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Minutemen headed here warned they, too, will be watched Rights groups, archbishop say...
Houston Chronicle ^ | July 9, 2005 | EDWARD HEGSTROM

Posted on 07/09/2005 5:16:38 PM PDT by bayourod

July 9, 2005, 3:13PM

Minutemen headed here warned they, too, will be watched Rights groups, archbishop say border watchers aren't welcome By EDWARD HEGSTROM Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

The local Catholic archbishop and immigrant rights activists want to roll up the welcome mat before the Minutemen arrive to patrol for illegal immigrants in Houston.

The Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, an organization working to stop the flow of illegal immigrants, announced this week that it would send observers to watch day laborers in Houston beginning in October. Previous plans called for placing patrols only along the Mexican border.

But Archbishop Joseph A. Fiorenza said the Minutemen would not be welcome in Houston.

"We stand against any attempts of outsiders to come into Houston to abuse and intimidate our immigrant communities," Fiorenza said in a statement issued Friday.

Separately, immigrant rights organizations announced that they would fight fire with fire by forming an organization to counteract the Minutemen.

"For every Minuteman patrolling, we will have at least 10 people patrolling them," said Maria Jimenez, a longtime local activist now associated with the Central American Resource Center, or CRECEN.

Jimenez and CRECEN leader Teodoro Aguiluz threatened to file a lawsuit if they observe the Minutemen doing anything illegal.

"We will respond to your organization with our organization," Jimenez said to the Minutemen. "We're not shy about it."

The advocates have called on the city to officially "disinvite" the Minutemen, but city leaders say that is unlikely. The mayor has said he does not see the need to pass an official resolution on the subject, and City Councilman Adrian Garcia said it would be hard to promote such a measure without mayoral support.

Jimenez estimated that there are 50 informal labor markets in Houston where day laborers gather looking for work from contractors. She said pro-immigrant groups would have at least 10 observers at each site.

One of the sites is just down the street from the CRECEN office, at the corner of Bellaire and Hillcroft, where dozens of workers gather every morning looking for work.

A city-funded day labor site is in the area, but the vast majority of workers prefer to seek work in the streets.

Some of those workers said Friday that they worry about the Minutemen.

"It's like racism," said one, who identified himself only as Juan. "All we want is a chance to survive."

Drawing some support Business owners in the area say they might welcome some effort to get the day laborers off the streets.

"They mess up the surroundings with their trash, and they are very aggressive, which scares the customers," said Mohammed Uddin, an immigrant from Bangladesh who owns the Citgo station at Hillcroft and Bellaire. "It's bad for business."

Some of the immigrants say they worry about the potential for violence. At the CRECEN news conference, representatives noted that many Latin Americans have had bad experiences with vigilantes back home, and they drew direct parallels with the Minutemen.

"In the countries we come from, these groups outside the law are known as death squads" or paramilitaries, Aguiluz said.

But Bill Parmley, who heads the Minutemen in Texas, dismissed the comparison to Central American death squads as absurd.

"The only thing we're going to be carrying is a video camera," Parmley said. "That's the difference between their country and our country."

There were no reports of violence during the initial patrols the Minutemen held in Arizona last April. But some law officials have expressed a concern about the potential for vigilante violence.

The Minutemen in Texas originated out of a series of meetings this year in Goliad County, where landowners have become alarmed by the illegal immigrants being smuggled along the area's rural roads. Ranchers and other owners began holding meetings, and area law officers attended.

Bee County Sheriff Carlos Carrizales said he attended the first two meetings but stopped going after becoming concerned by the tone.

"During the second meeting, someone in the back shouted: 'Can't we just shoot 'em,' " in reference to illegal immigrants, Carrizales recalls. "Then others started to feed on that."

Checking backgrounds Parmley concedes that the statement was made, but he disputes the sheriff's contention that others joined in. The Minuteman leader said those who want to join his organization must go through an extensive background check, which includes looking not only for criminal history but also for things like white-supremacist tendencies.

Parmley is the official Texas leader of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, the group that was formed in Arizona. He said the campaign in Houston will be led by volunteers who live in Houston.

A separate group, which calls itself the Texas Minutemen, has been formed out of the Dallas area and plans to patrol near El Paso in October.


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1 posted on 07/09/2005 5:16:38 PM PDT by bayourod
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To: bayourod

Screw the bishop. And screw the invaders, too. It's our nation Rod. Give it up.


2 posted on 07/09/2005 5:19:14 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: bayourod

This archbishop sounds like a real tool.


