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SCHLUSSEL: "War of Worlds" Spielberg-esque Message: Don't Fight Terror
DebbieSchlussel.com ^ | June 28, 2005 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 06/28/2005 10:32:17 AM PDT by Cool Chick

"War of the Worlds" Spielberg-esque Message: Don't Fight Terror

By Debbie Schlussel

I'm violating Steven Spielberg's review policy for "War of the Worlds" and telling you what I think ahead of tomorrow's scheduled release date. I saw the movie at a press screening, last night, and was disturbed by the message: Don't fight terror, and everything will work out. (Security was literally tighter than that for going to the White House to meet the President. No purses allowed. Three wandings by security.)

It's bad enough that Steven Spielberg is adding "balance" and factual inaccuracy to the story of the Israeli Mossad's efforts to assassinate terrorists who killed Israeli Olympic athletes--in his upcoming film, "Vengeance" (I've detailed that here). It's bad enough that his message in "Vengeance" is that fighting terrorists and killing them is bad and doesn't work. But his similar message in "War of the Worlds" is arguably worse--because the movie, with fantastic special effects, is likely to be one of his bigger hits.

Spielberg said "War of the Worlds" is a parallel for 9/11 and serves as a "prism" through which to view 9/11, the War on Terror, and our presence in Iraq. The movie makes that very clear. People running from exploding and falling buildings, walls and kiosks covered with "missing" signs and pictures for those looking for lost relatives, people giving blood -- these are all 9/11 references.

But the message is: Don't fight terrorism. It will miraculously go away if you leave it alone and it breaths our air and culture. Puh-leeze. I'm sure Roger Ebert will just love it.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 06/28/2005 10:32:19 AM PDT by Cool Chick
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To: Cool Chick

Hate to say this, but it's just being true to the book in this case.


2 posted on 06/28/2005 10:34:47 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Taglines are supposed to have meaning?)
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To: Cool Chick
David Koepp says, "Certainly, there are a lot of political undertones and overtones. The political tones of this movie will emerge for themselves. In the '50s, 'War of the Worlds' was, 'My God, the commies are coming to get us.'

What an insipid statement. One can only conclude that he never read the book by H. G. Wells.

3 posted on 06/28/2005 10:35:21 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: SlowBoat407

I do believe, though, that there was some thanks in the book to someone named... Gad? Ged?

Oh yeah... God.


4 posted on 06/28/2005 10:35:46 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Taglines are supposed to have meaning?)
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To: SlowBoat407

My thought exactly. As Wells had it, we're useless against Them -- but Mother Nature isn't.

He was a splendidly imaginative writer.


5 posted on 06/28/2005 10:37:22 AM PDT by JennysCool (In a perfect world, where everything is equal, I own the film rights and am working on the sequel)
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To: Cool Chick
Someone needs to tell Debbie the real life Democrats' response to the situation in Iraq is exactly just that: don't fight Al Qaeda. Give up and throw in the towel. Oh and for heaven's sakes, they'd do doubt like us to adopt a "Be Nice To A Suicide Bomber Day." Real life is uncannily imitating Steven Spielberg's newest movie. For its worth, could someone please tell me again what all the liberal angst about Karl Rove's comments were about the liberal attitude to terrorism? Sounds like they believe in a lot of therapy and diplomacy towards the Bad Guys. No Rambo firepower displays for them.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
7 posted on 06/28/2005 10:37:51 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: SlowBoat407

Is there anything in the book about insurgencies making it so that occupation will never work? That's a quote from the movie, according to Schlussel. Read her whole column. Very interesting.


8 posted on 06/28/2005 10:37:59 AM PDT by Cool Chick
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To: Cool Chick
It will miraculously go away if you leave it alone and it breaths our air and culture.

That's pretty much how Hitler was defeated, right? No need to actually read a history book or view the History Channel. Spielberg has the answers regarding human nature. Or at least some nice production values. And it is nice to be nice.

9 posted on 06/28/2005 10:40:24 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: Cool Chick

There is mention of humans going underground and fighting with whatever means they have, including a guerilla-style warfare, If I recall correctly.


