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Surviving a Nuclear Attack on Washington, D.C.
National Journal ^ | June 24th 2005 | By Sydney J. Freedberg Jr.

Posted on 06/24/2005 10:54:52 AM PDT by ExSoldier

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To: Dubyous

Guide at the smithsonian, groundskeeper at the memorial are govt employees....

and elementary schools only take field trips to adult theatres and porno art shows where feces soaking in piss is considered high art like the ceiling of the sistine chapel used to be.

Still, you're right, too many innocents...the tradeoff isn't worth it.


181 posted on 06/24/2005 3:34:54 PM PDT by Stopislamnow (Three co-equal branches? Not anymore. Sig heil mein black robed tyrant!)
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To: G32

If they are slick enough to pull that off, I would imagine the military would hit various places just to put them on the same economic footing as we were for about the same amount of time.

Who knows? The National Command Authority is going to want some facts before they launch, and people are going to be down on the first rung of Maslow's hierarchy at that point as well. They'll be more worried about being alive than about whether we whacked the goat fornicators.

Were I President, I might whack China and North Korea. Iran and Syria. Somalia. This sounds strange, but I might also hit Mexico too. I'd conclude that the only way they could move that kind of nuclear material into the US reliably was to move through Mexico. With Fox himself handing out maps and instructions how to get in, plus stadiums full of people chanting 'Death to America' in Mexico City, I'd definitely do it (after calculating the prevailing wind patterns, of course).


182 posted on 06/24/2005 3:38:17 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.)
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To: backtothestreets
Don't allow residential development within the new capital. Keep the residential developments away from the government structures to further security.

That was one of the things we'd thought about as well. No one should live in the new capital except the President and his immediate family, the Marines currently billeted at 8th and I, and the Army's Old Guard.

Nothing but pedestrian traffic allowed on the streets. We'd thought of laying out the pattern as a sort of bullseye shape - concentric rings of broad pedestrian avenues with a N-S, an E-W, a NW-SE, and a NE-SW avenue intersecting. At the center would be the White House, the Supreme Court, and the Capitol Building. Behind each one would be the various governmental agencies. The outermost ring would be where all the monuments, the Smithsonian, the Library of Congress, etc., would be. It's a lot of fun just to try to lay it out.

183 posted on 06/24/2005 3:41:32 PM PDT by Terabitten
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To: ExSoldier

Thanks. Learned some good common sense things.


184 posted on 06/24/2005 3:42:22 PM PDT by blam
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To: RinaseaofDs

I wonder what'll help when they hit Moscow too. They could very well hit China and the middle east. Certainly Chechnya would no longer exist.

Scary times.


185 posted on 06/24/2005 3:44:11 PM PDT by G32
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To: ExSoldier

I would advise all the gun owners in any area attacked to be on the look-out for follow up attacks to disrupt and harrass the first responders. It will be our job to defend against any following (manned) attacks, you become the home guard. There also may be numerous other areas attacked in less devastating ways. Be on the look-out and be prepared. BLOAT.


186 posted on 06/24/2005 3:48:19 PM PDT by blam
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To: ExSoldier

Cripes. That article makes me actually WANT to wear my MOPP suit (at Level 4) around in the 90 degree heat with 100% humidity today. ;)

Thanks for the reminder, Soldier. I am grateful nearly every day for a survival or practical skill I learned in the Army. You never do forget them.


187 posted on 06/24/2005 3:51:29 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Terabitten
I'd bet we could come up with some grand plans if everyone could work together on this.

I'd leave all our monuments and museums where they are now. The present federal buildings should all become historical sites under the control of the Parks Department or the Smithsonian. The influx of tourism to visit the great halls of Congress, the White House, and the many other buildings would probably raise enough revenue to maintain all these buildings and cover the expense of the entire department nationwide.

I figure with 10 square miles, and no residential housing, a new city would have ample space to physically separate the three branches of government. That would further secure our government from being destroyed by a single strike.

Thanks for keeping this thought alive. I'll write more to you later.
188 posted on 06/24/2005 4:16:26 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: G32

This is why ballistic missile defense is still viable. People believe that a nuke attack will be terrorism oriented, and they're probably right. But a massive terrorist attack - five or more cities at once with 15 MT bombs - would definitely take us off the grid economically enough that we'd have to contemplate a ballistic missile counterstrike.

Our ability to launch that counterstrike without subjecting ourselves to one would be a definite benefit.

If we get hit by ANYBODY, I would think that China would be coming across the straight in bathtubs to invade Taiwan.

I'm sure (I hope) people in DC have thought of this, but they better be prepared to fight in 1 major and 1 minor world conflict while sustaining this kind of attack.