3 posted on 07/09/2005 5:19:22 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: bayourod
"outsiders" intimidating "immigrant communities"? This Archbishop doesn't have sufficient command of the English language to lead his flock does he.

"Immigrant communities", by definition, are "outsiders".

Besides which, Americans are not OUTSIDERS in their own country.

Are there no good Catholics left who know what to do to get this pompous windbag shipped back to Rome?

4 posted on 07/09/2005 5:21:17 PM PDT by muawiyah (/sarcasm and invective)
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To: bayourod

Okay, okay, we get it. You're pro crime, you don't have to post it every time you get on FR. Tell us something new, like how much you love puppies or something.


5 posted on 07/09/2005 5:21:52 PM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: bayourod
"They mess up the surroundings with their trash, and they are very aggressive, which scares the customers," said Mohammed Uddin, an immigrant from Bangladesh who owns the Citgo station at Hillcroft and Bellaire. "It's bad for business."

This from a LEGAL immigrant. Should tell you something, Rod.

6 posted on 07/09/2005 5:22:40 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: digitalbrownshirt
Tell us something new, like how much you love puppies or something.

Rod is the foremost chihuahua breeder in the aouth.

7 posted on 07/09/2005 5:24:06 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: bayourod

I hope those dope smoking kids in their ACLU tee-shirts show up again.


8 posted on 07/09/2005 5:24:43 PM PDT by Founding Father ( Republicans control the Oval Office, Senate and House, but still can't govern.)
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To: muawiyah
Are there no good Catholics left who know what to do to get this pompous windbag shipped back to Rome?

The laity is ignored by the Church (except when the basket is going around during the offertory.)

Look what it took to get rid of Cardinal Law.

9 posted on 07/09/2005 5:26:09 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: bayourod
"For every Minuteman patrolling, we will have at least 10 people illegal immigrants patrolling them," said Maria Jimenez
10 posted on 07/09/2005 5:26:36 PM PDT by Brian328i
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To: bayourod
Excellent.

And when the 'good' Bishop Fiorenza sees that no ones rights are being violated, maybe he will stop making a fool of himself. An apology would be nice to for impugning the Minutemen as well.

I suspect the Minutemen welcome all of the scrutiny these no borders traitors care to bring. It only proves the open border lobby to be the idiots most people know them to be.
11 posted on 07/09/2005 5:26:41 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Children's classic songs updated for Islam "If you're happy and you know it, Go Kaboom!")
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To: everyone

Well, guess what, Archbishop. They're Americans. They don't need your permission.


12 posted on 07/09/2005 5:27:43 PM PDT by California Patriot
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To: buccaneer81

Well, do that to this guy, whatever it is.


13 posted on 07/09/2005 5:27:49 PM PDT by muawiyah (/sarcasm and invective)
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To: muawiyah
Well, do that to this guy, whatever it is.

Well, it would involve the condoning of pedophile priests and perpetrating a cover-up. Let's hope this Archbishop isn't that low.

14 posted on 07/09/2005 5:31:15 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: buccaneer81
Hey, that Archbishop thinks Americans have no interests in their own country. Guy like that probably embuggers a kid a day, or maybe two.

Somebody must have pictures.

15 posted on 07/09/2005 5:32:09 PM PDT by muawiyah (/sarcasm and invective)
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To: taxed2death
Power to him. I don't care what the motivation is so long as there are more eyes on the border. If this turncoat archbishop can talk his congregation into standing watch at the border then it is all for the best.

Who knows, perhaps after the ACLU joins in, and some rock bands, along with a few french nuns and a UN envoy. That could attract a pack of hippies just for the hell of it. Then the sanitation department will step in, along with the parametics, and some police officers. Which would in turn attract the news services, and the politicians; and, at the end of the day, we may even see a few border patrol agents and ICE.
16 posted on 07/09/2005 5:32:11 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: ARCADIA

LOL....hmmmm I like your thinking on this one.......


17 posted on 07/09/2005 5:34:27 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: bayourod

he sure has his panties in a wad, maybe he run out of little boys to play with


18 posted on 07/09/2005 5:34:42 PM PDT by antti tuuri
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To: All

Notice the hit and run characteristics of Rod's postings? Even Zot bait sticks around sometimes.


19 posted on 07/09/2005 5:35:27 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: bayourod

[["For every Minuteman patrolling, we will have at least 10 people patrolling them," said Maria Jimenez, a longtime local activist now associated with the Central American Resource Center, or CRECEN.]]

That's good because we will be watching your sorry illegal alien abetting asses watching the minutemen.


20 posted on 07/09/2005 5:37:36 PM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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