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Governor to close Schiavo inquiry [State attorney to Jeb: Michael S did not cause wife's collapse.]
St Petersburg Times ^ | July 8, 2005 | DAVID KARP and CHRIS TISCHDAVID KARP and CHRIS TISCH

Posted on 07/08/2005 2:59:50 PM PDT by summer

LARGO - In what could be a final chapter in the legal saga of Terri Schiavo, Pinellas-Pasco State Attorney Bernie McCabe says he could find no evidence that Michael Schiavo caused his wife's collapse 15 years ago.

In a June 30 letter to Gov. Jeb Bush, McCabe suggested ending the state's inquiry into the case.

Bush responded Thursday in a two-sentence letter to McCabe: "Based on your conclusions, I will follow your recommendation that the inquiry by the state be closed."

Bush asked McCabe last month to investigate Schiavo's collapse on the morning of Feb. 25, 1990. He cited questions left unanswered by an autopsy and inconsistent statements from Michael Schiavo about the time he found his wife on the floor of their apartment.

McCabe appointed two of his most seasoned prosecutors to review the evidence. They found nothing to indicate Michael Schiavo hurt his wife....

(Excerpt) Read more at sptimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: cultureofdisrespect; fl; hysterria; jeb; letthegirlrest; terri; terrischiavo; wifekiller
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To: summer; Graymatter

Graymatter has noted the same thing I do. You might just admit the misrepresentation and that it is a mistake. Which it could be. That it is a lie doesn't mean you are a liar -- it could be, as you seem to claim, an honest mistake in editing a long headline.


61 posted on 07/08/2005 4:28:06 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

I apologize to you if it seems like a misrepresentation. That was not my intention. Fitting the right amount of words into the headline was my intention. My apologies to you. But, you need not accuse someone who had no intent to mislead. You can read the article and decide what it says. I think the headline I posted IS accurate, but we can disagree on that.


62 posted on 07/08/2005 4:30:14 PM PDT by summer
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To: Graymatter

RE our post #60 - LOL..


63 posted on 07/08/2005 4:31:04 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Parents whould have no rights over a spouse.Parental rights end after marriage. There has been more than one marriage ruined because parents believe they still have control over their children and lobby against a spouse until their child gives in. Parents need to stay the hell out of marriages and do not have rights over a spouse and never should.

That said, everything the Terri supporters have said have been proven to be false but you people still won't give it up. Mike had to be the villan. How do you know she didn't want to die? How do you know that her soul was waiting to be free. It was waiting in limbo to be set loose and only needed the body to die to accomplish this.

She had no life. Do you call laying in bed not being able to discern what was happening, who was with you, what they were saying to be life?

How would her parents beserved if they had Terri home with them now? Would they be able to talk to her, carry on a decent conversation, interact with her? No...we all know that answer to these questions is no. Terri was not alive, not in the strictest sense, not in the sense she enjoyed life.

All of you people think you are for Terri when in reality you are the ones who would have hurt her the most if you had won and she was still alive.

Go ahead and flame me, but you are the ones who should be ashamed, tearing down a good man with your lies and vicious self righteousness.

64 posted on 07/08/2005 4:31:06 PM PDT by calex59
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To: summer
it seems to me - you are perfectly happy with the outcome of this matter because you do not accept divorce under any circumstances whatsoever.

No, I am not happy.

In 4 I said: "[Michael Schiavo murdered [Terri Schiavo], with assistance of the legal profession, last March."

In 10 I said: "when one spouse abuses the marriage, for example, through adultery, grounds for divorce exist", and then "Micheal's guardianship should have been declared null and void as soon as his adultery became known".

In 20 I clarify what grounds for divorce exist: "adultery, abandonment, physical abuse".

I don't know how else to explain myself to you.

Michael Schiavo is guilty of adultery and abandonment of his wife and therefore was not a lawful guardian. Justice demanded that his guardianshipp were terminated and passed over to Terri's parents, or (theoretically) the state. I agree that a law that allows for divorce initiated on behalf of a spouse who is not able to communicate and suffered adutery, abandonment or abuse, is a good idea. I do not think that a law that allows for divorce merely on a disagreement regarding medical care is a good idea.

Please tell me if I have not made myself clear. I have honestly tried.

