Oh wait, that's Hamburglar... I get those two theiving crooks confused.
Posted on 07/11/2005 5:27:52 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Miller is about the only one who didn't write a story on this, yet she is in jail. She's protecting someone high up, and it ain't Karl Rove.
I'll bet you that the person she's protecting(if it's not herself) is sweating bullets out of fear.
I wonder when the Grand Jury will retire? Anybody have a guess?
What is the typical term of a grand jury?
http://www.abanet.org/media/faqjury.html
In virtually every federal jurisdiction, there is at least one grand jury sitting every day. Generally, most federal indictments involve grand juries that sit for five days a week for a period of one month. For cases involving complex and long-term investigations (such as those involving organized crime, drug conspiracies or political corruption), "long term" grand juries will be impaneled. Such "long term" grand juries typically sit fewer days each week, and their terms can be extended in six month increments for up to three years. The schedules vary among the states that still have grand juries.
Grand Jury Hears Plame Case
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,581456,00.html
Because he was told after the fact---probably by Novak's source, is my guess.
Thanks for the ping!
(I have not read this whole thread yet so excuse me if this has already been proposed.)
Rove should come out very loudly and very publicly and pronounce:
"If Judith Miller wishes to testify that I am her primary (or secondary, or any other) source for any information about Valerie Plame, I hereby waive, completely and unconditionally, any and all "confidentiality" agreements that Judith Miller may believe exist between me and her. She is hereby free to testify about any and all conversations which she may have had with me."
I want to see the NY Times and this scumbag Miller smoked out.
The above statement from Rove would do that.
November.
I thought I read that the Grand Jury was going until October. I hope that if there is any way for the Special Prosecutor to stretch it out, he does so. I want Miller to rot in prison.
Yes, a black cat named India, nicknamed Willy.
I heard on another thread they would retire in October.
Bingo. And that's exactly why this e-mail is damaging. Again I say if the e-mail is true.
Well I do like to spice it up now and then with bushbot, which is the same amount of effort. Don't worry though I've got several backup keyboards on hand. :-P
I honestly did not know this. I have only ever heard about and/or seen the dogs. Thanks.
Mark Twain referred to a man who had been tarred and feathered and was being ridden out of town on a rail. He said, "If it wasn't for the honor of the thing, I'd rather walk." See below for more honesty on the subject than the Times can ever muster.
Congressman Billybob
I believe CBS made a claim similar to this threat
I also recall reading the NYT had to sell their building just to pay the bills
They keep this up and there won't be anything left of the Old Grey Lady
Don't go chicken crap and take one part out of context.
Read the whole classification.
Rove did not break the law.....and it seems that Plame was not Covert.
Sorry, but you missed it.
Nets Ignore How Senate Report Discredited
Joe Wilson’s Claims
The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report released on Friday discredited Joseph Wilson’s claim that his wife, a CIA operative, had nothing to do with the decision to send him to Niger to check claims that Iraq had sought to purchase uranium and that the report determined that what he found actually backed up the statement made by President Bush in his State of the Union address about Iraq’s quest. But since the Washington Post on Saturday outlined the explosive revelations in the committee’s report released on Friday, few media outlets have bothered to update viewers on the serious doubts raised about Wilson’s claims which the media so eagerly publicized over the past year.
Last year, Wilson earned a lot of publicity when he complained about how someone in the White House supposedly told columnist Bob Novak the name of his wife who works at the CIA, a revelation he portrayed as an intimidation tactic, and again in May this year when he wrote a book denouncing the Bush administration’s Iraq policy and alleged misuse of intelligence. Plus, in between and since, the media have offered regular updates on the Justice Department’s probe of who revealed the name of his wife.
NBC has shown the most interest in publicizing his claims, but none in reporting the fresh disclosures which undermine him.
The July 21, 2003 NBC Nightly News, for instance, led with Andrea Mitchell on the charge by Wilson, who claimed to have disproved the Niger uranium story, that he is “now the subject of a smear campaign by senior administration officials” who leaked that his wife is a CIA operative. Today featured the Mitchell story the next morning: "Former Ambassador Joe Wilson, one of the first to debunk the Iraq-Niger uranium link almost a year before the State of the Union speech....Now the retired diplomat tells NBC News the administration is striking back. Leaking his wife's covert job at the CIA to reporters."
Last September, the networks went into a frenzy over Wilson. An excerpt from the Tuesday, September 30, 2003 CyberAlert:
The networks entered full scandal mode on Monday with the evening shows leading for a second straight night with the news that the Justice Department was investigating who in the administration back in July told columnist Bob Novak a CIA operatives’s name, though stories conflicted on whether the wife of Joe Wilson, the man who since July has been on a personal PR crusade to undermine President Bush’s State of the Union line about Iraq seeking uranium in Africa, was an “agent,” an “operative” or a “covert” operative, whether the leak came from “senior administration officials,” “top White House officials” or just “White House officials” and, despite Wilson on Monday morning having specifically admitted he went too far in accusing Karl Rove, both CBS and NBC relayed Wilson’s naming of Rove.
