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Nichols responds to 'Third Terrorist' evidence-(media, gov't finally acknowledging OK City & terror)
WORLD NET DAILY.COM ^ | JUNE 30, 2005 | Staff Writer

Posted on 06/30/2005 11:24:54 AM PDT by CHARLITE

After a meeting with convicted Oklahoma City bomber Terry Nichols, a U.S. congressman reaffirmed evidence of a Middle East connection to the 1995 attack.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif. – who has publicly vowed to address unanswered questions about the bombing – went with a staff aid to the super-maximum security prison in Florence, Colo., where Nichols is serving 161 consecutive life sentences, according to the Northeast Intelligence Network, a private, counter-terrorist research and investigation group.

In his quizzing of Nichols, the congressman relied heavily on the investigative work of journalist Jayna Davis and her book, "The Third Terrorist: The Middle Eastern Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing," published by WND Books.

Davis asserts Nichols and Timothy McVeigh were not the lone conspirators but were part of a greater scheme involving Islamic terrorists and at least one provable link to Iraq.

As WorldNetDaily reported, Rohrabacher has said he is "deeply disturbed" that the FBI did not follow up on affidavits Davis turned over to the bureau from 22 witnesses supporting evidence that Iraqi intelligence agents infiltrated the United States to recruit and assist McVeigh and Nichols.

Davis spoke with Rohrabacher after his visit with Nichols and gave a tape of her conversation to Northeast Intelligence Network Director Douglas Hagmann.

The congressman told Davis: "Yours is the only game in town that has any evidence."

Nichols acknowledged the existence of John Doe No. 2 – the alleged third terrorist – but stopped short of identifying him, claiming he "did not want to speculate."

However, according to Rohrabacher, Nichols said "he thought other people [beyond Nichols and Timothy McVeigh] were involved" in the Oklahoma City bombing.

"Timothy McVeigh on a number of occasions, had talked about Middle Easterners," Rohrabacher told Davis. "Terry didn't say anything that would dispel the theory, the central theory of your research, which is these people [witnesses featured in "The Third Terrorist"] actually saw Tim McVeigh and he was with Arabs, and these are the people that you tracked down."

Rohrabacher, chairman of the House Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, said Nichols did not say anything that would undercut Davis' finding of a definitive Middle Eastern connection to the bombing.

The congressman said Nichols "didn't do anything that would in any way ... counter the witnesses that you have dug up and put on the record."

The witnesses provided sworn affidavits to Davis and Chicago-based attorney David Schippers, who served as chief investigative counsel to the House Judiciary Committee for the impeachment trial of former President Clinton.

Schippers also prosecuted a number of high-profile organized crime figures under U.S. Attorney General Robert Kennedy.

After conducting lengthy videotaped interviews with more than a dozen of Davis' confidential witnesses in May, Schippers stated: "Given the credibility of these witnesses, I could get an indictment with just one day of testimony before a grand jury."

Former CIA director James Woolsey also has found the witness statements accumulated by Davis to be credible, including many who attested to observing Middle Eastern nationals in the company of McVeigh and at the Murrah building at the time of the bombing.

Rohrabacher told Davis: "Your evidence remains the heaviest"

Despite the information he received from Nichols, the congressman told Davis he still was "in no hurry" to convene congressional hearings, but said he wanted to see more of her evidence.

As WND reported, on the 10th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, in April, Rohrabacher asked in a House-floor speech why the FBI ignored strong evidence of a Middle East connection to the attack.

Rohrabacher said at the time that if the FBI does not provide satisfactory answers to his questions, he will call for congressional hearings.

Two years ago, on the eve of U.S. action in Iraq, Davis' reporting on the Oklahoma City bombing was vindicated when the U.S. 10th Circuit Court of Appeals dismissed a lawsuit filed against her after finding "defendants did not recklessly disregard the truth" in reporting on an Iraqi soldier's alleged involvement in the bombing.

Read WorldNetDaily's extensive coverage of the Oklahoma City bombing case.http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=29290


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To: CHARLITE
but Clinton slyly left the "hard work" for his successor, and now, none of the Clinton Kool Aid drinkers want to remember how incompetent and negligent he was in confronting this massive evil and major threat to our country.

Your far too kind. Remember, not only did he kick the global terror can down the road, the SOB tried to turn the deaths of 160-odd people to his political advantage by blaming the political right.

Stained dresses, etc we can forget. But we should never forget this.

