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Gov. Bush touts Christian-based program for schools [FL ACLU criticizes All-Pro Dad program]
Palm Beach Post ^ | July 06, 2005 | Dara Kam

Posted on 07/08/2005 6:49:24 AM PDT by summer

TALLAHASSEE — Just before Father's Day, Gov. Jeb Bush announced that he wanted every public school in Florida to host a Christian-based program designed to increase fathers' participation in their children's lives.

The program, All Pro Dad, combines a biblical foundation with the draw of popular professional athletes to promote the belief that "the father is the head of the household" and that men should rely on God to help them be better parents and keep their marriages intact. It also encourages Bible reading.


"This is a really great program," Bush said at a news conference last month, though he did not make any reference to the project's Christian foundation. "The response of this program has been a success, and I hope it expands throughout the entire state to every school in every school district."

But critics say the program, which has a direct link on the Florida Department of Education Web site, clearly has Christian overtones and is part of a national effort by evangelicals who view public schools as recruiting fields.

An official state Web site should not be linked to such an organization, said Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State. Lynn said the link violates the First Amendment, which prohibits government from establishing a state religion and at the same time prohibits government from interfering with religious practices.

"This has a very clear religious message, so that's wrong and that should be stopped immediately," Lynn said from his office in Washington. "This is an overtly fundamentalist Christian worldview that's being promoted."

Program popular in Tampa area

The All Pro Dad program is used in about 60 locations in 20 states, including a dozen Tampa Bay-area public schools. Monthly breakfast meetings are held in school cafeterias or nearby Chick-fil-A restaurants. There are no active chapters in Palm Beach, Martin or St. Lucie counties.

Last month, however, Florida K-12 public schools Chancellor Jim Warford touted the program to the state's 67 school superintendents.

"I encourage you to go to:

www.allprodad.com

to get a free introductory DVD about the program and how you can get fathers more involved in your schools," Warford wrote in a June 17 memo. The memo does not include information about the program's religious orientation.

Department of Education officials defended the state's endorsement of the Christian-based program, but otherwise referred queries about All Pro Dad to Volunteer Florida, a Bush-appointed nonprofit agency charged with faith and community outreach.

"It's appropriate for the Department of Education to endorse programs that encourage parents to be involved in their children's lives. We would support any program that would encourage that," department spokeswoman Melanie Etters said. "The fact is that a lot of the people that participate in the All Pro Dads are NFL stars and they reach out to some populations that the Department of Education wouldn't attract."

Etters said the department "welcomes other programs" that would promote parental involvement in their children's lives.

But Howard Simon, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Florida, said Bush and the department's endorsement of the program is indicative of the governor's disregard for the state constitution, which prohibits spending state money, directly or indirectly, on religious programs.

"It may be a wonderful program, but a program that encourages Bible reading and strengthening your relationship with God is not the kind of program that should be sponsored by the public schools, nor should it be the kind of program that is organized and facilitated by the public schools," Simon said.

"From vouchers, from faith-based initiatives, to the nation's first faith-based prisons, this governor has a blind spot when it comes to the constitutional requirement on separation of church and state.
He's completely uncritical. He doesn't believe that reading the Bible and strengthening your relationship with God is a faith-based message."

The Florida Supreme Court is now considering whether Bush's 6-year-old Opportunity Scholarship Program is constitutional. The program gives vouchers for students at failing schools to attend private schools, including religious schools.

Two lower courts have struck down the voucher program, declaring it violated the constitutional provision barring state tax dollars from being spent on religious institutions.

The All Pro Dad curriculum was created by Family First, a Tampa-based nonprofit "research and educational organization," according to founder and President Mark Merrill. It is being promoted throughout the nation, in part with the help of fast-food chain Chick-fil-A, whose founder, S. Truett Cathy, is a Southern Baptist. Merrill was tapped by Bush, a Catholic, to serve on Volunteer Florida's 25-member board.

Mulrennan Middle School in Valrico, east of Tampa, promotes All Pro Dad on its school marquee and in newsletters. The school also advertises the program on its radio and television stations, said assistant principal Matthew Diprima, who organizes the monthly meetings.

"This is something the school supports, and this is something that's fostered by the school," Diprima said.

He said the Mulrennan group meets at a neighborhood Chick-fil-A, which donates materials to the children who participate. The group uses the All Pro Dad Web site to choose topics for discussion.

Included on the Web site are tips for fathers, including "Ten Ways to be a Better Dad" and "How to Save Your Marriage."

Father called 'head coach' of family

One of the marriage-saving lessons, written by All Pro Dad Director Bryan Davis, coaches men to pray with their wives.

"God has joined you and your wife together. He is the Author of love and marital harmony. Deepening your relationship with Him is the key and foundation of a successful marriage. If you haven't cracked open a Bible in a while, start. Find I Corinthians 13 and give it a read. It's the perfect blueprint for your marriage," Davis advises.

A video introduction by Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy, All Pro Dad's national spokesman, lays the groundwork for good parenting by establishing the father as the "head coach" of the family.

"That's the biblical way it's set up. Mom and Dad directing the family together, with the dad being the head of the household," Dungy instructs participants. "Now that doesn't always happen... but that's the ideal way and the best way, and that's the way we're going to function the best."

But the group's president last week did not directly answer several questions about the Bible's role in the All Pro Dad resources.

