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A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT (PROPERTY RIGHTS)
2005-06-23 | UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Posted on 06/23/2005 10:50:22 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

RIGHT TO REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY

1. Whereas the power to tax is the power to destroy; Tax on all property, real and personal, except as income or on sale or transfer, above one-tenth of one percent per annum shall be prohibited.

2. The taking of property by eminent domain shall only be by just compensation for the purpose of the erection of public infrastructure.

3. Public property that is sold or otherwise converted to private use within 20 years shall first be offered to its original owner(s) or their heirs in substantially its original condition at its original price of acquisition.

4. Property that is seized for non-payment of taxes must be speedily sold at auction. Any amount above the tax owed and costs must be returned to the owner.

5. This article shall have no time limit on its ratification.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: amendment; eminentdomain; kelo; propertyrights; tyranny; tyrrany
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Treat it like a congressional debate. What changes would you offer? Then let's send it to Congress.

There are things to keep in mind. By prohibiting property tax, you prohibit confiscatory rates and seizures through nonpayment. But you also raise other tax rates to compensate. Some places have a lot of property and few people. I am a believer in taxing only income flows and not wealth. But then you have to deal with leins and seizures and provide language for that which cannot be abused. We know that with our courts you have to be explicit and then some.

Section 3 could use some work in defining what is conversion to private use such as renting the land out or offering private concessions at a public facility. But I am presenting this as an initial draft.

1 posted on 06/23/2005 10:50:23 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I tried posting the following had major problems...doing something wrong. Received in an e-mail, but had been on fox News.

Supreme Court Expands Reach of Eminent Domain

Thursday, June 23, 2005



WASHINGTON — A divided Supreme Court ruled that local governments may seize people's homes and businesses against their will for private development in a decision anxiously awaited in communities where economic growth conflicts with individual property rights.

Thursday's 5-4 ruling represented a defeat for some Connecticut residents whose homes are slated for destruction to make room for an office complex. They argued that cities have no right to take their land except for projects with a clear public use, such as roads or schools, or to revitalize blighted areas.

As a result, cities now have wide power to bulldoze residences for projects such as shopping malls and hotel complexes in order to generate tax revenue.

Local officials, not federal judges, know best in deciding whether a development project will benefit the community, justices said.

"The city has carefully formulated an economic development that it believes will provide appreciable benefits to the community, including — but by no means limited to — new jobs and increased tax revenue," Justice John Paul Stevens wrote for the majority.

He was joined by Justice Anthony Kennedy, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer.

At issue was the scope of the Fifth Amendment, which allows governments to take private property through eminent domain if the land is for "public use."

Susette Kelo and several other homeowners in a working-class neighborhood in New London, Conn., filed suit after city officials announced plans to raze their homes for a riverfront hotel, health club and offices.

New London officials countered that the private development plans served a public purpose of boosting economic growth that outweighed the homeowners' property rights, even if the area wasn't blighted.

Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who has been a key swing vote on many cases before the court, issued a stinging dissent. She argued that cities should not have unlimited authority to uproot families, even if they are provided compensation, simply to accommodate wealthy developers.

The lower courts had been divided on the issue, with many allowing a taking only if it eliminates blight.

"Any property may now be taken for the benefit of another private party, but the fallout from this decision will not be random," O'Connor wrote. "The beneficiaries are likely to be those citizens with disproportionate influence and power in the political process, including large corporations and development firms."

She was joined in her opinion by Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, as well as Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas.

Nationwide, more than 10,000 properties were threatened or condemned in recent years, according to the Institute for Justice, a Washington public interest law firm representing the New London homeowners.

New London, a town of less than 26,000, once was a center of the whaling industry and later became a manufacturing hub. More recently the city has suffered the kind of economic woes afflicting urban areas across the country, with losses of residents and jobs.

The New London neighborhood that will be swept away includes Victorian-era houses and small businesses that in some instances have been owned by several generations of families. Among the New London residents in the case is a couple in their 80s who have lived in the same home for more than 50 years.

City officials envision a commercial development that would attract tourists to the Thames riverfront, complementing an adjoining Pfizer Corp. research center and a proposed Coast Guard museum.