41 posted on 06/30/2005 11:53:30 AM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: Peach

Jayna will be on this thread soon.


42 posted on 06/30/2005 11:53:47 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: CHARLITE
Saddam had already attempted to retaliate for his drubbing in '91 in the attempted assassination of George H. W. Bush. The '93 WTC bombing also had indications of Iraqi involvement. Saddam obviously had motive to strike back at us, and with potential surrogates like al-Qaida, he had the ability to hit us without any evidence pointing to him.

The lesson of 9-11, of course, was that even without WMD, without missiles to deliver the payload, we could be hit and hit hard by someone who wished to do so, and that someone could easily remain anonymous. Not only do those on the Left not grasp this obvious lesson, they insist that we ignore the implications.

I remain convinced that the reason we all seemed to be together on that day is because we were all afraid. For those of us on the right, our fear turned to anger, and those on the left, realizing that American capitalism had been the target, harbored no anger in their hearts, thus the split to where we are today.

43 posted on 06/30/2005 11:54:46 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Ladysmith
Jayna and Dave are two of my favorite heros. I love them for their dedication.

Clinton is SURELY ordered that the FBI refuse the affidavits Jayna tried to deliver to their doorstep DURING the Oklahoma Bombing fiasco.

Wonder what Clinton and his dirty mob of trailer trash advisors think about when they see the memorial chairs in Okla...especially the ones with childrens' names written upon them?

An Iraqi connection to Okla?

Interesting.

Would love to have this ponderous probability slammed into the snotty mugs of Pelosi and Kerry and Kennedy and Durbin and Frank and hitlery and McCain and Hagel and Boxer and Dean and the rest of the menatally disturbed rinos and socialists who put themselves above the truth.

44 posted on 06/30/2005 11:55:37 AM PDT by Republic (Our Father in Heaven touched the Pope, who KNEW of Terri, Terri got her mass, VATICAN STYLE!)
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To: CHARLITE
2006 WILL BE JAYNA'S YEAR!


45 posted on 06/30/2005 11:55:54 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: CHARLITE

Jayna and Dave are great Americans.


46 posted on 06/30/2005 11:56:49 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: CHARLITE

You're almost right. Clinton for sure did not want to provoke a public outcry for war with Iraq or an investigation by the new Republican Congress into how his Administration allowed ME terrorists into the country. But the larger reason he covered this up was that it was so incredibly useful for him to pin the whole thing on Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols. They were apprehended so fast, and had ties to the militia movement and other right-wing groups that were manna from heaven for an embattled president. It was easy for the ultra-political White House to see that they had just been handed a huge gift, but it would all be messed up if it could be traced back to Iraq. The public would have seen the connection between the first World Trade Center bombing and Oklahoma City, and blamed Clinton for not doing enough after the WTC bombing to root out foreign terrorists. He would have been toast in 1996. So they stopped the FBI from investigating any ME connection. The coverup of the Oklahoma City bombing saved Clinton's presidency.


47 posted on 06/30/2005 11:57:18 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (No government will EVER take my house from me!!)
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To: truthaboveall

Okay, when does al-Hussani appear on TV in an orange jumpsuit?


48 posted on 06/30/2005 11:57:28 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: CHARLITE

I must be unable to read and/or must be quite dense. Can anyone point to anything Nichols said in his conversation with Rohrabacher to supports Jayna's theory? What I got was that Nichols said nothing to contradict the theory (which is true because Nichols said nothing). That's a far cry from supporting her theory, though.


49 posted on 06/30/2005 11:57:36 AM PDT by dmz
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To: CHARLITE

There is still a terrorist cell in Oklahoma City as well as many other cities.


50 posted on 06/30/2005 11:58:17 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: CHARLITE

Bump


51 posted on 06/30/2005 12:01:26 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: CHARLITE
MIDI - BETTY DAVIS EYES

Expert on OKC...she has it all
This woman is the key...she knows who's been dropping the ball
Oh, yes, she nailed the story...some are quite afraid
There is much more to tell...by officials it’s been downplayed

She's persistent...they're resistant
All her work has been consistent
Like Columbo...she is pressing on
Forever, she’s insistent

(You watch) She’ll never let the story die…Jayna knows the lies

Where has John Doe 2 gone…we ought to know
When this dam finally breaks…FBI, it’s look out below
Tell us, al-Hussani…about your good pal Tim
Was that you in the truck…had you been escaping with him

She's persistent...they're resistant
All her work has been consistent
Like Columbo...she is pressing on
Forever, she’s insistent

(You watch) She’ll never let the story die…Jayna knows the lies

She's persistent...they're resistant
All her work has been consistent
Like Columbo...she is pressing on
Forever, she’s insistent

(You watch) She’ll never let the story die…Jayna knows the lies

She’s persistent…they’re resistant…still insistent
‘Cause Jayna Davis knows all the lies

She’s persistent…they’re resistant…still insistent
‘Cause Jayna Davis knows all the lies

52 posted on 06/30/2005 12:01:55 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: doug from upland

I'll try to stick around...