65 posted on 07/08/2005 4:31:31 PM PDT by annalex
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To: summer

You proposed law would destroy the union when parents go after alimony due upon the divorce. There would be folks killing estranged daughters to file for divorce and collect their newly gained legacy.


66 posted on 07/08/2005 4:31:35 PM PDT by bert ( The final Crusade is possible......... just piss us off a little more.)
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To: Spiff
But he did cause her death when he had her dehydrated and starved to death 15 years later.

This happens sometimes in families, but if it happens, it should happen because a) there is written instructions for it to happen from the subject person or b) the person who is the correct legal guardian is making the decision without a written directive.

He was not her actual legal guardian in the eyes of those who feel the circumstances favored her parents in the legal guardianship role.
67 posted on 07/08/2005 4:33:23 PM PDT by summer
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To: bvw

Try to post the article and see what happens. There is a limit on how many words can be in a title.


68 posted on 07/08/2005 4:35:16 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< OurFlorida.true.ws Impeach Judge Greer)
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To: calex59
Parents whould have no rights over a spouse.Parental rights end after marriage.

What if a written legal directive of a spouse appoints parents as the legal guardian -- and not the spouse? That would have to be honored. So, the parents' right may or may NOT end, depending on the wishes of that adult child spouse.
69 posted on 07/08/2005 4:35:33 PM PDT by summer
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To: tutstar

Re your post #68 - Thank you, tutstar.


70 posted on 07/08/2005 4:35:55 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer

It should never happen -- it is murder. No different then assisted suicide at best.


71 posted on 07/08/2005 4:36:23 PM PDT by bvw
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To: annalex
Michael Schiavo is guilty of adultery and abandonment of his wife and therefore was not a lawful guardian. Justice demanded that his guardianshipp were terminated and passed over to Terri's parents, or (theoretically) the state. I agree that a law that allows for divorce initiated on behalf of a spouse who is not able to communicate and suffered adutery, abandonment or abuse, is a good idea. I do not think that a law that allows for divorce merely on a disagreement regarding medical care is a good idea.

Please tell me if I have not made myself clear. I have honestly tried.


Yes, I think you were very clear here. Thanks for taking the time to clarify your position.
72 posted on 07/08/2005 4:37:47 PM PDT by summer
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To: tutstar; bvw; summer
There is a limit on how many words can be in a title.

This is no reason to make up a misleading title.

73 posted on 07/08/2005 4:37:52 PM PDT by annalex
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To: summer

We don't disagree on that. You now agree you did lie. The headline as you now admit to purposefully and carefully editing it is a complete misrepresentation. It is a lie as to the findings.


74 posted on 07/08/2005 4:38:35 PM PDT by bvw
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To: tutstar

The limit on words doesn't matter in this case ... what does matter is the meaning of words. Words have meanings. The meaning of the words used in this threads headline are a total misrepresentation of the findings.


75 posted on 07/08/2005 4:40:39 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
It should never happen -- it is murder. No different then assisted suicide at best.

What if a person is terminally ill, and wants only to be left at home with loved ones to die? A nd has that in writing?

Even if there are experimental treatments far away that might help?

Shoud the person be forced to travel and have painful treatments when all the person wants at this point is to die peacefully at home? It is the theory of hospice care that such a person's wishes should be honored. Do you disagree?
76 posted on 07/08/2005 4:40:47 PM PDT by summer
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To: bvw
We don't disagree on that. You now agree you did lie

LOL...I sincerely hope you are not in a position of authority in your employment! Everyone would be guilty of everything at all times, even if they were innocent!
77 posted on 07/08/2005 4:42:06 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Minimal standards of care for a dependent must be met in any situation. Not to meet them is a crime of which only the level of severity depends on particular circumstances. Food, water, comfort.

The situation at hand -- Terri Schindler-Schiavo -- was a case of murder and even would have been so if the only difference was she DID (and she did not) have such a contract, such an "advance medical directive" or "living will" -- what an oxymoron that latter term!

78 posted on 07/08/2005 4:47:15 PM PDT by bvw
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To: summer

You confuse fear of being guilty with fear of punishment.


79 posted on 07/08/2005 4:51:53 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw; summer

What good does it accomplish, or what ill, to say summer lied? Or summer misled? Better to say the subject line is misleading, not summer.
This is why with 4000 or so posts, I have only started maybe 4 threads. Just plain scared of y'all.


80 posted on 07/08/2005 4:53:30 PM PDT by Graymatter
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