10 posted on 06/28/2005 10:40:41 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Taglines are supposed to have meaning?)
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To: Cool Chick
CAUTION: SPOILER

For a significant part of the movie, Ray Ferrier (Tom Cruise) and his daughter are holed up in an old basement with Ogilvy (Tim Robbins). Robbins' character wants to fight the outer-space invaders or at least die trying. Ray doesn't want to. He just wants to be silent and wait it out. Because he and Ogilvy are at odds over the strategy to fight the alien terrorists, Ray murders Ogilvy. And magically, the invaders eventually die and go away at the end of the film because, as narrator Morgan Freeman says, they could not handle the bad things in our air, our environment, our culture. Our "spirit" won out over them.

Barf.`

11 posted on 06/28/2005 10:41:53 AM PDT by Petronski (Be alert! The world needs more lerts.)
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To: SlowBoat407

I will have to see the movie myself, but her description makes it sound like that is not the case in this movie, that there is no underground warfare because Cruise kills the Robbins character who wants to do that.


12 posted on 06/28/2005 10:42:26 AM PDT by Cool Chick
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To: SlowBoat407

I believe the original premise of the book was that no matter how powerful we think we are, there's always going to be someone bigger. His ultimate irony was that the bigger, stronger, smarter enemy was brought down by the smallest among us.

Anyone see Lord of the Rings?


13 posted on 06/28/2005 10:42:31 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Taglines are supposed to have meaning?)
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To: SlowBoat407

Yep. Methinks the reviewer doth protest too much.


14 posted on 06/28/2005 10:42:36 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: SlowBoat407
The Democrats solution to Al Qaeda in Iraq is wiggle our bums and hope we don't get blown up.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
15 posted on 06/28/2005 10:42:51 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Cool Chick

As I said, it's been a while since I read the book so I cannot say with any certainty how accurate that is. Much as I hate to admit it, I will probably go to see just so I can make my own assessment.


16 posted on 06/28/2005 10:44:19 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Taglines are supposed to have meaning?)
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To: Cool Chick

Great, sounds like another hollywood blockbuster film I won`t/don`t want to see. One day maybe they will get me back, but if they keep pumping out these horrid , agenda laden films, I will keep my money and stay away.


17 posted on 06/28/2005 10:45:32 AM PDT by Peace will be here soon
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To: goldstategop

Sadly, there are number of people out there who call themselves Americans who believe that we should take whatever comes without complaining or fighting back, simply because "we brought it on ourselves, and this is our payback."


18 posted on 06/28/2005 10:46:01 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Taglines are supposed to have meaning?)
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To: Petronski

So what they are saying is if we kill Tim Robbins the aliens will all die. I can live with that.


19 posted on 06/28/2005 10:46:41 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Cool Chick
The early German world premiere reviews said that the beginning 60-80 minutes of 'War of the Worlds' are borderline good/great.

But the last 20-30 minutes were a disaster. I'm assuming this is the part that Debbie is talking about.

20 posted on 06/28/2005 10:47:05 AM PDT by news blogger
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To: Cool Chick

I can't wait for this one, supposed to be very good and intense. The political handwringing by Debbie here is laughable. Get a grip lady.


21 posted on 06/28/2005 10:47:31 AM PDT by G32
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To: Cool Chick

Strangely enough, for Tom Cruise this movie fits in the category of "non-fiction".


22 posted on 06/28/2005 10:48:21 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Taglines are supposed to have meaning?)
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I'll trust a FReeper's interpretation of this movie before Ebert or any other critic.


23 posted on 06/28/2005 10:48:35 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Petronski

WOAH! Robbins is in this movie?

That nails it. Not going.


24 posted on 06/28/2005 10:50:10 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Petronski
I'd guess that in Spielberg's Book of Exodus, Aaron, the peace-lover, gets really upset with his brother Moses's constant hectoring "Let's get out of here already!".

So dangerous does Aaron come to view Moses (in this Spielbergian translation) that Aaron kills Moses. "Enough!" cries Aaron has he drives the lance through his brother.

And then -- magically -- Pharaoh dies and the Egyptians are filled with love for the Hebrews, so much that they open their treasury to the Tribe of Israel so as to esrablish plantations in the Land of Canaan.

