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A Few Thoughts on Karl Rove -Provided For Those Who Are UNcErTaInn Still About Rove
NYT ^ | 7/13/05 | OP-ED

Posted on 07/12/2005 8:32:49 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

Far be it for us to denounce leaks. Newspapers have relied on countless government officials to divulge vital information that their bosses want to be kept secret. There is even value in the sanctioned leak, such as when the White House, say, lets out information that it wants known but does not want to announce.

But it is something else entirely when officials peddle disinformation for propaganda purposes or to harm a political adversary. And Karl Rove seems to have been playing that unsavory game with the C.I.A. officer Valerie Plame Wilson and her husband, Joseph Wilson IV, a career diplomat who ran afoul of President Bush's efforts to justify the invasion of Iraq. An e-mail note provided by Time magazine to the federal prosecutor investigating the case shows that Mr. Rove's aim in talking about Ms. Wilson to Matthew Cooper, a Time reporter, was to discredit Mr. Wilson, perhaps to punish him.

Mr. Wilson had published an Op-Ed article in The Times about being assigned to investigate allegations that Saddam Hussein had tried to buy uranium from Niger - a claim that was popular among the White House and Pentagon officials eager to make the case for war with Iraq. Mr. Wilson said the allegation was unsupported by evidence, and it was later withdrawn, to Mr. Bush's embarrassment.

Before that happened, Mr. Rove gave Mr. Cooper a "big warning" not to "get too far out on Wilson." Mr. Rove said the origins of Mr. Wilson's mission were "flawed and suspect" because, according to Mr. Rove, Mr. Wilson had been sent to Niger at the suggestion of his wife, who works for the Central Intelligence Agency. To understand why Mr. Rove thought that was a black mark, remember that the White House considers dissenters enemies and that the C.I.A. had...

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1 posted on 07/12/2005 8:32:50 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Terry Moran's talking points about "peddling" are showing up in the NYT.


No surprise there. [spit]


2 posted on 07/12/2005 8:34:55 PM PDT by Petronski (BRABANTIO: Thou art a villain! ---- IAGO: You are--a senator.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

If these dopes honestly believe that of ALL the people Rove could have demolished in the past 5 years he picked Wilson--and that Wilson had no idea that his wife would be brought into the story after he went to three media outlets in a couple days AND wrote a subsequent book--then they are not evil, they're just stupid.


3 posted on 07/12/2005 8:35:13 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

4 posted on 07/12/2005 8:35:44 PM PDT by Petronski (BRABANTIO: Thou art a villain! ---- IAGO: You are--a senator.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Now it's clear why the NYT let Miller go to jail...So they can print crap like this.


5 posted on 07/12/2005 8:37:12 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: Petronski

Oi, I've a decent hair dye job, these days! * LOL*


6 posted on 07/12/2005 8:37:31 PM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: Happygal

Well I'm sure as hell not referring to you. LOL


7 posted on 07/12/2005 8:38:21 PM PDT by Petronski (BRABANTIO: Thou art a villain! ---- IAGO: You are--a senator.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Desperate, aren't they?

You can almost smell the cold sweat...

8 posted on 07/12/2005 8:40:12 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

" Mr. Cooper's e-mail note does not say that Mr. Rove mentioned the name of Mr. Wilson's wife,"

Karl Rove apparently used ESP and tin foil hats to communicate the name of Valerie Plame to the media.
He's even more powerful than we thought.


9 posted on 07/12/2005 8:40:42 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Petronski

Oh well that's a relief... carry on, soldier! *LOL*


10 posted on 07/12/2005 8:41:31 PM PDT by Happygal (liberalism - a narrow tribal outlook largely founded on class prejudice)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

This makes no sense. If they want the truth to come out, have Judy Miller testify.


11 posted on 07/12/2005 8:42:35 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
To understand why Mr. Rove thought that was a black mark, remember that the White House considers dissenters enemies and that the C.I.A. had...

Just because some of the disenters are the enemy, doesn't mean that the White House thinks 'all' disenters are the enemy.

That being said, is it reality check time for the NYT or what? Is it the NYT's implication that the Clintion White House by contrast, didn't think disenters were the enemy? It's quite comical to watch the NYT's spin. They are VERY bad at it.

12 posted on 07/12/2005 8:43:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

It doesnt matter what reporter says what!
It doesnt matter what we think here!
It doesnt matter what the Dummies think!

All that matters is the truth!

ALL that matters is special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald's report!

We can on and on all we like!

When he has finished then we will see what happens!!!

Unlike the Dummies, I am happy to say now, I hope the person who Outed her goes to Jail!

Will they say that if it is a Liberal???

There is no indication that it is Rove!

Just wait and see!


13 posted on 07/12/2005 8:45:32 PM PDT by mikenash
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To: okie01
You can almost smell the cold sweat...

No kidding - this "attack" is so lame I'm almost disappointed. It sure makes Drudge look like an idiot, though. He had the siren up all over the place hollering about how the Slimes was going to come out swinging against Rove, and they deliver this limp noodle.

Serves him right, IMO, after making such of an ass of himself pimping for Michael Jackson.

14 posted on 07/12/2005 8:47:56 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: okie01
You can almost smell the cold sweat...

No kidding - this "attack" is so lame I'm almost disappointed. It sure makes Drudge look like an idiot, though. He had the siren up all over the place hollering about how the Slimes was going to come out swinging against Rove, and they deliver this limp noodle.

Serves him right, IMO, after making such of an ass of himself pimping for Michael Jackson.

15 posted on 07/12/2005 8:49:16 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: Dr.Hilarious
then they are not evil, they're just stupid.

I prefer the more politically correct (and probably more accurate)ignorant.

I'm a proud charter member of the VRWC who believes that the ignorant could be cured by just requiring that people read just one column each week by either Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell.

16 posted on 07/12/2005 8:50:21 PM PDT by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Ah, so finally the real sore is exposed, Karl Rove dissed the world renowned Joe Wilson.
17 posted on 07/12/2005 8:50:55 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him "father." - Will Rodgers


18 posted on 07/12/2005 8:52:08 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Doctors may delay your death, but only Jesus Christ can save your life.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

"This makes no sense. If they want the truth to come out, have Judy Miller testify."

It makes perfect sense if Judith Miller is the leak.

She's not protecting anyone, she's playing "journalist-in-jail" to cover her own guilt in this.


19 posted on 07/12/2005 8:52:20 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: REDWOOD99

Well, if I were here I would be darned if I would sit in jail because my PAPER didn't want me to reveal a source. It isn't Rove...we know that or she would have revealed his name like Cooper did. It's someone else. Someone BIG I bet and she has to take the hit by going to jail. When she comes out and the judge asks her again what happens if she refuses again? Does she go to jail again? She's a fool to take a hit for her paper.


20 posted on 07/12/2005 8:52:47 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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