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High Court to homeowners: Stick 'em up!
Townhall.com ^ | 9/26/2005 | Paul Jacob

Posted on 06/26/2005 5:00:50 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore

It's like a bad dream...But this is real. We live under a regime that can...grab our homes...pays us what it thinks the property's worth, and then hands our property — in finely crafted "sweetheart deals" — to developers...

This is not an isolated case...[t]his is happening all across the nation. Local officials looking to boost their tax take through eminent domain like a vampire looks for fresh neck arteries....

Politicians' lust for money doesn't stop with homeowners and small businesses, though. Churches don't even pay taxes. No revenue stream for politicians at all. Uh-oh....

"We don't oppose churches," Council Chairman Samuel Dean told The Post. "The concern we have is that sometimes churches eat up a lot of land that could be used for other things." ..."None of us are against God." But added: "We're losing tax money and retail." ....

Don't be fooled.. In this case judicial restraint means a general increase in government power....

Certainly, the only meaningful public benefit is more tax dollars collected and spent by politicians. The public gets whatever trickle down benefits come of this government spending. Lucky us.....

They actively expand government power whenever citizens threaten to exert some control over it. And when governments kick John Q. Public in the teeth, the black robes stand aside, in "judicial restraint....."

It reminds us of the fact that while our judicial system has been hijacked, so too have our legislatures and city councils become dens of thieves...

. The Kelo decision tells us how predatory our government has become. The America Dream, cut into and carved up by so many politicians, was this week struck down by the courts. But we're not giving in to them. We must get it back.

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KEYWORDS: eminentdomain; kelo; scotus; turass
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To: Noumenon
This will not stop until those responsible discover that the decision to seize anothers' private property is not survivable.
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From your keyboarrd to God's hard drive. -:)


Clean your muskets and sharpen your pitchforks and get ready to ride to the sound of the guns.(KELO) :o}-

Dems, hello???

We could get out of Vietnam; we can’t GET OUT of terrorism.

21 posted on 06/26/2005 8:22:45 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: oblomov
YES, I have been wearing that tinfoil hat for a while. My lefty friends were always shocked when I agreed vehemently with their claims that we were sinking into "corporatism". The writing's on the wall now.

That's "corporate-socialism", not "corporatism".

22 posted on 06/26/2005 8:26:43 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Quick1
This isn't a liberal vs. conservative issue, there are just as many DUers pissed of about this as there are Freepers.

That's exactly right. As I've said before, they've got a dog in this race, too.

23 posted on 06/26/2005 8:30:37 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA) Wisconsin Hunter Shootings: If you want on/off the WI Hunters ping list, please let me know.)
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To: sirthomasthemore

This was a misguided decision by SCOTUS.

They simply failed to use cost benefit analysis and only looked at the benefit.

Here the benefit is that investment yields commercial developement, jobs and the homeowners get market prices for their property so there is no cost in the narrow view.

Taking a broader view, because everyone's property can now be taken via emminent domain, everyone's property in the entire United States is now worth a little less.

That is the cost the SCOTUS failed to realize.

This is repeated again and again throughout govt. "if we only spent a little more on xyz program, we could get these benefits" They never tell you about the costs which are higher taxes which diminsh work incentive and reduce economic activity.




24 posted on 06/26/2005 8:33:54 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: sirthomasthemore

Thanks for your post. I had NO idea how bad this is. I listen to Neal Boortz a lot and that's where I first learned about this issue. Boortz talks about starting at the local level and slowly getting a citizens group together....that is, to monitor local officials. What do you think about that? We'll pray for your success. Please keep us posted!


25 posted on 06/26/2005 8:45:49 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: sirthomasthemore

YES, we MUST NOT lose ourselves in the partisan blame game. The judges ruling in favor are authoritarians. They are not liberals in any sense of the word. Neither are they conservatives. This decision was a power grab, of, by , and for the government.


26 posted on 06/26/2005 8:56:27 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
After three days, Georgy Porgy Bush II is still absent.

It's becoming obvious to me that Bush feigns conservatism, but what he really is -- as a previous poster put it -- is an elitist.

27 posted on 06/26/2005 8:58:58 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Looks like the Supreme Court wants to play Cowboys and Homeowners.)
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To: staytrue
This was a misguided decision by SCOTUS
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Staytrue,

You make a cogent analysis, and I can't disagree.

Let's just say given my hands on State experience, I've seen first hand where the 3 branches don't check each other, but rather, work in confederation in the service of "government".

As to New London, and just is mere speculation that I've posted before, I wouldn't be surprised if this was a deal by the national governing elite whereby the Submarine Base there would be eliminated, but this "project" would go forward to provide a "lift" to the area and jobs.

Time will tell. But again, good post on your part.



Clean your muskets and sharpen your pitchforks and get ready to ride to the sound of the guns.(KELO) :o}-

Dems, hello??? We could get out of Vietnam; we can’t GET OUT of terrorism.

28 posted on 06/26/2005 9:00:44 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
You should realize that this ruling on property rights (or lack there of) proved the tinfoil hat wearers right in their paranoia against government.

I'm taking my tinfoil off now. This ruling proves I am actually mainstream.

29 posted on 06/26/2005 9:00:59 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Looks like the Supreme Court wants to play Cowboys and Homeowners.)
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To: sirthomasthemore
Voting for incumbents is a major part of the problem.

I have voted for 1 successful incumbent in my life. That person is the current president and my vote after all did not count because I live in a so called "blue state.".