Oddly, the military infrastructure would not have suffered much at all under this kind of an attack.

Oddly still, the only country we can't afford to retaliate against is Russia, as they have Ballistic Missile Defense overwhelming ICBM capabilities. More oddly still, they aren't much farther along economically than they were when their empire fell.


189 posted on 06/24/2005 4:30:49 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

I doubt the Russian AMB would even work over Moscow for a few missiles. I bet we have over 200 aimed at it, so that wouldn't be a big deal at all to take it out.

I seriously doubt Russia would deserve to get hit though from us. Depends on how big the exchange gets. If it starts spiraling out of control...


190 posted on 06/24/2005 4:32:58 PM PDT by G32
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To: backtothestreets

I agree with that idea as long as no incumbents move to the new capitol and the new digs are moderate. They dont need anything fancy.


191 posted on 06/24/2005 4:52:45 PM PDT by winodog (We need to pull the fedgov.con's feeding tube)
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To: Jonathan

It would work...for about 3 days.

Right about that point, all the nuclear powers in the world (except Israel and the UK) would wonder if THEY were next on the list...and launch everything they have at us.

There would be NOTHING left, anywhere.

A better idea would be: get Riyahd, Tehran, Damascus, Amman, and Cairo. Drop 5 each on Mecca & Medina. Notify Israel they can do what they want to the Dome of the Rock.

The NCA (whoever it is) would get on a worldwide broadcast and say that unless the living bodies (or the whole dead ones)of all known terrorists are not on planes headed for whatever city they designate within 24 hours, 5 more cities with major Muslim populations would be destroyed.

If they find out the bomb came from China, demand the resignation of the entire Chinese Politburo and the handing over of the government to the US ambassador, OR kiss Shanghai goodbye, and one Chinese city a day until it happens. Same thing applies if it's a Russian bomb...and with the Russians, notify them that if they attempt or even LOOK like attempting a launch against us, it's no-holds barred.

Inform the world that the US has just become the Absolute Power, and someone just crossed the line. One move out of place, and you no longer exist.


192 posted on 06/24/2005 4:56:50 PM PDT by hoagy62 (Revolution is now the ONLY option.)
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To: TChad
Since this scenario is so likely, the federal government should begin dispersal now. Send most or at least some of the legislators home, and let them meet and vote via phones and the Internet.

I'd suggest an alternate scenario: make all the legislators stay within 1000 feet of each other at all times - no exceptions. ;)

193 posted on 06/24/2005 5:08:07 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Violence never settles anything." Genghis Khan, 1162-1227)
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To: JockoManning

Thanks.

Sorry missed U, BTW.


194 posted on 06/24/2005 5:26:23 PM PDT by Quix (LOVE NEVER FAILS.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

>I'd suggest an alternate scenario: make all the legislators stay within 1000 feet of each other at all times - no exceptions. ;)

Recruiting new legislators after every blast might become a bit problematic. Still, I suppose we should consider your suggestion if only for its entertainment value.

I'm actually serious about moving the legislators and the president out of D.C. We are going to have to do it eventually, might as well get started.


195 posted on 06/24/2005 5:58:27 PM PDT by TChad
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To: JAKraig
I think Hillary would survive a nuclear blast.

Only if she was wearing that crusty black pantsuit :lol:. That pantsuit and the cockroaches would be the only things left after a nuclear war...

LQ

196 posted on 06/24/2005 6:22:37 PM PDT by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: ExSoldier

Thanks for posting this article. It*s very important that we all know what to do.


197 posted on 06/24/2005 6:33:54 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (I don*t know what the future holds, but I know who holds the future. His name is Jesus Christ....)
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To: Blzbba
Then, on the 6th day, every single test and data show that the nuke was a ChiComm device and was probably planted by ChiComm or ex-Soviet agents, who are laughing their asses off at America's attack on Iran.

On the 7th Day we nuke China, for having tricked us into killing a billion people, we should have no problem killing another billion people.

On the 8th Day we use the rest of our nuclear arsenal to blackmail and take control of the rest of the world, saying that we will nuke you if you do no follow our orders.

(sarcasm) Once you killed your first billion people, it becomes easier after that.

198 posted on 06/24/2005 7:30:50 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Jonathan

This is unfortunately, exactly what would happen.


199 posted on 06/24/2005 7:42:10 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: JAKraig

"I think Hillary would survive a nuclear blast.
What a shame!"

I think all the Democrats would. After all they say cockroaches can survive a nuclear attack :-)


200 posted on 06/24/2005 7:54:28 PM PDT by Codeograph
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