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Koran predicts "Blazing Hell Fire" for its own demise - (eloquent ex-Muslim; Islam must be crushed!)
HISTORY OF JIHAD.ORG ^ | JUNE 29, 2005 | Jihad Team

Posted on 06/30/2005 8:47:47 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Mohammed organized a people made bitter by the environment; by institutionalizing this bitterness into the theology of Islam.

He encouraged people to worship him, his hair (Hazratbal mosque at Kashmir in India, his spitum, the water gargled by him, his urine, ad nausem) Thus Islam was his own personality cult, and his was a murderous personality. Warriors with a desire to win pleasure on earth if they live and in heaven if they die, made them paranoid warriors, disregarded danger and were numb to pain and this brought victory, no alcohol also helped immensely to get a tactical advantage like never before.

Not Alexander not Julius Caesar and one before Mohammed’s mulish armies had this paranoid motivation where temporal was mixed with fantasy (spiritual). Every foul tactic was fair for allah war. No moral scruples. Thus only an army with a greater determination and paranoia and absence of morals than the Muslims, can defeat Islam. And the Americans will have to become so, if they are to defeat the Islamic Jihad.

They were organized as an army, with a command that was inviolable, so only another army with a better and more disciplined command could defeat them. The Persian were no mach, but the Franks were. And the Americans will have to become so if the are to defeat the Jihad.

The point to be emphasized here is that out of the 28 battles, Mohammad fought 27 were offensive. They cannot even be called pre-emptive, since none of his adversaries had made plans to attack Mohammed. The Quraish had left him in peace after he fled to Medina. The Koran uses the principle of making a Hudna (pretence of making peace) when the enemy is strong, and using that period to making oneself stronger than the enemy. And after the enemy is weak to attack the enemy by giving offense and provoking the enemy.

Hitler too did this when he attacked Poland in World War two, by saying that the Poles has attacked Germany and that the Nazis were defending Germany. Hitler’s strategy bears an uncanny resemblance to the Quranic prescription.

The Quran advocates this policy of giving offense to an adversary and in fact sanctifies such abominable behavior as a holy duty for all Muslims by declaring the faith to them and giving them an option of embracing Isloam or being prepared for an attack by Muslims. The beginning of the Islamic Jihad was in Mohammed’s banditry.

Today if America wants to outdo the Jihadis at their own game it would do well, to emulate this Quranic principle of giving offense to the adversary (today’s Jihadis), and then going in to crush them utterly. America needs to realize that the only way of defeating the Jihad is by subjugating one Muslim country after another by taking out a few cities using nukes and neutrons and then giving them an ultimatum of leaving Islam or facing destruction. This is what Mohammed did to the Quraish, to the people of Taif, and this is also what the Muslims did to the Sassanian Persians, Byzantines, Visigoths in Al Andalus (Spain), and many others. It is high time to pay the Muslims with their own coin, and this is the only way to defeat them.


The fiction of there being moderate Muslims

As the war on Terror progresses, there is an increasing clamor that we need to link up with the moderates among the Muslims and thus isolate the lunatic fringe of terrorists who indulge in beheadings, genocide bombings, terror attacks et al. But then all these acts have been sanctioned in the Quran itself, which calls for the slaying of Idolaters (Kafirs), asks Muslim to let the Kafirs find harshness in you, and forbids Muslims from taking Kafirs as friends. All Muslims believe in the Quran, be he/she an unlettered peasant, or a highly educated and qualified doctor, surgeon, software pro, judge, littérateur, or any other accomplished professional. A Muslim howsoever polished and sophisticated remains a beast at heart, as long as he follows the Quran. Ask any educated Muslim anywhere in the world, whether he upholds the UN Charter, the Constitution of the USA, UK, France, where he and his family has settled for generations, or he upholds the Quran with all its blood-thirsty injunctions and listen to his answer. He will say, before the Quran everything is null and void.

Nothing that is contrary to the Quran’s blood-thirsty injunctions is not acceptable for him, so we can conclude that a Muslim can never in his heart of hearts be a member of a civilized society. He may pretend to be one, as Mohammed Atta pretended to be before he flew the airplanes into the Twin Towers, but within him the beast shall always be alive, waiting for the right chance to reveal himself. For a Muslim every personal friendship with non-Muslims, oath of citizenship, loyalty to the armed forces, is all transitory and subservient to the Quran. And he would cast off all oaths, promises in favor of the Quran whenever he is in a position of power to do so.

