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Classic Rove
Washington Post ^ | July 13, 2005 | Harold Meyerson

Posted on 07/13/2005 3:52:53 AM PDT by ricks_place

Now Karl Rove has become "fair game."

That was the term that the president's consigliere applied to Valerie Plame, according to Newsweek, in a conversation with MSNBC's Chris Matthews immediately after the publication of Robert D. Novak's column that identified Plame as a CIA operative. And, of course, Plame was fair game: Her identity was a tool to discredit, however obliquely, the report from her husband, Joe Wilson, that the administration's claim that Saddam Hussein's Iraq had sought to purchase uranium from Niger was a bunch of hooey....

And becoming Karl Rove's fair game means you're in for a bumpy ride. .... He's also the kind of ethically unconstrained guy Bush has wanted around when the going gets tough -- when the case Bush is making is unconvincing on its own merits, when he needs to divert attention from himself with a stunning attack on somebody else....

You can go pretty far with this kind of modus operandi, particularly if the press is complaisant. Sometimes, you can go too far, as Joe McCarthy discovered when he leveled his woozy allegations against the Army. ....

And it's not just Rove who's been caught up in the coverup. Looking like no one so much as Ron Ziegler, Nixon's press guy, in the middle of Watergate, Bush press secretary Scott McClellan was one beleaguered boychik on Monday ....

Or did he? There's no basis to conclude that if Rove was the guy who outed Plame, he told his boss about it. .... Though we can't be certain it was Rove who disclosed Plame's identity, we can be damned sure that if he did, it was all in a day's work on behalf of George W. Bush....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


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To: stinkerpot65

I watched Joe Scarborough interview Peter King about this RATmedia scam and both were totally clueless particularly Joe. He obviously doesn't know the real story and King was incapable of telling him. Neither seemed to have the slightest understanding that Valerie the Valient was NOT a secret agent, was NOT outed and the incident had NOTHING to do with endangering National Security.

It was infuriating and pitiful.


21 posted on 07/13/2005 11:02:52 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Lazamataz

The only restriction of "rights" has been restricting the ability of terrorists to operate with zero constraints. Now there are minimal constraints. Although our friends at DU are horribly upset at the fascist direction Hitler II has led the nation in.


22 posted on 07/13/2005 11:05:51 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: EricT.

Pravda style propaganda is all you will get from the RATmedia. See 21.


23 posted on 07/13/2005 11:09:54 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: balch3

I have been fighting all day in a college forum over this same topic. The left has gone loony.


24 posted on 07/13/2005 11:11:34 AM PDT by JFC ( President Bush, You are being prayed for along with our country daily, by millions of us.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
The only restriction of "rights" has been restricting the ability of terrorists to operate with zero constraints.

I, too, was alarmed at how those terrorists would influence elections by buying advertisements 60 days before an election. I'm glad Campaign Finance Reform put an end to this terrorist activity.

Furthermore, the way that terrorists were buying houses and preventing development was seriously jeopardizing tax revenues! I'm glad that the Supreme Court gave us new Eminent Domain tools to thwart these heinous terrorists.

Nope, not one right of ours has been restricted. It's all been aimed at the terrorists!!!

25 posted on 07/13/2005 11:28:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Looks like the Supreme Court wants to play Cowboys and Homeowners.)
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To: Puppage
And it was at that point that I stopped reading this article.
26 posted on 07/13/2005 11:33:55 AM PDT by chs68
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To: ravingnutter
What the heck are you raving about? Maybe you misread what I posted

I said: the report from her husband, Joe Wilson, that the administration's claim that Saddam Hussein's Iraq had sought to purchase uranium from Niger was a bunch of hooey....

Was Wilson's claim that the Bush administration lied about Hussein trying to buy uranium false or not? Everything I heard (outside of the MSM) was that Wilson is a lying sack of crap.

