Posted on 07/06/2005 12:08:22 AM PDT by Srirangan
Quoting a report from the Second International Naval Show (IMDS-2005) in St. Petersburg.
Moreover, Kommersant found out that Rosoboronexport is negotiating with Iran about repair and modernization of Iranian submarines. Iran has three submarines of Project 877EKM that were supplied by Russia in 1992 (Russian name of the sub B-219, Iranian—901 Tareq), in June 1993 (B-224, 902 Noor) and in November 1996 (B-175, 903 Yunes). It was expected that all the major components that already exceeded their life expectancy will be replaced. Also, the new anti-ship missile complex Club-S with the target distance of 200 km will be installed on these subs. The refurbishing of each sub would be done under the contract which costs anywhere from $80 to $90 million. Originally it was expected that the refurbishing will be done in Zvezdochka Co (Severo-Dvinsk) but Admiralty Shipyards are also fighting for the contract.
Are we still giving Russia aid in any form? Like Grain aid? If we are we need to stop and let them know that they should not be dealing with these regimes.
The 3M54E is an anti-ship cruise missile consisting of a launch stage, a winged low-flying subsonic cruise stage, and a terminal low-flying supersonic payload stage with a range of 20km. It can be fired from surface ship vertical launch tubes or 533mm submarine torpedo tubes. It has a 200kg payload with a range of 220km. The 3M54E1 is a smaller version that does not have the third supersonic stage, but it has a longer range (300km) and a heavier payload (400kg).
These subs & missiles are anything but crap.The subs are very quiet diesel electrics,rather well suited for operations in the Straits of Hormuz & Arabian Sea.
How many countries operate sub-launched anti-ship missiles with a range of 200-300kms???Only a handful & these Klub missiles reportedly will have a supersonic terminal stage,which will make their effect on impact far more deadly.
Precisely why we've tightened the noose around Vladimir, i.e. with Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Albania, and Hungary joining NATO. Also, we have US forces stationed in Uzbekistan, Krygastan (spelling), Tajikistan, and Georgia. How do you like that Vladimir, you Bolshevik!
Hmm,well some (pretty influential) folks in NATO like Germany,Spain & Italy seem to be tilting towards the Russian!!!Russia operates an airbase in kyrgyzstan( a few miles from the American installation) & has very very strong security ties with Tajikistan(including a small airbase) & Uzbekistan.Anyone will tell you that the US was able to secure facilities in the region for the Afghan war because the Russians didn't explicitly mind it & also because they themselves had great influence there.
welcome to the real world.
While the U.S keeps giving russia aid.
You're hired!
The term "iranian bubbleheads" comes to mind...
But then again I was always fond of keeping my head above water while we were on deployment anyway...
Those subs look like targets to me though...
These subs are not all they are cracked up to be...They can be dealt with very quickly and efficiently
Those "missles" may be capable, but they are not in capable hands to be a "real" threat...
Echhh, but whata I know??? Right??? hehehe
Errr...even to people who don't live real far from the Persian Gulf?
Thanks a lot, Russia.
This has nothing to do with communism or capitalism and everything to do with (perceived) national interest. Russia thinks that it will be more powerful in a world where the United States is weaker. Plenty of other countries believe the same thing. That's nationalism, not ideology, and while I don't necessarily agree with it, the solution isn't namecalling.
Bwahahahaha. I'm going to step out on a limb and guess that... you've never been to Russia. Russia invading Europe in 2005? Warn me if they form an alliance with Canada, Monaco and Papua New Guinea, because then we'll really be in trouble.
The US will likely equip them with improvised water intakes.
Germany has reached out to the Russians during Schroeder's tenure, and I suspect so under pressure from the French, but that will stop in September with the election of Angela Merkel as Chancellor of Germany. She is the leader of the Christian Democrats (who will form the next governing coalition), and she has promised to rekindle relations with Washington and cool things a bit with Moscow. Also, I don't understand your comment about Italy, Berlusconi sent troops to Iraq, and he is a great friend of the US. Spain, yes, you're correct here, Zapatoro has cooled things with Washington in favor of Russia, France, Germany, and Brussels. As to the bases in Central Asia, of course the Russians have stronger influence there, it's their backyard. But it must be troubling to Putin that America has combat forces currently stationed in countries that border Russia, and that all the former members of the Warsaw Pact, with the obvious exception of the defunct Soviet Union, are now members of NATO.
If we keep waiting they are going to have nukes and long range missiles as well as these subs.
Let's face it ... an attack is almost unavoidable in the near future.
Are they nuts?
Yes.
Ditto. This is much to do about nothing. Putin is just taking their money --suckers-- selling 3rd rate goods. The subs are loud, equipment is crappy, and the Iranian Navy aren't exactly known for their seafaring skills.
We'll know where everyone of them are at ALL times. Relax.
Russia seems to care only about Money and nothing else. Putin is a backstabber.
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