So we caution you that a Muslim is always a Muslim first and last. Never take Muslims for your friends, never ever trust them, never make peace with them, and always strive for their destruction. A Muslim would always remain a beast inside his external polished demeanor and appearance. Given a chance he will slice your throat, if you do not accept Islam. Any Muslim who refuses to do this would be deemed a traitor, a Murtad (Apostate) by other Muslims and be done to death. So no Muslim will dare to step out of line. Yes there could be many Muslims who think in their heart of hearts that Islam is savage. But they will never say that openly. We would deem such Muslims as ex-Muslims.

There are Muslims, ex-Muslims and non-Muslims. There are no moderate Muslims.

A Moderate Muslim is like a lady being partially pregnant. This is fiction, either you are pregnant or you are not. So you are either a Muslim (and a follower of theat barbaric Quran) or you are an ex-Muslim. You cannot be both a Muslim and civilized, you cannot be a Muslim and moderate. This is a contradiction in terms. You are either civilized moderate or you are a Muslim. Take your choice.

The Paradox of the death seeking psychology of Islam

This very death seeking psychology of Islam is also the behind their wanting to become a suicide bombers today. Any power that wants to defeat this death-seeking psychology, will have to be a death-giving one. Since Muslims want martyrdom, then only those who can give them this martyrdom fast and on a mass scale can overcome this delinquent psychology of the Muslims. The roots of Islam are psychological, and only one who understand this psychology, can overcome it. Islam is a psychology of perpetual war; a psychology that had existed among the pre-Islamic Bedioun Arabs.

But then this psychology was not a global problem, since the Arabs fought amongst themselves. With Islam this psychology was inbuilt into religion and infused with a zeal to impose this psychology on all those who were weak enough to fall before Muslim swords. As long as Islam has other religions on this globe, the war Jihad, will go on till the whole world is Islamized.

But in the unlikely event of the entire world being Islamized, will this violence stop? No Never. Then in that global Dar-ul-Islam, Muslims would fight amongst themselves Shias against Sunnis, Iranians against Iraqis, Arabs against non-Arabs and so on. Herein lies the paradox of Islam. As long as Islam is surrounded by other religions, there will be violence, but even after, and if at all, Islam is alone on this globe, there will still be endless violence, till Islam is put to an end. Islam has a senseless and unmanageable agenda, with other religions, while they are not sensible, at least they are manageable. Other religions bear animosity against each other, but they can be sobered down and made to co-exist with each other, as do Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, Shintoism, Hinduism, Animism, etc. But Islam defies, being tamed, being made manageable. And it will defy till its violent end.

Before Islam burst upon the world, all other religions had made the world non-sensible, but it is Islam that has made religion unmanageable, Had Islam not been around, it would not have been necessary to think in terms of the demise of religion itself. It is Islam that is forcing and will continue to force humankind away from religion. While non-Islamic religions made man into a delinquent, who kept muttering to himself, Islam has made man into a delinquent who has gone violently berserk, The delinquent has now to be shot a tranquilizer and then given a strong sedative to sober him up, so that mankind can bury the delinquent behavior of religion which Islam has made criminal, and after which humankind can continue its march of knowledge and science to plant the banner of humanity across the universe, and not waste its energies in fighting against itself in the narrow confines of planet earth.

Unfortunately for humankind, the end of the death-seeking fiery cult of Islam can only come about through a fiery death-giving weapon. Ironically such nuclear mushroom clouds would be the blazing hell-fire that the Quran talks about and acknowledges will bring about an end to Islam such that there will be no one across the globe to say “Lah ilah il Allah, Mohammed ur Rasoolallah” (There is no god but allah and Mohammed is his prophet).


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To: Eastbound
""Thus only an army with a greater determination and paranoia and absence of morals than the Muslims, can defeat Islam."

"Only a people who are morally justified (who just happen to be the biggest badass on the block if need be) will eradicate this plague upon mankind."

You aren't getting it. He is talking about mass murder, genocide. In his view, which is correct, Islam will remain a problem as long as there are Muslims living on the planet. Only by killing them all will they cease to be a problem.

Obviously we cannot kill them all however. That goes against all of our ethics. To do so would invalidate our moral superiority. We would have to ignore our values of human rights and tolerance and religious freedom. Thus we have a catch 22. We cannot win even though we are clearly superior badasses.

