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Gay men should be able to donate blood, students say College group pressures Red Cross
Concord Monitor, LA Times ^ | 7/11/05 | Steve Bodzin

Posted on 07/13/2005 4:05:47 AM PDT by Dane

Gay men should be able to donate blood, students say College group pressures Red Cross

By STEVEN BODZIN Los Angeles Times July 11. 2005 8:06AM

WASHINGTON - For more than a decade, gay rights advocates have grumbled about a federal policy that forbids blood donation by men who have had sex with men.

They say that the policy, originally intended to keep HIV-positive blood from entering the nation's blood supply, implies gay men are inherently sick and that it prevents healthy people from donating.

Occasional protests and talks with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, which oversees blood banks, have brought no change.

Now, some college students have taken up the cause, and they're taking a new tack. Instead of pressuring the FDA directly, they are going after the American Red Cross - the largest and highest-profile blood collector in the country.

Unlike America's Blood Centers, which represents the non-Red Cross blood banks that collect most of the nation's blood, the Red Cross publicly supports the policy. Activists say that if they can get the Red Cross to change its stance, the FDA will follow.

While many gay rights advocates have treated the blood ban as a low priority, college groups have begun to take on the issue. They argue that, although safe blood supplies are essential, this particular policy is outdated, ineffective and homophobic.

(Excerpt) Read more at concordmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aids; bioterror; blooddonation; fda; gaydisease; health; hepatitis; homosexualagenda; perverts; redcross
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To: Dane
The inodctrinated marxists are not concerned about keeping the blood supply safe.

They want to contaminate it freely. This is really an effort to legalize bioterror. I will bet there are some who purposely attempt to poison the blood supply...

41 posted on 07/13/2005 6:01:31 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Caesar Soze

The reason the odds are so low for getting aids from the blood supply now is because queers are not allowed to donate blood, if they are allowed to do this the odds will jump considerably. If you wish to take transfusions from someone who quite possible has aids then, please, go right ahead, just don't ask the rest of us to take the same risk!


42 posted on 07/13/2005 6:03:30 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Larry Lucido

Exactly! I hope I never need blood,but if I do I would rather get it from my dog than a gay giver.


43 posted on 07/13/2005 6:05:02 AM PDT by daddyOwe ("a man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to leave alone")
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To: Dane
The FDA's expert panel voted 7 to 6 to maintain the ban.

Gee, that's comforting.

44 posted on 07/13/2005 6:06:19 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan..)
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later pingout.


45 posted on 07/13/2005 6:07:11 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Dane

Isn't there a pretty lengthy (6 months?) period of time where a person can be HIV positive but the tests will show up negative?

This is why the ban is necessary.

Also, donating blood is a privilege, not a right.


46 posted on 07/13/2005 6:08:46 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (Please check out my new & improved profile page!)
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To: Dane

If they're infected, bygod you will be too.

Typical lib MO - make everyone else as miserable as you are.


47 posted on 07/13/2005 6:12:33 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: N. Theknow

Frankly, I just don't get it. There is no reward for having your blood transfused into another person. Some blood banks pay for blood, but you can still get that money and opt out from having the blood transfused, so even the financial incentive doesn't apply.

The only reason I can see for a high-risk person wanting his blood transfused is because he wants the medical authorities to "validate" his decision to engage in high-risk activity. As long as that question is asked of blood donors, it raises the unpleasant fact that certain sexual activity involves increased risk. But that is not the fault of the question. That's just reality.

De' Nile is not just a river in Egypt.


48 posted on 07/13/2005 6:12:35 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: gridlock
I know gay men who are living with AIDS. I have known gay men who have died from AIDS. Not one of them would wish their disease on anyone else.

I know a gay man who openly stated in a sizable discussion group that he would not want to know if he had HIV!

49 posted on 07/13/2005 6:15:11 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan..)
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To: Larry Lucido
Easy solution. Set up a private blood bank. By homos for homos...and straight handwringers.
Be interesting to see how many of those, mostly liberal, gay-friendly heteros are willing to accept the blood of sodomites.
50 posted on 07/13/2005 6:16:13 AM PDT by jla
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To: Dane
Homosexual Health Hazards for the year 2004