27 posted on 07/13/2005 11:37:17 AM PDT by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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To: EricT.
Sorry, I meant to say that Meyerson wrote: "the report from her husband, Joe Wilson, that the administration's claim that Saddam Hussein's Iraq had sought to purchase uranium from Niger was a bunch of hooey...." , not me.

I'm maintaining that Wilson is a lying sack of crap, and Meyerson is repeating something that ain't true.

28 posted on 07/13/2005 11:42:27 AM PDT by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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To: Lazamataz

CFR is one of the most ineffective laws ever passed and had zero impact on anyone that wasn't an idiot. Personally I like laws that restrict idiots and think we need more of them. That should eliminate ALL democrat ads.

As for eminent domain goes who thought the Fifth amendment of the US constitution applied to states' ability to take land. That has always been a state and local issue. And Felo is a good thing since it will spur reforms of the abuses the states and locals have gotten away with for decades. If you cannot control your local politicians there is NO chance to control national ones.

Neither of these issues has ANY relation to terrorism.


29 posted on 07/13/2005 12:28:53 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Watching someone justify and minimize the current dismantling of the Bill of Rights is always a breathtaking exercise.


30 posted on 07/13/2005 12:37:34 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Looks like the Supreme Court wants to play Cowboys and Homeowners.)
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To: Puppage
Geesh, they can't even get through the first sentence without name-calling.

con·si·glie·re Audio pronunciation of "consigliere" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kns-lyr) n. pl. con·si·glie·ri (-r)

An adviser or counselor, especially to a capo or leader of an organized crime syndicate.

Yup.

31 posted on 07/13/2005 12:43:20 PM PDT by Lizavetta (Let not your heart be troubled.......)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
a variation of "It may not be true but it could be." and "There is no evidence. That is exactly why we need to investigate this."

Don't forget the ol' "it's the seriousness of the charges that are so worrisome."

32 posted on 07/13/2005 12:45:33 PM PDT by Lizavetta (Let not your heart be troubled.......)
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To: Lizavetta

Thanks, I did forget that favorite. I guess I need to start keeping a list. They have so many nonsensical ways to accuse.


33 posted on 07/13/2005 12:58:17 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: chs68
And it was at that point that I stopped reading this article

That makes two of us!

34 posted on 07/13/2005 12:59:02 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: ricks_place

A year from now, the only thing people will remember about this is how ridiculous and petty the Democrats are. The Republicans are the big boys who fight terrorists, cut taxes, and solve problems.

The Democrats whine and pout.


35 posted on 07/13/2005 2:49:28 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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To: Lazamataz

There has been no dismantling of the BoR. Nothing even close. Laws against yelling "fire" in a crowded theater don't and neither have any recently enacted. Rhetoric and exaggerations are not particularly convincing.


36 posted on 07/14/2005 2:38:55 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
There has been no dismantling of the BoR.

We have diametrically opposing viewpoints.

37 posted on 07/14/2005 4:12:26 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Looks like the Supreme Court wants to play Cowboys and Homeowners.)
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To: Lazamataz

You are viewing things which are not there. In fact, CFR essentially affects political parties which have no political rights in the first place. It takes exactly ZERO rights from individuals as the Swift boat vets clearly demonstrated last fall.


38 posted on 07/14/2005 10:41:21 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
In fact, CFR essentially affects political parties which have no political rights in the first place.

Parties have the right to free assembly and speech.

39 posted on 07/15/2005 3:21:11 AM PDT by jmc813 ("Small-government conservative" is a redundancy, and "compassionate conservative" is an oxymoron.)
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To: jmc813

That is fine but they are also subject to the rules regarding federal elections which Congress establishs and that includes funding and spending rules. Parties were anathema to the Founding Fathers who called them factions. There was almost universal contempt for factions among the Founders until Jefferson formed his anti-Hamilton party, the democrat republicans.

Those who were foolish enough to believe the USSC would overturn CFR were mightly disappointed. Those who knew that it would not merely went around CFR as I predicted that they would. CFR affects ONLY idiots as the actions of the 527s clearly showed.


40 posted on 07/16/2005 11:13:17 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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