Muslims are a cancer on human society, but unlike cancer we cannot kill it. Instead we have to try and cure it. It will not be easy, but the first step is understanding that Islam IS the problem.

As long as people continue to believe that Islam is not the problem, and that it is just a coincidence that Muslims are in conflict and are terrorizing non Muslims all over the world, then we cannot hope to find a solution and go about curing the world of the disease of Islam.
61 posted on 07/01/2005 8:35:55 AM PDT by monday
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To: CHARLITE

This is a pile. Even if it were not, it should be considered as demagoguery and contrary to the official policy of the White House. Besides that, the suggestions are impractical.


62 posted on 07/01/2005 8:39:11 AM PDT by RightWhale (withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty)
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To: buzzsaw6
"Not so sure that is much of an improvement, though, I can't think of any atheist group that is overtly trying to kill me and everyone I know."

Atheism is just as much a religion as any other, and they can be just as intolerant of others beliefs as those of any religion. However you are correct that they aren't currently, that I am aware of, killing others for believing in God. They have in the past. Atheism was a significant part of Communism.

Instead of believing in God, Atheists believe there is no God. That is their religion. If you disagree, the less tolerant among them can be pretty nasty. All religions have intolerance towards other religions built into them, but only Islam teaches that others must be converted to Islam or enslaved or killed.

In this respect it is unique. It is why there will be no peace between Muslims and non-Muslims ever. They are required to war against non Muslims if they are to remain Muslims. In this respect the author is correct, Atheist or not.
63 posted on 07/01/2005 8:54:34 AM PDT by monday
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To: B4Ranch
"FCC restrictions will soon descend on talk show hosts with lists of unapproved topics."

the FCC does not have jurisdiction on for pay satellite stations. This might force talk shows to go satellite which would be good for freedom of speech.
64 posted on 07/01/2005 9:00:22 AM PDT by monday
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To: monday

Oh, I see you're another one who knows all one billion muslims out there. Okay, forget it. There is no point talking to people who think they know everything there is to know about a billion people.


65 posted on 07/01/2005 9:10:43 AM PDT by wizardoz
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To: wizardoz
"And the Muslim world is teaming with vague types whose notion of Islam is as generic and shallow as the many "Christians" who aren't even sure if they believe Jesus rose again."

Teaming? Hardly. There are some, and in Muslim countries they are the ones lashed for drinking beer, or talking to someone of the opposite sex. In western countries they are ostracized by fellow Muslims if the are men, killed if they are women. Islam is a very strict religion. It's life and death strict, especially for Muslim women.
66 posted on 07/01/2005 9:11:43 AM PDT by monday
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To: monday
"We would have to ignore our values of human rights and tolerance and religious freedom."

My solution is for all of Islam to isolate itself from humanity and work out their problems on each other. The Cain Sanction, if you will.

If not, and they continue their crap, we would not be ignoring our values if we are dealing with a terminal infection in the human race.

If the cancer can't be cured, pluck off the offending member.

67 posted on 07/01/2005 9:25:43 AM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: wizardoz
Why is it so important to you to establish that there are "moderate Muslims"? Just as moderate Catholics are not representative of the Catholic religion, moderate Muslims, to the extent that they exist, are even less representative of the Islamic religion.

Do you think it is a coincidence that Muslims are killing innocent non Muslims all over the world? Do you think it is non Muslims fault for provoking Muslims? Why are you such a defender of Islam?
68 posted on 07/01/2005 9:34:37 AM PDT by monday
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To: Eastbound

That's an interesting picture .. where was it found ..??


69 posted on 07/01/2005 11:47:28 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: CyberAnt

"In Nahum 1:6 - "Who can stand before His indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? His fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by Him."

Hence all the sins in the old testament requiring STONING as the punishment there-of!


70 posted on 07/01/2005 11:57:37 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Even when a dog discovers he is barking up a wrong tree, he can still take a leak on it!)
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To: monday

I'm not a defender of Islam. I think Islam sucks. But I know there are millions of people out there who were raised muslim who don't buy into it all that much, just as there are millions of Christians who aren't much into it. Why is it important to establish that? Because it's the truth, and this screed that there is no such thing as a moderate muslim is bs.