53 posted on 06/30/2005 12:02:59 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Czar

If people knew the truth about OKC, they support for the war in Iraq would go through the roof. Democrats just can't have that.


54 posted on 06/30/2005 12:03:40 PM PDT by Peach
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To: cwb
"My own personal view on the cover-up is that Clinton didn't want to deal with global terrorism, or with the growing necessity for dealing with Saddam Hussein."

I'd guess that OKC was just too juicy an opportunity for partisan political advantage for Bubba and the Rats, especially at a point when the Republicans had just taken over both houses of Congress for the first time in 40 years. Recall how Clinton and his spin machine implied that everyone from Gingrich to Limbaugh was responsible for the "far right wing" terrorism at OKC. If it had come to light that it was really Saddam behind OKC, Clinton and the Rats would have been sunk permanently. Hence, the cover-up.

55 posted on 06/30/2005 12:03:41 PM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: cwb

Clinton had one face for terrorists.

Christian, white, blowing up abortion clinics.

Anything that didn't fit the profile got handled like jay walking.


56 posted on 06/30/2005 12:03:57 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Democrats haven't had a new idea since Karl Marx.)
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To: sauropod

mark


57 posted on 06/30/2005 12:04:30 PM PDT by sauropod (Polite political action is about as useful as a miniskirt in a convent -- Claire Wolfe)
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To: CHARLITE

The Congressman's heart is in the right place, but Nichols has zero incentive to name names now. In fact, he has a definite disincentive, since prisons, both inmates and probably guards, have muzzies among them.

The time to pursue this was when the gov't. had something to offer, during the investigation and prosecution.

Now we're starting to see why McVeigh had the speediest execution since the 19th century.


58 posted on 06/30/2005 12:06:06 PM PDT by GadareneDemoniac
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To: CHARLITE
Thanks for the ping, Char. Jayna Davis has LONG been so overlooked that it DOES make the FBI look strange. I'll never understand why they were in such a hurry to execute McVeigh, either .. didn't make sense. Something is definitely fishy....though we know it always was with any Klintonite.

Clinton's Kosovo Failures

"Is this what the author calls a success in Kosovo, a model for Iraq? Deutsche Welle wrote on Nov. 15: "In Kosovo, human trafficking paid for much of the fighting. For the first time this year ... the world wide profits from human trafficking will exceed those of the drug trade." The Washington Times' own Jerry Seper reported as early as 1999, "Some members of the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA), which has financed its war efforts through the sale of heroin, were trained in terrorist camps run by international fugitive Osama bin Laden."

In November 2001, a Wall Street Journal Europe article said that in the past 10 years, al Qaeda's most senior leaders visited the Balkans. Osama bin Laden himself did three times between 1994 and 1996. While the Clinton administration underwrote the Bosnian Muslim government of Alija Izetbegovic, his embassy in Vienna gave bin Laden a passport in 1992.

Why did we go to war against the Serbian people? As Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in Media wrote on Feb. 19, "Clinton went to war on behalf of the Muslims, in Bosnia and then Kosovo. He wanted to appease the powerful Arab/Muslim bloc of nations and the Europeans who wanted to call the shots on U.S. foreign policy."

59 posted on 06/30/2005 12:06:12 PM PDT by STARWISE ( You get the govt. you deserve. CALL YOUR CONGRESS CRITTERS OFTEN -U.S. CONGRESS: 1-877-762-8762)
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To: dmz
Nichols acknowledged the existence of John Doe No. 2 – the alleged third terrorist – but stopped short of identifying him, claiming he "did not want to speculate."

However, according to Rohrabacher, Nichols said "he thought other people [beyond Nichols and Timothy McVeigh] were involved" in the Oklahoma City bombing.

I agree with you...I thought I was missing something....

60 posted on 06/30/2005 12:06:14 PM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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