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Dutch Sending Three F-16 Jets To Find Missing Teen (Natalee Holloway)
Yahoo News ^ | PETER PRENGAMAN

Posted on 07/02/2005 7:18:33 PM PDT by Libloather

Dutch Sending Jets to Find Missing Teen
By PETER PRENGAMAN, Associated Press Writer
11 minutes ago


Aruba's Attorney General Karin Janssen speaks to the Associated Press in her office in Oranjestad, Aruba, Friday, July 1, 2005, regarding the case of missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway. (AP Photo/Leslie Mazoch)

ORANJESTAD, Aruba - Holland will send three F-16 warplanes rigged with search equipment to find Natalee Holloway, Aruban authorities said Saturday, as U.S. lawmakers increased pressure on the Aruban government to do more to find the Alabama teenager nearly five weeks since she disappeared.

The three planes, equipped with infrared and sonar-scanning capacity, were expected to arrive Sunday afternoon, said Aruban government spokesman Ruben Trapenberg.

Trapenberg said the planes were being sent after Aruban Justice Minister Rudy Croes requested more help from Holland, the Caribbean island's former colonizer.

"Both the justice minister and the prime minister feel that Holland can help us reach a resolution with this," said Trapenberg.

This week both Sen. Richard Shelby, a Republican from Alabama, and Alabama Gov. Bob Riley, wrote letters to Aruban Prime Minister Nelson Oduber urging the government to do more and let the FBI play a larger role in the investigation.

"With every passing day, I become increasingly concerned that the current investigation has reached a dead end," Shelby wrote in a letter dated July 1. "It's unfathomable that the Aruban government would not take advantage of the full spectrum of resources, personnel and expertise of the FBI."

Seven FBI agents have had an observatory role on the island since a few days after Holloway disappeared on May 30, but have repeatedly said they don't have jurisdiction to direct the searches or investigation.

Trapenberg said calls for an increased FBI presence don't make sense. "It's fine to have the FBI here, but if you send in more agents are you saying the ones here are not any good?" he said.

The teen's mother, Beth Holloway Twitty, said the U.S. pressure showed that family members aren't alone in their frustration with the pace of the investigation.

"It has become increasingly difficult to simply wait and see what happens," Holloway Twitty, a 44-year-old speech pathologist, said in an interview Saturday with The Associated Press.

The mother said the family was "graciously pleading" with the FBI and Holland to do more to find her daughter.

"It would be comforting for us if they were more active in this investigation," said Holloway Twitty. "We must demand and expect that Natalee be returned to her country."

Holloway, 18, from Mountain Brook, Ala., disappeared on the last of a five-day graduation trip with 124 classmates.

Island-wide searches — which have included Aruban police, the FBI, Dutch Marines, a rescue group from Texas and thousands of volunteers — have produced nothing.

Three young men have been detained in the disappearance: Dutch teenager Joran van der Sloot and his friends, Surinamese brothers Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18.

Trapenberg said Friday that the three young men have not been formally charged but could be as soon as Monday. Trapenberg has not said what charges could be filed against the three. They were scheduled to go before a judge Monday to learn if their detentions would be extended another 60 days. Under Dutch law that governs Aruba, a protectorate of the Netherlands, detainees can be held 116 days before being charged by a judge.

Trapenberg said Friday that the three young men have not been formally charged but could be as soon as Monday.

The three were the last ones seen with Holloway the night she disappeared. They were arrested June 9 and on Monday were expected to go before a judge who would decide whether to extend their detention an additional 60 days while prosecutors prepare their case.


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To: Libloather
"It's fine to have the FBI here, but if you send in more agents are you saying the ones here are not any good?"

Ohfercrissake - send in 17 or 18 more people and they'll have enough there to be able to hold hands, span the width of the island, and do a WALKOVER.

61 posted on 07/02/2005 7:57:43 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.1)
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To: BearWash

And, by the way, it doesn't depend on air temperature, it depends on soil temperature. Soil cools down a lot more than 10 degrees when the sun isn't heating it any more. And there's still differential cooling.


62 posted on 07/02/2005 7:58:10 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: solitas

IR will show things the naked eye can't, as many search parties have unfortunately found out. :(


63 posted on 07/02/2005 8:00:09 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
The MIA teams are still looking for, and finding, gravesites and crash sites in Vietnam with satellite based IR.

I wasn't aware of that but I'm guessing those were not single-person graves. If so, correct me.

I'll become a believer in the grave-finding IR system if it finds her body (assuming its buried).