71 posted on 07/01/2005 11:58:47 AM PDT by wizardoz
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To: mdmathis6

"... all the sins in the old testament requiring STONING as the punishment ..."


Wow! That's interesting .. I don't think I ever realized why they used stoning as punishment. Hmmmmm??


72 posted on 07/01/2005 12:01:13 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: wizardoz
But I know there are millions of people out there who were raised muslim who don't buy into it all that much, just as there are millions of Christians who aren't much into it.

You don't seem to understand. The "radicalism" in Islam you see is enshrined in its very holy book. If and when jihad is declared locally, like in America, these "moderates" will be faced with becoming jihadists or be executed by the "radicals", probably at home in their beds as they sleep, if they resist. What are they likely to choose?

There cannot be any Muslim "moderates". Your head is dangerously soft. Not just to you, but to the rest of us as well.

73 posted on 07/01/2005 12:23:23 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: wizardoz
"But I know there are millions of people out there who were raised muslim who don't buy into it all that much"

How do you know? Do you know each of them personally? Polls have shown that Muslims, even "moderate Muslims" put their religion before any other authority. This is typical of anyone when discussing their religion. The problem with Islam is that, unlike other religions, Islam is at odds with ordinary human rights. Freedom of religion, Freedom of expression, Freedom of association, and tolerance of others are just some of the rights and values that the Koran forbids.

Every Muslim puts following the Koran ahead of following the laws of the land in which they reside. They may act like they don't care about the Koran, but if pressed to choose, the Koran must be their choice. If they don't choose the Koran, then they aren't Muslim any longer. I didn't make the rules, thats just the way it is.
74 posted on 07/01/2005 12:48:04 PM PDT by monday
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To: William Terrell; monday

I'm sorry. I really shouldn't be interfering with your hate-fest. It's obvious you like thinking this way and you're enjoying yourselves. Party on. Don't mind me. Go back to building the crematoriums.


75 posted on 07/01/2005 1:54:47 PM PDT by wizardoz
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To: wizardoz
You seriously need to talk to someone with some sense. You're dealing with a rattlesnake, and while, in your unconscious ignorance, you get bit, you but suffer the consequences of your lack of wisdom.

In Islam's case, however, you are part of a body politic, who will suffer the consequences of your, and any ignoramus you would tend to convince, soft headiness.

Get educated and get hard. It's not too late even for liberals.

"Diseases desperate grown/By desperate appliance are relieved, Or not at all."

76 posted on 07/01/2005 2:08:31 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: wizardoz
Faithfreedom - Great resource site about the great lie that mohammud created.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/index.htm

How the Saudi's are spreading the kingdoms hatred in the USA. MUST READ!
http://freedomhouse.org/religion/pdfdocs/FINAL%20FINAL%20Saudi.pdf

Robert Spencers site
www.jihadwatch.org

Steve Emerson's Counter Terrorism Blog
http://counterterror.typepad.com/

TROP leaders info
www.prophetofdoom.net

Information, it's your friend. Don't become a liability, because in the end your loved ones will pay for it as well. The above post about your "moderate muzzie" friend reminds me of someones comment on Mohammud Atta's behavior from a fellow tenant. Their all sooo nice until the Jihad switch is thrown. You should go ask your "moderate muzzie" friend if she'll hold you down while they execute you.
77 posted on 07/01/2005 2:36:12 PM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: William Terrell
Oh, so now I'm a liberal because I refuse to believe that there is no such thing as a moderate muslim?

You are the one who needs to talk with someone who has some sense. You can't stomp out Islam, even if you murdered every last muslim and burned every last Koran.

But by all means, try! Have a blast!

78 posted on 07/01/2005 4:54:56 PM PDT by wizardoz
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To: CyberAnt
I don't know, CyberAnt. I received it in an email without an explanation. If the cartouche can be deciphered, it may at least point to the time, location, and identity.
79 posted on 07/01/2005 5:49:28 PM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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To: wizardoz
"It's obvious you like thinking this way and you're enjoying yourselves"

We don't like "thinking this way". It is the way things are. Ignoring it won't make it go away. If you choose to be oblivious in order for you to feel safer thats up to you. We are not the ones building crematoriums or killing innocents though. I have no desire to harm anyone. The same can't be said for Muslims however. You ignore the facts at your own peril.
80 posted on 07/01/2005 5:53:43 PM PDT by monday
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