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Root of the Rove controversy is the war in Iraq
MSNBC ^ | 7/13/05 | David Gregory

Posted on 07/13/2005 11:40:25 AM PDT by Crackingham

President Bush said Wednesday that he will reserve judgment on Karl Rove’s possible involvement in the leaking of a CIA agent's identity until the special prosecutor’s criminal investigation into the matter is complete.

"This is a serious investigation," Bush said at the end of a meeting with his Cabinet, with Rove, his deputy chief of staff, sitting just behind him. "I will be more than happy to comment on this matter once this investigation is completed,” Bush said.

While the White House seemingly stands by its man, NBC News chief White House correspondent David Gregory discusses the investigation, how the administration is expected to proceed, and how the root of the scandal is once again the controversial justifications for the war in Iraq.

Scott McClellan, the White House press secretary, came to Rove’s defense during a press briefing Tuesday by saying, “Any individual who works here at the White House has the confidence of the president. They wouldn’t be working here at the White House if they didn’t.” What is the likelihood that Bush would ever actually fire Rove, a close confidant and the architect of his re-election campaign? I think, were Karl Rove to be indicted for any crime, it would be impossible for the president to keep him on. Short of that, I don’t think that he will go anywhere. I think the president will stand behind him.

If you look, the president’s past comments were pretty clear: that anyone who is responsible for leaking classified information, which is a crime, would be fired. Until and unless that’s proven in this case, I don’t think that Karl Rove will go anywhere.

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1 posted on 07/13/2005 11:40:28 AM PDT by Crackingham
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Gregory is trying to sound like he wasn't belligerant last night with McClellan! Idiot.


2 posted on 07/13/2005 11:42:18 AM PDT by jw777
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Here I thought the root of the scandal was when the White House exposed a NOC just to play hard ball with her husband.

Disgusting. Treason.


3 posted on 07/13/2005 11:45:14 AM PDT by cracker
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To: Crackingham
Gregory just showed everyone how much of a jerk he actually is. Trying to emulate Helen Thomas or something....
4 posted on 07/13/2005 11:45:52 AM PDT by b4its2late (GITMO is way too nice of a place to house low life terrorists.)
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To: Crackingham

"President Bush said Wednesday that he will reserve judgment on Karl Rove’s possible involvement in the leaking of a CIA agent's identity until the special prosecutor’s criminal investigation into the matter is complete."

"This is a serious investigation," Bush said at the end of a meeting with his Cabinet, with Rove, his deputy chief of staff, sitting just behind him.
"I will be more than happy to comment on this matter once this investigation is completed,” Bush said.

Amazingly, President Bush's comments do not jibe with Gregory's characterization.( sarcasm off )


5 posted on 07/13/2005 11:48:27 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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Who is telling the truth?

Mr. Wilson wasn't a whistleblower but was a partisan trying to discredit the Iraq War in an election campaign. Wilson lied about who recommended him for the mission. He stated several times to the press that it was the VP when in fact it was his wife.

          All Karl Rove did was set the record straight and expose Mr. Wilson for the liar that he is.  On the "no underlying crime" point, moreover, no less than the New York Times and Washington Post now agree. So do the 36 major news organizations that filed a legal brief in March aimed at keeping Mr. Cooper and the New York Times's Judith Miller out of jail. ...

          Why is it that Miller refuses to testify to who her “unnamed” source is. In fact someone reported that whoever the source is, he or she has consented to the disclosure? On the other hand,  perhaps there is no such person? It wouldn't be the first time that a reporter with a liberal agenda made up a story. Have we forgotten Dan Rather already?

          This notion that the press can only be “free” if they can quote anonymous sources is a sham and cover for operatives who propagandize with the purpose of influencing public opinion.  What they really want is the freedom to lie.

6 posted on 07/13/2005 11:51:58 AM PDT by street_lawyer
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Gregory is showing how the liberal media is frantic to pin something on the Bush Administration. Nowhere has it been proven where Rove did anything wrong. These reporters need to get a life, and start reporting some real news, before Fox News buries them all.