What a bad dream Steven Spielberg is the naker of.

25 posted on 06/28/2005 10:53:18 AM PDT by bvw
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To: SlowBoat407

Not really. The steam ram, HMS Thunderchild got a pretty sympathetic treatment.


26 posted on 06/28/2005 10:58:04 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: SlowBoat407; JennysCool; Cool Chick
Mystery Scientology Theater They came from within: How War of the Worlds anticipated the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard
27 posted on 06/28/2005 10:59:01 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: SlowBoat407

In LoTR Frodo prevails to Mt. Doom because of his desire to be rid of the ring, combined with the help from outside in the form of the new king of Gondor coming to challenge Sauron. (Of course even there he's unable to resist the lure of power and poor Smeagol has to take the dive). But Frodo has to go right into the heart of the enemy's power through danger and struggle and temptation.

That's a long long way from "do nothing, relax, and the problem will cure itself, man." That sort of approach was illustrated in LoTR (the movies, not the book) when Pip suggested they just give up and go home and leave everything for someone else to deal with. The closest JRRT himself gets to that is the bit in the Silmarillion where the 'Valar' call the Elves to Aman and abandon Middle-Earth in the first age (but really that sequence is more of a allegorical rejection of Deism IMO).

The 'nature will take care of what man cannot' is a theme in War of the Worlds, but don't extend it to Tolkein's work, please.


28 posted on 06/28/2005 11:01:38 AM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: Cool Chick

"Spielberg said "War of the Worlds" is a parallel for 9/11 and serves as a "prism" through which to view 9/11, the War on Terror, and our presence in Iraq."

So he's saying we should fight the Iraqi terrorists with germ warfare? Wow!


29 posted on 06/28/2005 11:03:23 AM PDT by Moral Hazard (...but when push comes to shove, you've got to do what you love, even if it's not a good idea.)
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To: SlowBoat407
I think you are right. H.G. Wells was in real life a Pacifist, Socialist, etc..
He would wholly applaud that type of message.
It is interesting that Wells had a long life and did live long enough to witness both World Wars and the invention of the Atom bomb that he had previously written about.
I would suspect he was a very disappointed man when he died and yet still could not grasp the real truth.
It is amazing that the Hollywood Liberals and their Eastern Elitist Brothers think that by being passive and giving in that all of our enemies will go away and leave us.
These people hate us and it is an unreasonable hate but hate it is and turning the other cheek only emboldens these people more not less.
Hollywood can continue to be Anti-Amercian and everything else but then again I don't have to watch and spend my money supporting Spielberg and his colleagues.
They wonder why the Box Office is down it may be simply that they have given us bad movies and when you continually bash those that live in the Red States, the people there get even and quit supporting your product.
These people will never learn and I feel no sorrow for them at all.
30 posted on 06/28/2005 11:05:08 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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"(but really that sequence is more of a allegorical rejection of Deism IMO). "

Unlikely considering Tolkien's stated hatred for allegory.
31 posted on 06/28/2005 11:05:41 AM PDT by Moral Hazard (...but when push comes to shove, you've got to do what you love, even if it's not a good idea.)
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To: JennysCool

Which was a very similar theme in "Independence Day," where it was a "computer virus," not a virus, that kills the aliens.


32 posted on 06/28/2005 11:07:48 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: Petronski

Hmmm... so Ray kills someone who stands in his way, and yet remains passive against aliens? Yep, sounds like a Clinton liberal plot to me.


33 posted on 06/28/2005 11:08:17 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Cool Chick
Well, Spielberg's buddy Lucas made a movie that says getting angry over injustice and trying to protect the women you love will turn you into an evil child killing monster so does this really surprise anyone? Ugh.
34 posted on 06/28/2005 11:09:23 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Captain Peter Blood

H.G. Wells was also one of the first male feminists. Brilliant, yet decidely kooky.


35 posted on 06/28/2005 11:10:04 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Hate to say it, but Debbie is off kilter this time. Speilberg's WOTW is true to the source material (and by extension to both Orson Welles and George Pal's versions).