The hype began Sunday night when CBS Evening News anchor John Roberts led the show: “The Justice Department tonight is investigating whether to launch a criminal probe of the White House after the CIA complained someone at 1600 Pennsylvania may have leaked the classified identity of an agency operative. If those allegations are true, whoever is responsible for the leak could be headed to jail for ten years.”
Over on ABC’s World News Tonight/Sunday, anchor Terry Moran intoned: “Tonight, the Bush White House is facing a potential criminal investigation. ABC News has learned the Justice Department has launched a preliminary probe into charges that top White House officials leaked the identity of an undercover CIA agent. That's a serious violation of federal law....”
Fast forward to Monday night and NBC’s Jim Miklaszewski offered this warning: “If tried and convicted, the leakers could get ten years in prison. But the political fallout could be much worse for the White House whose credibility on Iraq is already on the line.”
MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann teased his Countdown show with the most derisive characterization of White House action: "The Washington Post reports not only did the White House out an undercover CIA agent as political revenge, but it tried six different reporters before it found one willing to help."
An excited Aaron Brown proposed at the top of Monday’s NewsNight on CNN: “It seems like the good old days, doesn't it? Or perhaps the bad old days depending on your point of view.” Brown explained: “There were calls in Washington today for a special prosecutor to be appointed to investigate the White House.” Brown conceded: “It is, of course, not likely to happen. The country seemed to have its fill of special prosecutors during the Clinton years but it is an interesting argument. Can the administration be trusted to investigate itself over the outing of a CIA agent? We suspect the answer, as it so often does, depends on who you voted for.”
After “the Whip,” Brown set up the first of three stories on the subject: “We begin tonight with a dark corner of a murky place with a lot to learn and a long way to go. There ought to be a better way of characterizing the affair brewing in Washington over the CIA operative, her husband, the White House and the war but there isn't not yet, certainly nothing quick and snappy like scandal or cover-up or anything with a 'gate’ in it, though at the end of the day, one day it may turn out to be all of the above or nothing at all. So far we can only say two things for certain. There is clearly growing political dimensions to this and there are still far more questions than there are answers.”...
END of Excerpt of previous CyberAlert
For the September 30 item in full: www.mediaresearch.org
This year, Today brought Wilson aboard twice in May to plug his book, The Politics of Truth: Inside the Lies that Led to War and Betrayed My Wife's CIA Identity. He appeared on the Saturday, May 1 edition and again on Monday, May 3 on which Katie Couric relayed: “Another book critical of the Bush administration hits stores today, this one by former Ambassador Joseph Wilson. He says he told the truth about the evidence against Iraq, and his wife paid the price.” She cued him up: “You claimed the White House misused intelligence, quote, 'to exaggerate the Iraqi threat.’ Shortly after that, your wife's name became public and her occupation. Why do you believe your wife was brought into this? Was it a simple payback, in your view, by the Bush administration for refuting claims that were made in the State of the Union Address?”
MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann has yet to update its viewers, but its May 4 edition featured a segment with Wilson, which MSNBC’s announcer plugged at the time: "Next on Countdown: Blowing the cover of a CIA operative can be a deadly mistake. Joseph Wilson claims the White House did just that to his wife. Now, Keith goes one-on-one with him about his explosive new book where he points fingers and names names.”
About the only network show the MRC analysis team has seen mention how the Senate report undermines Wilson’s premises: An item which validated the “Stories you won’t find on any other Sunday show” title for a segment of Fox News Sunday. On the July 11 show, the MRC’s Megan McCormack observed, host Chris Wallace informed his viewers:
"Former ambassador Joe Wilson made a name for himself when he accused the Bush administration of misleading the nation about efforts by Iraq to buy uranium from Africa. Remember those famous sixteen words in the 2003 State of the Union address? Well, it turns out buried in the Senate intelligence report, is news that the issue of whether Iraq tried to buy the so-called yellowcake from Niger has not been discounted, but is still an open issue. Wilson also said his wife, CIA agent Valerie Plame, had nothing to do with him being sent to Africa in the first place. But the Senate report says it was Plame who pushed her husband for the assignment. Administration officials are now being investigated for leaking Plame's CIA connection to a reporter. The Senate report may bolster the argument the administration was trying to cast doubt on Wilson's expertise, not trying to out an undercover agent, which is a crime."
Another mention came on Tuesday’s Wolf Blitzer Reports, but in story about the status of the leak probe. David Ensor, however, ignored how the Senate report questioned the assumption that Iraq did not seek uranium in Africa, so only half credit to CNN:
“A reference in the recent Senate Intelligence Committee report to Ambassador Wilson and his wife has also created a flap in Washington. The report says that an unnamed CIA officer told the committee staff that the former ambassador's wife offered up his name to make a trip to the African nation of Niger for the CIA and to check out a report that Iraq might have been trying to buy raw uranium there. That report of course later turned out to be false. The suggestion contradicts Wilson's account of what happened. Wilson has declined to be interviewed on camera today, but told CNN he's outraged by the suggestion in the Senate report, which he said is false innuendo. 'She did not propose me,’ he said. 'Others at the CIA did so.’ And a senior CIA official told him that that is his understanding, too.”
