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Skipping school can mean a day in court or washing school buses, fines or parenting classes
Houston Chronicle ^ | July 5, 2005 | BILL MURPHY

Posted on 07/05/2005 12:51:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why indeed!I substitute teach in a large urban district and can tell you that LOTS of these kids who are of high school age should be in some vocational program or apprenticeship,not being made to take Advanced Algebra and Chemistry which are courses way over their heads and they then become classroom discipline problems.
ELEMENTARY school is a different arena.Parents should get consequences for letting this age group slide in coming to school.
My policy is that if you don't want to exert your brain and be a co-operative and positive influence in my class,then cut to your hearts content,baby!Its your life.


81 posted on 07/05/2005 12:47:07 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: patton

Whoops. Not my best topic.

You do seem to know a lot about a lot of topics though.


82 posted on 07/05/2005 12:47:19 PM PDT by moog
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To: moog

I'm wishing, not observing reality, unfortunately. If I were Emperor...


83 posted on 07/05/2005 12:49:44 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (6/30/05 budget deficit down http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0620/p17s01-cogn.html)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He asked the judge to give his daughter the shock treatment of a day in jail, but the judge declined, instead fining Hill $200

The guy needs to understand, it's not about truancy, it's about funding a new bureaucracy for the DA

84 posted on 07/05/2005 12:50:00 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Smokin' Joe

But the "parenting teacher" was a liberal--haven't you learned they just KNOW more than anyone else? Sheesh! ;)


85 posted on 07/05/2005 12:50:51 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (6/30/05 budget deficit down http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0620/p17s01-cogn.html)
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To: moog
Oooops. I let my redneck persona slip. Dang.

Nothing to see here, folks. Just some dumb grunt, falling out of airplanes.

I actually fell out of an airplane, once - never laughed so hard in my life.

86 posted on 07/05/2005 12:53:17 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: Darkwolf377

I'm wishing, not observing reality, unfortunately. If I were Emperor...

Just don't be the naked one.


87 posted on 07/05/2005 12:54:59 PM PDT by moog
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Perfect way for a teen to get back at a parent who is just trying to be a good parent and set standards - get the parent in trouble. The schools should accept their share of responsibility and act in partnership with parents to make sure that students get to school and then stay there.


88 posted on 07/05/2005 1:08:13 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: Mortikhi

Well then, the schools should knuckle down and make sure that, once students arive at school and are signed in on the attendace roll, that they stay at school! That's the school's responsibility and its part of the bargain. They are trying to sluff it off.


89 posted on 07/05/2005 1:10:50 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: moog

Yep. But today's parents have all the responsibility and have been stripped by law of all their authority.


90 posted on 07/05/2005 1:14:22 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: ArmyTeach
Yep. But today's parents have all the responsibility and have been stripped by law of all their authority

All parents have authority. Granted DCFS can be harsh, but every parent has the authority and PRIVILEGE to raise kids and they will be the main influence one way or the other on them.

91 posted on 07/05/2005 1:34:02 PM PDT by moog
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To: moog

What you said just triggered something in me.

My brain (and mouth) have two modes: English and Not English. Not English is occupied by Spanish. Everything Not English I say comes out Spanish-sounding. Even French.


92 posted on 07/05/2005 1:37:19 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Go Team Venture!)
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To: Xenalyte
My brain (and mouth) have two modes: English and Not English. Not English is occupied by Spanish. Everything Not English I say comes out Spanish-sounding. Even French.

My brain and mouth have two nodes too. One is dumb and the other is dumber. Interesting though:).

93 posted on 07/05/2005 1:42:24 PM PDT by moog
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To: moog
Until the state steps in. There is very little parents can do other than talk, which doensn't get far with a determined teen. Even giving kids restriction depends on the kids' abiding by it. Kids find out how to use the system to hurt their parents, get their parents fined or jailed. As far as truancy goes, as I parent, if my girls had walked out of school, I'd take their license and not allow them to drive to or from school with friends. It's Mom or the bus, and they'd better be there and on time.
94 posted on 07/05/2005 1:45:53 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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To: ArmyTeach

Take it from me-there is nothing more disruptive than security bringing a recalcitrant teenager into your classroom who has spent most of lunch hour smoking a joint and has absolutely NO school related materials in his possesion.
Recipe for disaster!


95 posted on 07/05/2005 1:51:39 PM PDT by Riverman94610
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To: ArmyTeach
Until the state steps in. There is very little parents can do other than talk, which doensn't get far with a determined teen. Even giving kids restriction depends on the kids' abiding by it. Kids find out how to use the system to hurt their parents, get their parents fined or jailed. As far as truancy goes, as I parent, if my girls had walked out of school, I'd take their license and not allow them to drive to or from school with friends. It's Mom or the bus, and they'd better be there and on time.

SORRRY!!! I misunderstood you a little. I agree with all your points here. You seem to be a good parent based on your last statement. Yes, I have seen examples of where the kids used the system to manipulate things. This one girl accused my uncle of molesting her (and her druggie mom pressed charges) which turned out to be absolutely false. He lost his job and nearly his reputation. It divided the town like nothing before or since too. I have seen other examples of parents being accused of things they didn't do too. One of my former students a THIRD grader decided she didn't want to clean her room and so she took off out her bedroom window. She went over to a neighbor's house and told them that her mom and dad hadn't been treating her right. The neighbors called the police and the parents had to go through all sorts of heck to make a long story short.

Please understand that it's hard when I see people complain about raising kids or making excuses not to (not that I exactly thought that). It's what I want most to have the opportunity to do in the world (for 11 years and counting--other options aren't available for now) and I think it is the most wonderful privilege anyone could have, albeit difficult.

96 posted on 07/05/2005 2:09:59 PM PDT by moog
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

***Good comment. We have been discussing inexpensive ways to fast track kids through high school to avoid the liberal agenda and other idiocies:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1315730/posts?page=84#84

Unfortunately my thread title was not well thought out, because some parents might instinctively skip over it due to attached stigma, whether real or imagined.


97 posted on 07/11/2005 5:22:41 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: Kevin OMalley

Thank you for the article and LINK to extremeintellect.com.

It is a great site!


98 posted on 07/11/2005 11:48:48 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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