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1 posted on 07/08/2005 10:47:06 AM PDT by demlosers
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Space Ping.


2 posted on 07/08/2005 10:47:42 AM PDT by demlosers (Allegra: Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home.)
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People who fantasize about teleportation forget something pointed out in the great SF novel Rogue Moon by Algis Budrys--teleportation KILLS YOU! What's reassembled is no longer you, it's a "new" you.


3 posted on 07/08/2005 10:49:09 AM PDT by Darkwolf
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To: neverdem; mhking

Teleportation Ping...


4 posted on 07/08/2005 10:50:47 AM PDT by all4one (www.missingkids.com)
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bttttttt...


5 posted on 07/08/2005 10:52:01 AM PDT by el_texicano
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Interesting article. A little far fetched though. I do agree that quantum computing is going to open a lot of doors for science. It'll also be interesting in terms of security algorithms (in terms of how they'll prevent someone from brute forcing them with a quantum computer)

There is so much cool stuff in the works.
6 posted on 07/08/2005 10:53:04 AM PDT by tfecw (Vote Democrat, It's easier than working)
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7 posted on 07/08/2005 10:53:54 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get all the incumbents out of politics!)
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Teleportation of Macroscopic objects will never happen.

Even if it did, it wouldn't be teleportation so much as transmission an an exact description and exact duplication at the desitnation. You would make a copy.

If you could identify the exact position, charge, spin and energy of every particle and force carrier in the region of space that contains you, could translate that (what would amount to trillions upon trillions of exabytes of information) and could recreate that same region of space using a source of particles at the destination, would it still have your "soul"?.. would it be a sentient person with a mind?

Interesting question, but I think personally.. no.. it would not be "you".


8 posted on 07/08/2005 10:54:58 AM PDT by Bones75
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Sorry I don't want my atoms to spread around.. I'm with McCoy...


11 posted on 07/08/2005 10:57:06 AM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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Seems like a Far Side joke. Scientists in lab coats 'beaming' light across a lab. (Giggling in their lab coats while one turns on and off a flashlight.) All while getting Government money.
I like the European scientists that were studying what part of a woman's brain shuts off while having an orgasm. Who said academia was stuffy?


12 posted on 07/08/2005 10:57:14 AM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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Over the last few years, however, researchers have successfully teleported beams of light across a laboratory bench.

Either there's something missing in this description, or the researchers were exceptionally bored with themselves.

14 posted on 07/08/2005 10:59:41 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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I suggest they experiment first on the Islamic terrorist, byt teleporting them to the sun.


19 posted on 07/08/2005 11:06:29 AM PDT by Frank_Lee_Speaking
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JASON
What?  What?

ALEXANDER
(singsong)
Nothing.

JASON
I heard something. A squeal.

GWEN
Oh no. Everything's fine.

TEB
But... the animal is inside out.

JASON
I heard that! It's INSIDE OUT!

[Then the monstrous remains of the creature EXPLODES.]

TEB
And it exploded!

JASON
What? Did I just hear that It came back INSIDE OUT, and then It EXPLODED? Hello?

GWEN
Hold please.

20 posted on 07/08/2005 11:06:38 AM PDT by B Knotts
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Larry Niven wrote a great series of short stories dealing with the social impacts of a working teleport system.

what happens to the airline industry?
what happens to cars and that industry?
what happens to the airports and roads?

What about alibi's for crimes?

What about national identity if you can live literally wherever you want?

How do you protect against burglars (keep the transporter outside, of course)?

You ever seen the phenomenon of a crowd showing up at an event where news cameras are showing things live? Imagine if that crowd can be drawn from all over the world, instantly. Niven called them "flash riots." He even invented a gang that capitalized on these flash riots to loot and pillage in an organized way. They called themselves the Permanent Floating Riot Club.

What I really love is that Niven then wrote a series of essays about the physics of a transporter. For example, he postulated that the conservation of momentum laws would still apply, so if you got into a transporter at the equator (which would be rotating around the Earth's center at 1,000 miles per hour) and got out in NY (smaller diameter circle around the Earth's center) you would need to come out of the transport booth running at a couple of hundred miles per hour. Hopefully the door is open and facing the right way.

The stories are in his known space collections. Good stuff.

Me, I prefer dimensional portals. I don't want my atoms disassembled and scattered all over the universe. I'm a big fan of Bone's McCoy's attitude on the transporter.
25 posted on 07/08/2005 11:19:25 AM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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For the most part, it’s an exotic amalgam of things like .... polarization, as well as uncertainty principle, excited states and entanglement.

'Sounds like something from a soap opera...

27 posted on 07/08/2005 11:22:46 AM PDT by mikrofon (SciFI BUMP)
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Cool idea, but you can go first. I'll just watch.


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Not for the timid

28 posted on 07/08/2005 11:23:47 AM PDT by sharktrager (My life is like a box of chocolates, but someone took all the good ones.)
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No way in Hades I'm gettin' in that machine! A copy of me is not me. If they need my talents (lol) on Planet X so blamed badly, they'd better darn well figure out how to send a copy without skinning the original, excruciating nano-layer by excruciating nano-layer, alive.


41 posted on 07/08/2005 12:12:38 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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OK, so what happens when the Microsoft OS running the teleportation device, blue screens in mid-teleport?

Hello...yeah, this is tech support, are you sure you have enough RAM on the teleporter? OK, well in that case, I need you to shut down and reboot the system.

Like others have said, no thanks.

On a more sinister note, our terrorist friends would not be doing anything nice with one of these devices.

Best Regards

Sergio
42 posted on 07/08/2005 12:14:04 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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May the Force be with you

46 posted on 07/08/2005 12:25:24 PM PDT by Spruce
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weird


61 posted on 07/08/2005 1:20:39 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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What I really love is the way these scientists think that what they're working on is of any interest whatsoever to a normal person.

We watch Star Trek and think the transporters are cool. These dorks get a photon to "teleport" a distance of maybe twice its diameter in a lab and in their minds it's the same thing.

It's like humanity's interest for decades or longer in life on Mars. Martian canals, Barsoom, War of the Worlds invaders fill peoples imaginations. Then you see some geek at JPL gushing about their efforts to find "life on Mars!!!" - and they're talking about fossilized microbes or something!

They seem so desperate to be relevant that it's pathetic.
65 posted on 07/08/2005 1:36:06 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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