And they stand out like sore thumbs in the desert.
OBA!
Posted on 06/29/2005 8:36:23 PM PDT by Altair333
BRAÚNAS, Brazil - For years, Jaider de Andrade, a 35-year-old farm worker, talked about going to the United States to look for work, and early in March he finally agreed to a trafficker's offer to fly him to Mexico and have him guided across the border there. By month's end, though, he was back home here again, in a coffin. "His dream had always been for us to have a little house of our own, but he never could make enough here to get ahead," his widow, Nilce Aparecida Moreira da Silva, said at the couple's homestead. "He knew there was some risk, but he wasn't nervous, because he saw that so many other people from around here had gone and done well in the United States." Encouraged by highly organized groups of smugglers offering relatively cheap packages, Brazilians recently have been migrating in record numbers to the United States.
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Desperately searching for some bright side to this story, I was glad to see that the Brazilians coming here are the lower middle class, not the absolute dregs of Brazilian society, like we're getting with Mexico. I've heard some talk that these Brazilian immigrants have more potential to assimilate than most of the Mexicans.
I speak Portuguese and work with Brazilian immigrants, about 80%-90% illegal.
Anybody who lives in Boston or Framingham, MA is not surprised by this. Not to mention Orlando, NYC, Marietta GA, Fort Myers, Miami, LA....
I think the biggest problem is many seem to treat the US like a big playground.
BTTT
The Brazilians have made incredible inroads up here in New England. If the intel services had any desire, they could check out the travel agencies catering to people from Brazil. Hard to take the government series some times.
"I think the biggest problem is many seem to treat the US like a big playground."
What do you mean? What quality people are they- do they work hard and try to learn the language? Do they plan to stay permanently?
My nephew works at a fast food place and he is friends with a Brazilian kid that barely speaks English, I wouldn't doubt if he and his family are Illegal aliens.
He is a good hardworking kid.
Are they here legally? If not, none of your other questions are relevant.
You're an optimist. I doubt our generation will get to enjoy American culture much longer.
No doubt the free traitors will be overjoyed.
/liberal-hysterics sarcasm
"Are they here legally? If not, none of your other questions are relevant."
Since the government has no intention of deporting them regardless, it is very relevant. It's the difference between us having the country filled up with people who are going to be in street gangs and people who are going to assimilate and become productive citizens.
"I doubt our generation will get to enjoy American culture much longer."
And the thing is, we can't even publically proclaim our distress about this without being called racist. It's just an article of faith that all cultures are equally valid and that we should be tickled pink by whatever refuse of Mexican society gets thrown on our doorstop.
I'm glad England, Australia and New Zealand are islands- at least Anglo-Saxon culture will endure somewhere on earth.
And they stand out like sore thumbs in the desert.
OBA!
Yes, many do try to learn the language, at least in comparison to Mexicans... Yes, they very work hard. And they are a bit more educated and cosmopolitan than other groups from Latin America.
I think they are an ideal immigrant group, but the percentage of illegality (it is definitely is one of the highest) creates a lot of problems. Also, many are not interested in assimilating, just making some quick cash and return to Brazil. They have a very high turnover.
SEALING THE BORDER HAS BEEN PROVEN IMPOSSIBLE
We tried to seal 66 miles of the border in 1994 in “Operation Gate Keeper” designed by the military. It incorporated double and triple fences (some concrete and steel), guard towers, flood lights infrared cameras, ground sensors, patrol roads, horse patrols, ATV patrols, 16 helicopters, fixed wing aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, trucks, and a ratio of 32 guards per mile.
If it was successful the plan was to extend it from San Diego to El Paso. It wasn’t successful at all. See Inspector General’s Report ”experienced agents were estimating it was only 5-10 percent effective”
About two hundred thousand are caught each year trying to cross, and another estimated 30 to 40 thousand make it across undetected. They dig under, climb over and break through the fences.
That’s an average of 454 to 606 per mile per year. Extrapolated just to the 2000 mile Mexican border that would be about 1.2 million border jumpers per year. And we would still have the ones who enter from Canada or by air and water or legally on temporary visas and don’t
It's relevant only if you accept that as just the way it is.
I think you're right. Greece has been unable to stop hundreds of thousands of Albanian from crossing into their country even though the Greek public is irate about the situation and the Greek-Albanian border is tiny compared to the US-Mexican border.
If we start fining employers some serious money that will help a great deal, however.
This is the hypocrisy that pisses me off. Brazil, Mexico, these huge countries with substantial economies are encouraging people to come here and then playing dumb. You know about the novela that Globo is running right now? America. There is no way any American could get away with the same types of things in these countries.
But how can you blame them? The US refuses to enforce the laws. If I were President, I would either enforce the law or make sure that we get something in return for these billions in remittances. In Brazil's case, they are screwing up our trade iniatives and bad-mouthing our foreign policy; it's nuts...
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