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Tonight we are no longer a free country (vanity)
6/23/05 | Self

Posted on 06/23/2005 8:06:55 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

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To: bobhoskins
It is time for all good Americans to march to the defense of those whose property was stolen today.

They suffer a corrupt local government and a corrupt national court that supports tyranny.

March to their defense now ! The court may declare marching to be illegal tomorrow.
141 posted on 06/23/2005 9:33:47 PM PDT by Tobor
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To: shellshocked
Sadly, she isn't far from the truth. Now that the governments can take properties, they will seek buyers by all means, perhaps even with a web site and television advertising.

Thanks, you've added a new dimension to my nightmares that I wouldn;t have considered tonight. Everything's fine as long as the government gets it's cut. (Puking smilie here!)

"Come to Town X! We'll find you a wonderful site at low rates for your firm! We'll even help in your "negotiations" for whatever plot of land you like!"

142 posted on 06/23/2005 9:34:21 PM PDT by bobhoskins
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To: aomagrat

Bread and Circuses ping


143 posted on 06/23/2005 9:35:22 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Nicely done, Blood of Tyrants.


144 posted on 06/23/2005 9:35:50 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Tobor
It is time for all good Americans to march to the defense of those whose property was stolen today.

They suffer a corrupt local government and a corrupt national court that supports tyranny.

March to their defense now ! The court may declare marching to be illegal tomorrow.

We should pass resolutions via ballot in EVERY town and city to disallow this practice. We should do so at the state level, too. And, if possible, at the federal level.

If we can pass rules against this in one town, and get nationalcoverage for it, MAYBE a movement will take off.

I may have to look into how to get something like this on the ballot around here ...

145 posted on 06/23/2005 9:37:06 PM PDT by bobhoskins
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To: Paradox
I suggested that we unite with DU at the homes of the plaintiff when the bulldozers come to tear down their houses. Hundreds of us should show up to demonstrate on the properties. 'twould be a "kumbaya" moment between Freepers and DUers, we could have some beer, tell jokes, and at least agree on SOMETHING...

Good lord, I can't belive I am agreeing with most DU'ers on something. But this goes to our CORE. This is some major shit.

I agree, Paradox.

146 posted on 06/23/2005 9:37:07 PM PDT by adaven
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To: Blood of Tyrants

When is the 2nd amendment not a CRIME. If this man stands his ground with a gun in his hand is he a criminal ? I say no.


147 posted on 06/23/2005 9:37:20 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: cyborg; to_zion
Did you see the thread on DU? Talking about a truce with FR over this... Federal Express is delivering iced tea to hell as we speak!

Lol! There was a link on the other thread earlier today. I think this is great that we've found common ground finally. Unfortunately it took the Supreme Communists to screw us out of another constitutional right to do it...

148 posted on 06/23/2005 9:39:19 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!...End Black Collar Crime)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Nine Bin Ladens.
149 posted on 06/23/2005 9:40:36 PM PDT by FreedomAvatar (Gravity is only a theory - Teach the controversy)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

I'm sorely disappointed there is only 147 replies here!! Are we the only people that know? Where is the news on this? Where is the President when we need him? I love my President.......he better answer on this!


150 posted on 06/23/2005 9:41:11 PM PDT by RoseD (Oklahoma)
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To: oceanview
"I certainly don't want my neighbor to be able to claim zoning laws are unconstitutional and turn his house into an adult bookstore"

Do you want private property rights ?

Or do you want government granted privileges to your property ?

You seem to be part of the problem.
151 posted on 06/23/2005 9:42:04 PM PDT by Tobor
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To: Thinkin' Gal
benefits to the community,

Note that the benefits are to the "community", not the individual.

152 posted on 06/23/2005 9:43:26 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (Give Durban a turban)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I think this is great that we've found common ground finally.

If there's ANYTHING to be optimistic about, it's that when we survive this crisis, we MIGHT have found an issue to get through to some of the other side on. They KNOW this court decision is wrong ... we just need them to see and understand WHY it's wrong, and what we need to do to prevent this from happening again.

I think we'll survive this, but it does bother me as it means I'll be wasting time dealing with this issue and not spending it with my family.

153 posted on 06/23/2005 9:44:14 PM PDT by bobhoskins
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To: Lijahsbubbe

Exactly. It takes a village to seize your property.


154 posted on 06/23/2005 9:45:28 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Mulder

Sadly, my money is on Fear Factor. For the majority of Americans. Unless it happens to them, or someone close to them, they won't give a diddly-damn.

Where has been the outrage over local government's willy-nilly seizures of "properties used in the commission of a crime"? Screw all that, man - there's a Jerry Springer rerun comin' on!


155 posted on 06/23/2005 9:45:29 PM PDT by sbelew
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To: Blood of Tyrants

'For over 200 years it was understood that "public use" meant that the ownership would transfer from the private owner to the local, state, or federal government for things such as military bases, roads, schools, prisons, etc. Now, the meaning of "public use" has been altered by 5 people who were never elected to office and in all reality, are completely unaccountable to anyone, to mean privately owned condos, shopping centers, and business parks under the thin guise that those enterprises would contribute more tax money to the coffers, thus increasing the "public good" '

Why do people invest in the US rather than banana republics? Because they know their investment is theirs, that the government will not nationalize their business.

Why do people work? Because they will keep the fruits of their labors. As a corollary, they work less when taxes are high.

The justices err when they contend this policy increases the "public good". Without property rights, individuals have no incentive to build, own or maintain property.


156 posted on 06/23/2005 9:45:49 PM PDT by Tymesup
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To: cyborg

"Did you see the thread on DU? Talking about a truce with FR over this..."

You've GOT to be kidding, right?

If they are upset, too, then maybe we could start a petition to congress and invite those at DU to sign with us.

One of our legal eagle FReepers, (one that has plenty of Constitutional and legislative legal experience), should write the petition (even without DU support, still needs to be done).  IMHO, it should include:

  1. Demand for impeachment of the 5 anti-American Justices.
  2. Demand for restating (redefining and limiting) the power of the SC to strict construction of the Constitution.
  3. Supporting property rights of citizens.
  4. Outlawing ALL eminent domain laws, federal and state, except where extraordinary circumstances exist to protect public health and safety (but not EPA type situations) and then only very limited and narrowly defined.
  5. Outlawing all forfeiture, seizure, and confiscation laws.
  6. Demand to change Senate rules to prevent filibusters of Presidential appointments and make it LAW.

If I've left out anything, add your own thoughts, or offer changes and explanation if you've got good reasons.  Keep it specific to property rights and the SC - don't want to chase off any DU support - that is, if they have finally started to wake up.

157 posted on 06/23/2005 9:46:59 PM PDT by RebelTex (Freedom is everyone's right - and everyone's responsibility!)
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To: RoseD

This was actually the first story on NBC nightly news tonight. Also heard it many time on NPR in the car with my dad on the way home from Boston. They need to show people ready to riot and march for this to get any more attention. Such a sad day.


158 posted on 06/23/2005 9:47:08 PM PDT by to_zion
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To: RoseD

There are sevral threads running on this subject, one with over 600 replies.


159 posted on 06/23/2005 9:47:18 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Pray for us all.)
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To: pax_et_bonum

What if those people in Conn. partnered up with the Native Americans? Kinda be hard for the "other" government to take over.......What do ya think about that???


160 posted on 06/23/2005 9:48:17 PM PDT by RoseD (Oklahoma)
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