64 posted on 07/02/2005 8:00:16 PM PDT by steve86
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To: Spktyr
Soil cools down a lot more than 10 degrees when the sun isn't heating it any more.

Other way around. Air changes more rapidly, of course. In my area, like Nevada, air might change 40 degrees or more from day to night. Soil might change 5.

And soil in the tropics hardly changes at all from day to night.

65 posted on 07/02/2005 8:02:10 PM PDT by steve86
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To: BearWash

The biggest problem for the systems is overhead cover. They still don't work well against triple-canopy jungle. However, as more of Vietnam's jungle gets cleared for farming and construction, more sites keep showing up.

At least two cases that I am aware of were single-occupant graves. One was a pilot and aircraft that augered in, the other was an Army infantryman.


66 posted on 07/02/2005 8:02:46 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: tang-soo; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass


Natalee is not buried in piece or place

...and I doubt they used chemicals on her - not enough time and too messy and leaves something that must be disposed of -



The short time factor leads me to believe they either went the "sausage" or "dog food" route

Quite popular with the Mafia folks

There then is no "evidence" at all

There are grinders that reduce the bones to powder

At sea she would be in a weighted container open to sea life



Not very pleasant - but my take on what Daddy van der Slime would do


The question now is what we do to Aruba, the Dutch islands, and Amsterdam as I doubt this will be resolved in any satisfactory manner -

Aruba is a lawless island transit point for Columbian drug cartels -

Now the world sees what "justice" outside of the USA is really like -



67 posted on 07/02/2005 8:02:55 PM PDT by devolve (-------------------------------------------------)
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To: buccaneer81
Among the flight crews, Falcon has never been fully accepted. Viper has been the unofficial nickname for years.

Maybe they should have tried "Golden Eagle".

68 posted on 07/02/2005 8:03:27 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Celebrating 20 years of wedded bliss on 4/20/05. I have much to be thankful for!)
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To: Spktyr
If the locals (or suspects) kinda point to a specific part of the island, they might be able to discover the grave within a couple days.

I think it's a snappy idea, probably the only one that will crack the case.

69 posted on 07/02/2005 8:03:36 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: BearWash

Just think: sand gets REAL hot during the day, then REAL cold at night. Your typical farm loam varies nothing like this. A body (with moisture) will not vary up and down as quickly as the sand around it, and will show temp. difference.


70 posted on 07/02/2005 8:08:27 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Spktyr

Would it, like, detect her inside a shark?


71 posted on 07/02/2005 8:10:37 PM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: Libloather
They're called Trylon Vipers and, apparently, have very big wheels. Is that an 8-track player?

What the frac! Our technology can be so lame at times... but at least someones trying!

72 posted on 07/02/2005 8:10:54 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup (The cheese stands alone.)
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To: txflake
Just think: sand gets REAL hot during the day, then REAL cold at night.

Only at the very surface, though. I can walk outside my house at 4 AM and feel the cool sand on top, but I believe that a foot or so underneath it hardly varies. (I will check that with a thermocouple).

73 posted on 07/02/2005 8:14:11 PM PDT by steve86
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To: jimboster

No, unfortuantely, and I suspect that's how the body was disposed of.

However, you still need to eliminate the island as a possible burial site, and this is a pretty good way to do it.


74 posted on 07/02/2005 8:14:21 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

Did they ever find Bishop Pike in the desert?


75 posted on 07/02/2005 8:14:30 PM PDT by miele man
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To: Libloather

Day late, dollar short.


76 posted on 07/02/2005 8:20:52 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (My poor cat has a broken leg.... and a huge cast. <^..^>)
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To: Spktyr


Using top of the line Dutch technology,
Police Chief Boran Van Undershorts looks through
a really big telescope in hopes of spotting Natalee Holloway
77 posted on 07/02/2005 8:22:34 PM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: Libloather

I think they should be looking at what boats and planes left the island the night she disappeared.

An 18 year old blonde is worth money in the Middle East, especially in Saudi Arabia. Put her on a ship or a plane and she'll never be found.

They should look at the bank accounts of the locals - anyone suddenly deposit or get a wire transfer of 50 or 100 grand?


78 posted on 07/02/2005 8:22:45 PM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: Spktyr


Aruban detectives instruct fish to "Go find Natalee"
79 posted on 07/02/2005 8:34:10 PM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: miele man

Yeah, they did, he's interred in the Protestant Cemetary in Jaffa, Israel.


80 posted on 07/02/2005 8:38:03 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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