said it already:)
Zogby needs to follow this up with another question: In a race between Hillary Clinton and John McCain, whom do you think would be the first to implode?
"Hold your nose and vote, friends." No way, but I won't complain.
Are you saying I should vote for the frog party?
Let's be honest here....The last poll among Republicans that I saw had Rudy Guiliani and McCain right at the top of Republicans' preferences.
Neither of the choices offered would be of any positive benefit to the United States.
Draft Dr. Condoleezza Rice.
You should vote for anyone you want, or no one at all. Depending on what you want for this moribund country while it's on it's way into history.
Notice that Zogby is claiming that Bush has LOST ground since the election, and yet his poll shows him beating Kerry, whereas his polls before the election showed KERRY CLEARLY WINNING. This is an outright lie, I don't know what this guys agenda is anymore.
As for McCain, don't fool yourself for a second into thinking that he would actually have a 20 point lead come 2008. Polls this far ahead favor less known and less controversial candidates, but I guarantee you by 2008 the Democratic faithful would rally around Hillary and McCain would have a major turnout problem.
Pray for W and Our Iraq Winning Troops
"Most of my liberal friends love McCain and would probably vote for him over Hillary."
Absolutely not. Liberals are coddling McCain now because he is the most effective opposition to conservatives. If they got a race between Hillary and McCain, they would ALL come back to the plantation and vote for Hillary. I bounced this off a Democrat friend of mine and she essentially felt the same way. She said she wouldn't vote for McCain because she still ultimately thinks he's conservative since he's pro-life (I don't know if that's true).
Either way you get a lib in office!
In Alabama...McCain is considered a joke. He can't carry even 30 percent of the Republicans in the state. I think this ought to be the message to the Republicans...if you want to win...you better clear up your message throughout the south and sell us on your words. McCain has failed. Ms. Rice would get an awful good reception with southern voters. I think she ought to be the number one.
They fair well in national polling for the general election as well, primarily based on name recognition. With Cheney out (for good reason), who else is there on the Republican bench who isn't a whozat outside of their region (e.g., George Allen)? Condi? That's a non-starter (no experience in elective politics).
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