NEWSWEEK: Matt Cooper's Source

Newsweek ^ | July 18 issue | Michael Isikoff

[GeorgeW23225]

Right you are!!

CIA undercover operatives do NOT seek out publicity and fame. Mr. Wilson and Ms. Plame do.

End of case!!

P.S.

I actually saw the photograph in Vanity Fair magazine. Unbelievable!!! AND.....it was published BEFORE this whole alledged incident took place...

[carl in alaska]

Well I don't think Rove deliberately talked to Cooper about "Wilson's wife" just to make the Democrats look dumb. But that's a good point you make about the Vanity Fair article. Covert CIA agents make sure they do not get written up in magazine articles, so Wilson and Plame's starring role in Vanity Fair is hardly the behavior of a covert agent. Rove really doesn't have to make any special efforts to make the Democrats look dumb--the Dems do that every day just by being themselves....lol. If they weren't so destructive to our national security, the DemocRATs would really be a hilarious group.

[MarineOne]

There's some great stories about high-profile personalities and celebrities who were effective and important covert agents but that's besides the point as is a picture of Wilson.

Far as I's concerned, WH officials shouldn't be explaining to the national media the identity and work of anyone in the CIA. Not the most junior clerk or even a janitor, the fewer people who know, the better.

I believe that's pretty much SOP at Langley.

But if you're ok with the talk then there's nothing I can tell you to change that, you know the game. I assure you I'm big on keeping such matters of the qt and you won't change my opinion on that. Just responsible for and offered my opinion is all.

[PhiKapMom]

All this crap never ceases to amaze me -- hard to believe anyone would use the Houston Chronicle for a source and you are so right, he was not involved in the 1992 campaign of Bush 41.

Thanks for posting -- facts seem in short supply recently! :(

[followerofchrist]

"The "Rove fired by Bush Sr." thing was a myth..."

I asked the poster to clarify and give details. There's probably alot of mis and disinformation on both sides.

[TNdandelion]

ping

[piasa]

No question, Niger's no place anybody in their right might would want to be. I didn't mean to suggest that Wilson's motivation for going there was cocktails and the scenery. He was there to get himself some credibility before attacking Bush on the yellowcake story. That's all he was there for.

Joseph Wilson apparently has business interests in Niger and a number of other African countries. He said in the Vanity Fair article that he had investments there. His company is the Rock Creek Corp and it has some odd associations of its own... you should see who it shared offices with...

* Joseph Wilson IV : Rock Creek Corporation, an investment company controlled by [Mohamed ?] Al Amoudi and chaired since 1997 by a Lebanese businessman very connected into the power circles of Washington, Elias Aburdene. Former adviser of the Franklin Bank National in Washington DC, Aburdene at the start of his accession to the head (position) of Rock Creek Corporation hired the ex - adviser to Bill Clinton for African affairs, Joseph Wilson IV. The latter had already met Mohamed Al Amoudi in 1997 at the time of a reception organized for the World Bank by Westar Group (LAW n.794). --- via Shermy

Also, note this about Wilson :

For example, Mr. Wilson had long been a bitter critic of the current administration, writing in such left-wing publications as The Nation that under President Bush, "America has entered one of it periods of historical madness" and had "imperial ambitions." What's more, he was affiliated with the pro-Saudi Middle East Institute and he had recently been the keynote speaker for the Education for Peace in Iraq Center, a far-Left group that opposed not only the U.S. military intervention in Iraq but also the sanctions and the no-fly zones that protected Iraqi Kurds and Shias from being slaughtered by Saddam.
---------- "Spy Games : Was it really a secret that Joe Wilson's wife worked for the CIA?", http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.asp?ref=/may/may200309291022.asp , September 29, 2003, 10:22 a.m.

Just for fun take a look sometime who EPIC considered to be great guest speakers.

[samadams2000]

Chrissy Mathews looked like he was gonna wet himself trying to equate this non story into Watergate. This could be the one that sinks him and his pal Davie Gregory.

[victim soul]

Wow - the plot thickens and thickens.

[doug from upland]

WILL DFU FACE A GRAND JURY FOR NAMING STEVEN D. LAVINE OF THE CIA?

[FReethesheeples]

Could minor Ambassador Joe Wilson himself have been the source in blowing his own Wife's "cover" (even if she had not been a covert CIA agent at the time of the alleged "leaks")?

It is distinctly possible, (though it may be unlikely that Joe Wilson himself directly was NY Times Judith Miller's source), since Joe Wilson himself evidently routinely bragged openly to strangers about her CIA employment, prior to such "cover" being "blown" in the press.

Here's an example of Joe's apparently routine and open bragging about Valerie being a "CIA agent," which became known directly to me over a year ago:

He certainly bragged about it per a famous and highly reliable source's (named below) account of his own face-to-face encounter with Amb. Joe Wilson prior to Valerie Plame's "outing" as a CIA agent/employee.

Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an "off the record") I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee.

Victor Davis Hanson (Wilson presumably knew Victor Davis Hanson wrote regularly for NRO (National Review Online), had done OpEds for the Wall street Journal, and other publications, and had his own Website with a widespread following) said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same "Green Room" before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful ("hot") wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative.

I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast.

However, it is now easy to surmise that Joe Wilson is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, vain, egotistical, bragaddocio-opportunist, so this account is perfectly consistent with Valerie Plame's TWO photo shoots in Vanity Fair.

[Checkers]

see ya

[Checkers]

"Now we have a pervert in the Governor's office..."

Troll-liar!

[Checkers]

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[Checkers]

"There's probably alot of mis and disinformation on both sides."

Nope. It's not coming from this side, I'm here ta tell ya.

[Howlin]

Rove's biggest sin is that he's made a career of beating your party's brains in.

I just saw this post. Absolutely fabulous!

"Spy Who Came In For the Vanity Fair Glamour Shot"

Now that put me on the floor............LOL!