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

36 posted on 06/28/2005 11:11:45 AM PDT by mhking (The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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To: JennysCool
Well I'll take a positive spin off the reason the aliens left: our globalization, corporate greed empire's affect on the air and climate ultimately saved planet Earth and human kind from aliens.

Environmentalism takes a hit here, not President Bush. Jackasses wrote themselves into a quagmire again!

37 posted on 06/28/2005 11:11:57 AM PDT by rintense
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To: rintense
H.G. Wells was also one of the first male feminists. Brilliant, yet decidely kooky.

Wasn't he also an advocate of free love? Didn't any female feminists ever wonder why so many sex addicted males who don't want to commit to any one woman seem to be feminists and support things like abortion?

38 posted on 06/28/2005 11:15:25 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: rintense

Yes I think I knew that but had forgotten. I always liked that film Malcolm McDowell was in, "Time After Time" which was pretty good where he played H.G. Wells.


39 posted on 06/28/2005 11:16:26 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: SlowBoat407

Out of curiosity, have you actually seen the movie yet? She has, and I'm inclined to believe her that the movie will contain plenty of not-so-subtle political overtones that have little to do with the fictional novel. Spielberg is definitely a leftie, and it would be par for the course for Hollywood.


40 posted on 06/28/2005 11:16:46 AM PDT by jpl
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To: jpl

I have not seen the movie, and I have no doubt that contains a great many jabs at the politics of today. However, in order to maintain some credibility with complaints, it's important that we not overreact, but instead target those areas in which we know we have some valid complaint.

What I read in her column was, in large, a brief overview of my recollection of the book, but she was treating it as new material.


41 posted on 06/28/2005 11:20:33 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (Taglines are supposed to have meaning?)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

I like the original 'Time Machine'.


42 posted on 06/28/2005 11:22:05 AM PDT by rintense
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To: rintense

Yes much better.


43 posted on 06/28/2005 11:23:09 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: mhking

the fact that Robbins is in it, playing a "let's beat 'em or die trying" tough-guy, gives me pause.

I might not see it.

counter: Cruise has impressed me recently (Last Samurai and Collateral), and that little girl rocked in Man On Fire.


44 posted on 06/28/2005 11:25:16 AM PDT by King Prout (I'd say I missed ya, but that'd be untrue... I NEVER MISS)
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To: jpl
I would hope that a right-sided movie reviewer will see the movie, describe the original political intent of Speilberg, and then rip the movie apart by pointing out the obvious hypocrisy. Shouldn't be that hard. Many items have already been pointed out- two by me, and I haven't even seen the movie yet!
45 posted on 06/28/2005 11:26:10 AM PDT by rintense
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To: Cool Chick

Generally speaking, I am not all that interested in what a Scientologist has to say about war, peace, God, sci-fi or aliens.


46 posted on 06/28/2005 11:28:23 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES!!)
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To: bvw
Spielberg's Book of Exodus, Aaron, the peace-lover, gets really upset with his brother Moses's constant hectoring

That's pretty much how Aaron was portrayed in "Prince of Egypt." Wimpy, timid wuss. Also to pander to the feminists, Moses' wife Zipporah had a bigger role in the Exodus than Aaron, even though in the actual Bible she stayed home with the kids.

47 posted on 06/28/2005 11:30:27 AM PDT by Alouette (The only thing learned from history is that nobody ever learns from history.)
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To: Little Ray

The chances of anything coming from Mars, are a million to one, they said.


48 posted on 06/28/2005 11:30:52 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: G32
Get a grip lady.

Not likely. Her whole career depends on not getting a grip.

49 posted on 06/28/2005 11:31:21 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Don't fight terrorism. It will miraculously go away if you leave it alone when it breaths our air and culture

Gee you'd have thought that would have worked in France after the Nazis occupied it,I mean Germans are efficiency control freaks, the French unions take coffee breaks during their coffee breaks......

I guess Spielberg would have shot the French resistance huh.....but wasn't like Schindler a hero? Steven is confused methinks....I wonder is Steven a Zionist or anti Zionist, how come Israelis cture hasn't driven the Palestinians away


50 posted on 06/28/2005 11:34:25 AM PDT by littlelilac
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