New London was backed in its appeal by the National League of Cities, which argued that a city's eminent domain power was critical to spurring urban renewal with development projects such Baltimore's Inner Harbor and Kansas City's Kansas Speedway.


excerted.
http://www.foxnews.com


2 posted on 06/23/2005 10:55:35 AM PDT by Burlem
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To: Burlem

Seems they just scratched the 5th Amendment, one giant step toward socialism


3 posted on 06/23/2005 10:56:29 AM PDT by Burlem
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To: Burlem

There goes the neighborhood.


4 posted on 06/23/2005 10:56:46 AM PDT by junaid
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

"Bump" comment of the day:

Dems send fake letters to our Republican congressmen. The MSM pushes the idea of "no polls".

The outcome? Republicans read and react to constituent letters that are fake.

Rush figured out he was getting fake calls, FreeRepublic realized trolls were among us, but the GOP reps still haven't figured it out.


5 posted on 06/23/2005 10:56:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (Deep Throat(s) -- top level FBI officials playing cub reporters for suckers.)
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To: Burlem

Once again while conservatives attempt to protect individuals from government, liberals assert government rights and power over individuals.


6 posted on 06/23/2005 10:59:18 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Why not just use the ones that are already there that outlaw this?


7 posted on 06/23/2005 11:01:44 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I would add a provision that land taken under eminent domain may not be sold to a private entity except for the original owner or heirs for a period of 20 years. This would put an end to the practice of local government siezing land to sell to a developer so that they might enjoy higher tax revenues from the property.


8 posted on 06/23/2005 11:01:45 AM PDT by VRWCRick
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To: Burlem

That article was posted here, too:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1428929/posts

Will cross-post to this thread, as constitutional amendment was discussed there.


9 posted on 06/23/2005 11:02:53 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (News junkie here)
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To: Jubal Harshaw; MineralMan; Blowtorch

Ping


10 posted on 06/23/2005 11:06:06 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (News junkie here)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I'll stick with the existing Constitution.

I don't think I agree with any of your proposed text.


11 posted on 06/23/2005 11:06:59 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

** MAJOR SOCIALISM ALERT **
And who said that the Supreme Court liberals are trying to set up the judiciary as the tool of destruction of individual rights???

Welcome to the People's Republic of the United States!!!


12 posted on 06/23/2005 11:07:24 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Burlem
"The city has carefully formulated an economic development that it believes will provide appreciable benefits to the community, including — but by no means limited to — new jobs and increased tax revenue," Justice John Paul Stevens wrote for the majority.

Does anyone ave an actual copy of the opinion. I would like to reads it first before I go ballistic.

13 posted on 06/23/2005 11:10:44 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: TheOtherOne
I'll stick with the existing Constitution.

There is no "existing Constitution".

14 posted on 06/23/2005 11:11:49 AM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Normally, statements in the Constitution apply only to the Federal Government. You need language that explicitly applies the Ammendment also to the States.


15 posted on 06/23/2005 11:15:36 AM PDT by sourcery ("Compelling State Interest" is the refuge of judicial activist traitors against the Constitution)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

"Tax on all property, real and personal, except as income or on sale or transfer" needs a clearer statement of what's taxable and what's not.


16 posted on 06/23/2005 11:19:09 AM PDT by sourcery ("Compelling State Interest" is the refuge of judicial activist traitors against the Constitution)
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To: Labyrinthos
I had a co-worker plop the eminent domain article on my desk while I was out to lunch. These guy's know exactly how to get me worked up.
17 posted on 06/23/2005 11:25:16 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

No Constitutional amendment needed. The Supreme Court just ignored the 5th as it is.

We only need the 2nd at this point. It will be the only thing that will stop the outright tyranny.


18 posted on 06/23/2005 11:26:08 AM PDT by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
above one-tenth of one percent per annum shall be prohibited.

"one-tenth of one percent" of what? The assessed value? The market value? The number of pixies inhabiting the land? The amount of wetlands contained within when it rains? And all as defined how?

I suggest that you need to specify this value as is done in California (i.e., the value at the last sale, period).

19 posted on 06/23/2005 11:26:28 AM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: TheOtherOne

You are right to stick with the existing Constitution. If the traitors on the supreme court can nullify the 5th Amendment, they can nullify the whole thing.


20 posted on 06/23/2005 11:26:37 AM PDT by nygoose
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