"Isn't that self-evident?" Merrill said. "A lot of the principles contained in the Old and New Testaments really are superior principles for raising children and for living."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: christians; dads; education; fl; jebbush; pspl
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To: Protagoras

The problem I have with Libertarian type thinkers is they ignore the fact that government already controls education and spends thousands of dollars promoting anti-relgious doctrine. Then when one dollar is spent that promotes a religious view, Libertarians come out of the woodwork and cry what a dangerous policy it is. Most Libertarians come across to me as anti-Christian bigots.


61 posted on 07/08/2005 9:35:28 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: what's up
Yep. And there are plenty of people who like political dynasties. It makes them feel safe.

It's just a feeling though.

62 posted on 07/08/2005 9:37:01 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: Protagoras
And there are plenty of people who like political dynasties

And there are plenty who don't. Just pointing out that your scenario of "crowning" won't take place.

63 posted on 07/08/2005 9:39:52 AM PDT by what's up
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To: traviskicks
but rather, "Why are they staying away?" and "What is causing this problem already?"

I agree with you, as those questions are good questions. Now, why do you think fathers stay away? I will give some of the reasons I have come across, as I am not sure how many of those reasons would change as a result of what else you wrote. Beyond divorce (and some divorced men very much want to be part of their kids' lives), here's some of the "reasons" for absentee fathers that I know of:

1) No one has ever figured out who the father of the child actually is. Birth certificate says "father unknown." Mother was raped or had multiple partners.

2) No one expects the father to marry the mother of the child. The mother and father were just "hooking up." The kid was an accident.

3) The father does not marry THIS mother, since the dad has fathered kids with multple women. He remains single.

4) The dad is out of the picture and not married to the mother, and the dad's current address is jail, or his current address is unknown.

5) The father of the child was, himself, raised by a single mom, and does not know how to be a father, and is afraid of this new role, and so abandons the mother and child.

6) The father feels no responsibility to the kid. This includes celebrity dads' kids, as some of these wealthy men have to be dragged into court and forced by court order to pay child support. There is never any "family" structure for the kid in terms of having a father around.

7) Etc.
64 posted on 07/08/2005 9:45:41 AM PDT by summer
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To: Always Right
The problem I have with Libertarian type thinkers

I am not a Libertarian. I am a libertarian. And the problem I have with authoritarian type thinkers is that they ignore that past mistakes can be fixed by not making the mistakes anymore.

And I haven't ignored anything like you allege, in fact I have addressed precisely your point.

Then when one dollar is spent that promotes a religious view, Libertarians come out of the woodwork and cry what a dangerous policy it is.

Government should not be involved in religion. And anyone who cares about their religion would never under any circumstanses allow government to take over their religion by imposing itself upon them.

Most Libertarians come across to me as anti-Christian bigots.

I guess you don't get out much.

65 posted on 07/08/2005 9:46:48 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: what's up
Crowning will not take place in 2008. Rather, we will go thru an electoral process.

That's what I thought happens in the USA! Thanks! :)
66 posted on 07/08/2005 9:47:11 AM PDT by summer
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To: what's up
And there are plenty who don't. Just pointing out that your scenario of "crowning" won't take place.

I suspect you are correct. I just want to keep the point fresh.

67 posted on 07/08/2005 9:48:00 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: Always Right

Re your post #61 - Thanks for your post here. Good luck dealing with that idiot who wrote you back. Best to ignore him.


68 posted on 07/08/2005 9:49:34 AM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Re your post #61 - Thanks for your post here. Good luck dealing with that idiot who wrote you back. Best to ignore him.

Solid advice.

69 posted on 07/08/2005 9:53:45 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

Did I say "idiot" in my last post? I meant to say something else. However, I won't say it here.


70 posted on 07/08/2005 9:53:59 AM PDT by summer
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To: Always Right

LOL...I'll tell you, I try to be nice to everyone -- I really do. But there are times when it's best to just let cerain posters be. Be left alone, that is! :)


71 posted on 07/08/2005 9:54:44 AM PDT by summer
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To: summer

Please refrain from personal attacks. It is counter to posting guidelines.


72 posted on 07/08/2005 9:56:13 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: summer

The premise of the program sounds good.

But it shouldn't be funded by taxpayer dollars.


73 posted on 07/08/2005 9:56:31 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: summer

Government will never solve the problem of absentee fathers. And it really shouldn't.


74 posted on 07/08/2005 9:58:03 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: Protagoras
I just want to keep the point fresh

Not a good justification for innacurate statements.

75 posted on 07/08/2005 9:58:14 AM PDT by what's up
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To: k2blader
The premise of the program sounds good. But it shouldn't be funded by taxpayer dollars.

I have made the same point quite a few times in this thread. Prepare to be called names.

76 posted on 07/08/2005 9:58:56 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: what's up
Not a good justification for innacurate statements.

I made no inaccurate statement. I guess my error was in thinking that people could recognize sarcasm without the little tag.

77 posted on 07/08/2005 10:01:22 AM PDT by Protagoras (Now that the frog is fully cooked, how would you like it served?)
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To: Protagoras
I made no inaccurate statement.

Just one about Jeb Bush being "crowned".

78 posted on 07/08/2005 10:04:56 AM PDT by what's up
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To: ohioman

Protagoras is the opposite of liberal, trust me.

BTW, clean up your language.


80 posted on 07/08/2005 10:08:52 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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