I'll never again vote to reelect anyone to any political office.
30 posted on 06/26/2005 9:02:16 PM PDT by Radix (I was looking for a Tag Line when I found this one!)
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To: sirthomasthemore
High Court to homeowners: Stick 'em up!

Homeowners to High Court: Stick it where the sun don't shine.

31 posted on 06/26/2005 9:04:34 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: oblomov
This decision was a power grab, of, by , and for the government.

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You've got it! :)


Clean your muskets and sharpen your pitchforks and get ready to ride to the sound of the guns.(KELO) :o}-

Dems, hello???

We could get out of Vietnam; we can’t GET OUT of terrorism.

32 posted on 06/26/2005 9:05:31 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: Noumenon

They can have my land, when they take the deed from my cold dead hands, but they'll be looking down the barrel of a S&W (pre PC S&W purchase--and as with anything like that w/ me, used) .38 snubnose before that...

If they start really abusing this newfound power, we may have to do like some brave GIs did in a corrupt Tennessee town years ago--take up arms against the government..

BTW, though we're right too, the DUmmies are right also--this is FASCISM. Of course except for the leanings on issues along the political spectrum, fascism and communism are ideological paternal twins. Cast from the same root, but taking divergent routes, that the common man is too stupid to be trusted with their daily lives in their control, needing a philosopher-king (to use the carefully nuanced words of Plato) to rule over them, whether it be the Duce or the Commissar. Both deny the dignity of the individual and put one group or another outside of the relam of acceptability in their respective societies. In fascist Italy it was democrats (small D), in Nazi Germany it was principally (though not limited to) jewish people, in the Soviet Union it was Christians, capitalists, those who believed in a pluralist society, etc.

But anyone that tries to come in to take my property better have a plot ready already.


33 posted on 06/26/2005 9:05:42 PM PDT by Schwaeky ("Truth is not determined by Majority vote"-- Pope Benedict XVI)
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To: Radix
Voting for incumbents is a major part of the problem.
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Radix,
Have you got that right! Here, in Ct, John Rowland was an EXCELLANT man. But, the inherent corruption in government ate him up. It was a damn shame. But, the point is, over and over, the same thing happens to many, many well intentioned people. They just become part of the system.


Clean your muskets and sharpen your pitchforks and get ready to ride to the sound of the guns.(KELO) :o}-

Dems, hello???

We could get out of Vietnam; we can’t GET OUT of terrorism.

34 posted on 06/26/2005 9:11:20 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: oblomov
This decision was a power grab, of, by , and for the government.

I thought this was a land grab for private usage.

A land grab for government usage is what is now considered good around here. Ya know. The more urban renewal projects that are publically(government) owned the better.

Right???

35 posted on 06/26/2005 9:18:42 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: traviskicks

It's just crazy enough to work!


36 posted on 06/26/2005 9:36:45 PM PDT by Quick1
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To: FreeReign

Well, it is a land grab by well-heeled interests through the instrument of local government. It is a power grab by government because they hold the power of eminent domain, and that power has been expanded.


37 posted on 06/26/2005 9:41:08 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
monitor local officials
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Recovering, Glad you recovered! :)

Ideally, monitoring local officials, would be the solution. Unfortunately, the Court just gave these public officials a "get out of corruption free" card.

That is, say like you openly opposed someone for Mayor of your community. Then, let's assume, the Mayor sees a chance to make more tax revenue for the locality by acquiring property in your neighborhood, including yours.

Up to this point, you might have fought back by arguing that that the Mayor's action was merely a vendetta against you. But now, all the Mayor has to prove is that the project will benefit the tax revenue of the City. It's criminal.

It seems far fetched, but the legal mechanism is now there- and it is serious. People might now not realize it, until they themselves are confronted by it. But honestly, it is the most egregious abuse of elite/governing authority since WACO- and that was, more or less, and isolated occurrence.

But, in any event, thank you in advance for your prayers. As to my cases, I'll need them. :) And certainly, I will remember you and yours in mine tonight.


Clean your muskets and sharpen your pitchforks and get ready to ride to the sound of the guns.(KELO) :o}-

Dems, hello???

We could get out of Vietnam; we can’t GET OUT of terrorism.

38 posted on 06/26/2005 9:41:52 PM PDT by sirthomasthemore (I go to my execution as the King's humble servant, but God's first!)
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To: sirthomasthemore

How about outrage from a GOP Mayor of a major muncipality
Fat chance..All the local politicians are seeing $$$$$
Im sure Home Depot and Marshalls and other BIG store moguls are already checking ou tpossibilities and are out on the golf course as we speak with local mayors and such opportunist , looking to make a deal..Im getting more and more disgusted by our politicians as time goes on..Republicans included..We now have a govt. of professional money grabbers..There are NO statesmen left..Not a one


39 posted on 06/26/2005 9:44:59 PM PDT by hineybona
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To: FreeReign

government usage means private contractors , equals big money for the right person..The possibility for corruption is massive here.Someone close to me works for a myor in a North NJ town..He's ALREADY drooling at the possibilitys here..Dump some local homes and get in the BI BIG BIG $$$$ mall planners ( of course , there is a little SOMETHING in there for the mayor for his cooperation).The mayor wants to retire in 3 years as a rich man ..here's his chance..
You think these local political hacks give 2 flying craps about the"community"?.This is an outrage..


40 posted on 06/26/2005 9:50:21 PM PDT by hineybona
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