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Scuttle the Shuttle! Space Shuttle is a Dangerous Waste of Taxpayer Funds
Space Frontier Foundation ^ | 07/11/05 | Rick Tumlinson

Posted on 07/12/2005 7:28:59 PM PDT by KevinDavis

Los Angeles, CA, July 11, 2005 – In anticipation of this week's planned return to flight of NASA's Space Shuttle Discovery, the Space Frontier Foundation renewed its call for the orbiters to be retired. The Foundation, which for over 15 years has criticized the Shuttle system as too costly, urged NASA and the Congress to announce a firm date when the last orbiter will fly.

“If it were up to us the shuttle would never have flown in the first place,” said the Foundation's Rick Tumlinson. “Far from opening space to the American people, it has weighed down our space program with its bloated budgets, massive support network and tragic cost in terms of human life. It's time is passed. We should kill it as soon as possible, before more money gets wasted and, heaven forbid, anyone else gets hurt.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: frontierfoundation; getinthehouse; nasa; ntsa; ricktumlinson; shuttlediscovery; space; spaceexploration; stfu
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We should dumped the Shuttle many years ago. Private industry can send humans to space at a cheaper rate...
1 posted on 07/12/2005 7:28:59 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 07/12/2005 7:29:57 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: KevinDavis

Yeah, we could be sending the cash to Africa instead!


3 posted on 07/12/2005 7:31:23 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: KevinDavis

Right now, it can't. Thanks to NASA's efforts during the Klinton era, there are no truly private surface-to-orbit systems for passengers or cargo. Under Klinton, NASA systematically destroyed anything that resembled a private spacecraft through FUD, rumormongering, and other nasty tricks.

Like it or not, it's all we have until the X Prize boys (and girls) come up with a commercial replacement.


4 posted on 07/12/2005 7:32:33 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Revolting cat!

Not cash, send a check via the shuttle.


5 posted on 07/12/2005 7:32:45 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Spktyr; All

That is true...


6 posted on 07/12/2005 7:33:50 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: KevinDavis

Not only that, but the author is wrong on the price of human life. If all humans were so weak-stomached then mankind never would have ventured Out of Africa (if you subscribe to this theory).


7 posted on 07/12/2005 7:33:52 PM PDT by xrp (Fox News Channel should rename itself the Missing Persons Network)
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To: KevinDavis

Yes, scrap that wasteful space program. Let China get a foothold in space.

Sheesh, what were we thinking.


8 posted on 07/12/2005 7:36:05 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: xrp; All

I agree that the Shuttle should be scrapped, however, we Americans should go into space. We should continue to take risks. There are going to be some deaths, but we must continue...


9 posted on 07/12/2005 7:36:46 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: KevinDavis

The day there is a commercially available replacement or replacements (perhaps one passeger transport and one freighter type, as current aircraft are organized today) is the day the Shuttles should be packed up and sent off to museums. Then NASA should start building an interplanetary craft in orbit (the current insane Shuttle budget would just about cover the expense, IIRC) using those commercial craft to "shuttle" stuff up to orbit.


10 posted on 07/12/2005 7:36:58 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: KevinDavis

I am tired of 60's technologies floating around.

where are the photon torpedos and those hot star trak girls

and no dont post those convention chicks


11 posted on 07/12/2005 7:37:38 PM PDT by Flavius ("... we should reconnoitre assiduosly... " Vegetius)
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To: Frank_Discussion

FYI ping


12 posted on 07/12/2005 7:38:36 PM PDT by afnamvet (Jet noise...The Sound of Freedom)
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To: KevinDavis

"Private industry can send humans to space at a cheaper rate..."

That has yet to be proven and I tend to doubt it. I do support private spaceflights however.


13 posted on 07/12/2005 7:39:29 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Spktyr; All

I agree wtih you 100%


14 posted on 07/12/2005 7:39:40 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: KevinDavis

We will need the shuttle until a replacement is built. But we must NOT give up sending Americans into space. It is vital to several interests, including both exploration and national security, that we maintain superiority in space.


15 posted on 07/12/2005 7:40:10 PM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: KevinDavis

Yeah lets keep kicking NASA for a decision made when Nixon was President.

Shuttle is expensive and far from perfect. But she is the only girl in town right now and she still has a job to finish before she is retired.

Exploration isnt easy, it isnt riskless, and it takes the best and boldest among us to go foreward where others have not for the benefit of all. We are nation of explorers. Every one of us is here because somebody took a risk and made sacrifices. Blood and treasure. We owe future generations the same advantages we inherited.

GO DISCOVERY!


16 posted on 07/12/2005 7:40:34 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: KevinDavis

While an amazing vehicle, it has been an albatross around the entire space program's neck. NASA got stuck on gee-whiz instead of it's original mission.


17 posted on 07/12/2005 7:40:46 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Flavius

Those programs were cancelled by the Democrats in the 70s to fund more feel-good do-nothing social programs.

We would have a moon colony now if Jimmah hadn't killed the funding for it.


18 posted on 07/12/2005 7:41:01 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Calpernia

The fact is that there is no need for human beings in space that justifies the immense cost. Fully automated robotic space probes and cheap satellite launch capacity is where the money should be spent. If the Chinese want to blow their money to demonstrate that they can match where the US was in 1960 - almost 40 years ago - great. I'd rather have them doing that with the money than buying up more oil fields around the world or building more naval bases in the Indian Ocean and Persian Gulf. Get the Chinese focused on doing something pointless like putting a Chinaman on the Moon.


19 posted on 07/12/2005 7:41:25 PM PDT by taipanenigma
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To: taipanenigma

Go read "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" by Robert Heinlein and tell me that there's no need for humans in space.


20 posted on 07/12/2005 7:42:51 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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