Other than that, I believe FNC’s Special Report with Brit Hume has also mentioned the development (in a panel discussion), and MSNBC’s Scarborough Country may have too, but that’s about it even though conservative have picked up on it, including Rush Limbaugh on his show on Tuesday prompted by a National Review Online piece I’ve excerpted below.
But first, an excerpt from the top reporter Susan Schmidt’s overlooked July 10 article, “Plame's Input Is Cited on Niger Mission: Report Disputes Wilson's Claims on Trip, Wife's Role.” The excerpt:
Former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, dispatched by the CIA in February 2002 to investigate reports that Iraq sought to reconstitute its nuclear weapons program with uranium from Africa, was specifically recommended for the mission by his wife, a CIA employee, contrary to what he has said publicly.
Wilson last year launched a public firestorm with his accusations that the administration had manipulated intelligence to build a case for war. He has said that his trip to Niger should have laid to rest any notion that Iraq sought uranium there and has said his findings were ignored by the White House.
Wilson's assertions -- both about what he found in Niger and what the Bush administration did with the information -- were undermined yesterday in a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee report.
The panel found that Wilson's report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts. And contrary to Wilson's assertions and even the government's previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence that made its way into 16 fateful words in President Bush's January 2003 State of the Union address.
Yesterday's report said that whether Iraq sought to buy lightly enriched "yellowcake" uranium from Niger is one of the few bits of prewar intelligence that remains an open question. Much of the rest of the intelligence suggesting a buildup of weapons of mass destruction was unfounded, the report said.
The report turns a harsh spotlight on what Wilson has said about his role in gathering prewar intelligence, most pointedly by asserting that his wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, recommended him.
Plame's role could be significant in an ongoing investigation into whether a crime was committed when her name and employment were disclosed to reporters last summer.
Administration officials told columnist Robert D. Novak then that Wilson, a partisan critic of Bush's foreign policy, was sent to Niger at the suggestion of Plame, who worked in the nonproliferation unit at CIA. The disclosure of Plame's identity, which was classified, led to an investigation into who leaked her name.
The report may bolster the rationale that administration officials provided the information not to intentionally expose an undercover CIA employee, but to call into question Wilson's bona fides as an investigator into trafficking of weapons of mass destruction. To charge anyone with a crime, prosecutors need evidence that exposure of a covert officer was intentional.
The report states that a CIA official told the Senate committee that Plame "offered up" Wilson's name for the Niger trip, then on Feb. 12, 2002, sent a memo to a deputy chief in the CIA's Directorate of Operations saying her husband "has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity." The next day, the operations official cabled an overseas officer seeking concurrence with the idea of sending Wilson, the report said.
Wilson has asserted that his wife was not involved in the decision to send him to Niger....
The report also said Wilson provided misleading information to The Washington Post last June. He said then that he concluded the Niger intelligence was based on documents that had clearly been forged because "the dates were wrong and the names were wrong."
"Committee staff asked how the former ambassador could have come to the conclusion that the 'dates were wrong and the names were wrong' when he had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were in the reports," the Senate panel said. Wilson told the panel he may have been confused and may have "misspoken" to reporters. The documents -- purported sales agreements between Niger and Iraq -- were not in U.S. hands until eight months after Wilson made his trip to Niger....
Wilson said that a former prime minister of Niger, Ibrahim Assane Mayaki, was unaware of any sales contract with Iraq, but said that in June 1999 a businessman approached him, insisting that he meet with an Iraqi delegation to discuss "expanding commercial relations" between Niger and Iraq -- which Mayaki interpreted to mean they wanted to discuss yellowcake sales. A report CIA officials drafted after debriefing Wilson said that "although the meeting took place, Mayaki let the matter drop due to UN sanctions on Iraq."
According to the former Niger mining minister, Wilson told his CIA contacts, Iraq tried to buy 400 tons of uranium in 1998....
END of Excerpt
For the Washington Post story in full: www.washingtonpost.com
On Monday, National Review Online posted a piece by Cliff May, “Out Man in Niger: Exposed and discredited, Joe Wilson might consider going back,” which does a good job of documenting Wilson’s pomposity and of summarizing the fairly complicated sequence of claims and how they have been discredited. See: www.nationalreview.com
http://tinyurl.com/apaeh
Oh wait, that's Hamburglar... I get those two theiving crooks confused.
Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters
Bingo. And that's exactly why this e-mail is damaging...."
How do we know that it was in a covert role that Plame pushed hubby? She may have been speaking as an analyst. How do we know that Rove knew she was speaking as covert agent? Lots of people work for the CIA. Few of them are covert agents.
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