A Psychoanalyst's Perspective: AIDS And The Death Wish (NARTH)
Gay Men Lament the Problem of Unsafe Sex in Poz (NARTH)
Rare STD turns up in San Francisco, prompting warning (Modesto Bee), FreeRepublic
Protesters back Milford teen who was rejected as blood donor (New Haven Register), FreeRepublic
AIDS rate for homosexuals climbs; data called 'astonishing' (BP News), FreeRepublic
HIV, AIDS cases rise among U.S. gay, bisexual men (Original Source Not Available)
Experts: Anti-AIDS Drugs Encourage Risky Behaviors (NARTH)
Staph infections linked to 'manscaping' (body shaving) (Southern Voice), FreeRepublic
The Many Myths of AIDS (Fumento)
Playing it unsafe (Metro Times), FreeRepublic
'Not a simple answer' for desert's syphilis problem (Blue Pages), FreeRepublic
"Crystal Meth" Use Boosts STD Rates Among Gay Men (Health Finder), FreeRepublic
"Crystal Meth" New Drug Of Choice On Gay Party Circuit (NARTH), FreeRepublic
Meth, Viagra increase STDs among gay men (MSNBC)
Gays' Use of Viagra and Methamphetamine Is Linked to Diseases (New York Times), FreeRepublic
The Beast in the Bathhouse; Crystal Meth Use by Gay Men Threatens to Reignite an Epidemic (New York Times), FreeRepublic
Rare infection may be risk to gay men in US (IOL)
2002 STD Treatment Guidelines recommendations for MSM - March 8, 2004 (CDC)
Antibiotic-resistant strain of syphilis is spreading (Original Source Not Available)
Police: Partiers Injected With Blood At Sex Parties (Local 6), FreeRepublic
The Immoral Minority (The Stranger), FreeRepublic
Homosexual Behavior a National Public Health Issue (News With Views)
Drug-proof gonorrhea rises in homosexuals (WorldNetDaily), FreeRepublic
'Gift' of potentially lethal sex is linked to rise in HIV cases (The Independent(UK))
Syphilis Relapse (Village Voice), FreeRepublic
Students Protest Blood Drive Screening (Original Source Not Available)
Internet blamed in spread of syphilis among gays (Yahooo), FreeRepublic
HIV/AIDS Statistics (NIH) (NIH)
New study: homosexual men promiscuous (BP News), FreeRepublic

51 posted on 07/13/2005 6:20:51 AM PDT by scripter (Let temporal things serve your use, but the eternal be the object of your desire.)
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To: Dane
"this particular policy is outdated, ineffective and homophobic."

I think they are correct on this one. I do, however, feel that the blood should be labeled "For Activist Gays" only.
52 posted on 07/13/2005 6:22:27 AM PDT by GunnyHartman (Allah is allah outta virgins.)
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To: scripter

Thanks scripter for posting the links.

Those links really do show how insidious and depraved the homosexual agenda is in modern day America.


53 posted on 07/13/2005 6:29:48 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: iconoclast
I know a gay man who openly stated in a sizable discussion group that he would not want to know if he had HIV!

Yes, the aformentioned Egyptian river is heard from again.

A lot of people who engage in this behavior are really screwed up individuals. That is one of the reasons the risks are so high, because so many of the people are suicidal. I don't think there will every be such a thing as "safe" promiscuous gay sex. Never was, never will be.

But I would hope that people would not go out of their way to infect anonymous people just for the pleasure of infecting them. People that sick are so rare we remember them you years. Folks still talk about the Tylenol poisoner after two decades have passed. Somebody could do the same thing tomorrow, but thankfully total jerks are few and far between.

54 posted on 07/13/2005 6:30:18 AM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Dane
I'd be curious to know if the college students would change their mind after getting an education in the health hazards of the homosexual lifestyle. I've only posted articles written in 2004 and 2005 and have articles dating back to 1992.

There's a lot more to read, but perhaps the college students are still young enough to think they already know everything.

55 posted on 07/13/2005 6:39:28 AM PDT by scripter (Let temporal things serve your use, but the eternal be the object of your desire.)
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To: Dane

Doesn't the Red Cross test all the blood for HIV anyway? If that's the case, why would it be a bad thing for homosexuals to donate blood?


56 posted on 07/13/2005 6:42:11 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: gridlock
I am quite confident the Governor used one of these three.

What makes you so confident?

57 posted on 07/13/2005 6:44:34 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: gridlock
The notion that anybody would want to knowingly donate blood for transfusion that may be tainted is such a ridiculous notion one would have to be an intellectual to believe it.

You are joking, right? People do all kinds of things to harm others in this world. To imagine that someone would knowingly donate blood when HIV infected and not tell anyone isn't a stretch at all.

If you don't think someone would do this, remind yourself of that next time you try to open a bottle of Tylenol with it's 'safety seals'.

58 posted on 07/13/2005 6:46:10 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: PzLdr
"Gay men should be allowed to donate blood- to progressive college students."

HA!!
The *perfect* solution.

...& quite *enlightened*, too. :o)

59 posted on 07/13/2005 6:46:59 AM PDT by Landru (The bravery of being out of range...)
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To: MEGoody
Doesn't the Red Cross test all the blood for HIV anyway? If that's the case, why would it be a bad thing for homosexuals to donate blood?

Yes the Red Cross does, but why take a chance and added time, when the incidence of HIV in homosexual circles is much higher and a proven fact.

60 posted on 07/13/2005 6:47:22 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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