7 posted on 07/13/2005 11:53:10 AM PDT by TommyDale
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Is this a "news" story or an editorial? Heck, is there even a difference between the two anymore?


8 posted on 07/13/2005 11:57:54 AM PDT by jpl
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Yeah...do these people not think we watch their press-conferences. Gregory is one of the most annoying partisan pukes around. Even today, these pests were still buzzing.


9 posted on 07/13/2005 12:03:07 PM PDT by cwb
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Since Matt Cooper is married to Mandy Gruenwald -- minion of the Queen of the FBI files, Hillary Clinton, one wonders what kind of relationship Judith Miller has with Hillary? Could the oridinal SOURCE be none other than Hillary Clinton? Perhaps that is why people are willing to go to jail to protect the source. They wouldn't be the first folks to be jailed for the Clintons..


10 posted on 07/13/2005 12:05:34 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: street_lawyer

Not only that, Miller didn't even publish a story -- so why do they want her "source"?


11 posted on 07/13/2005 12:07:31 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Crackingham
"This is a serious investigation," Bush said at the end of a meeting with his Cabinet, with Rove, his deputy chief of staff, sitting just behind him.
"I will be more than happy to comment on this matter once this investigation is completed,” Bush said.

I'm sure he's VERY eager to find out what the Feds have to say. I can't wait. This is going to be HUGE! The DUmmies will All commit mass suicide over this one! Watergate will be considered boring.

12 posted on 07/13/2005 12:12:08 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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Here I thought the root of the scandal was when the White House exposed a NOC just to play hard ball with her husband. for using her husband to play politics with a national security issue, with which she did not agree....
13 posted on 07/13/2005 12:12:12 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"Not only that, Miller didn't even publish a story -- so why do they want her "source"?"

I didn't know that. But now that you mention it, I couldn't find anything in the Times by Miller re this story going back to 2002?

Very interesting!
14 posted on 07/13/2005 12:36:58 PM PDT by street_lawyer
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To: street_lawyer

Yes. Something else is going on here. I've worked as a journalist and have been asked to reveal my sources. However, to be asked to reveal a source when I hadn't even published a story would be quite an invasion of privacy.

Newspaper reporters have stories and background information leaked to them all the time. If it is too controversial, not pertinent, or has no supporting sources -- you just don't use it! I can assure you that any reporter worth her salt has a thousand stories and supporting details stored in her head and in her notes. But if you haven't printed it, where's the crime?


15 posted on 07/13/2005 12:41:51 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: street_lawyer

You have mail


16 posted on 07/13/2005 12:43:34 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Perhaps that is why people are willing to go to jail to protect the source. They wouldn't be the first folks to be jailed for the Clintons..

the alternative is none too pretty, when dealing with the Clanton Gang, the options are limited. Ask Vince Foster.

17 posted on 07/13/2005 12:44:59 PM PDT by digger48
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Not only that, Miller didn't even publish a story -- so why do they want her "source"?

Bingo! My theory is that Miller set Cooper on the trail of the Cheney/Wilson story and Cooper, while calling Rove about another story he was doing on welfare reform, set Rove up, possibly inadvertently, but it was exactly what Miller wanted. Miller is well-known for her WMD stories.

18 posted on 07/13/2005 12:51:30 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: digger48
the alternative is none too pretty, when dealing with the Clanton Gang, the options are limited. Ask Vince Foster.

The entire Niger trip, in my opinion, was an entirely left wing set up. All the players in the whole saga were left wing. All of them. Even in Africa they were UN.
I see in my mind big charges coming down soon. What's the sentence for conspiring to interfere with national security?

19 posted on 07/13/2005 12:57:06 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: ravingnutter

Yes. That is possible. But could Cooper have gotten his information, or confirmation, from his wife? As a person who has worked closely with Hillary for so many years, Mandy Gruenwald (Cooper's wife) would have had access to those infamous FBI files. Plame has not been covert for 9 years (before 2002) That would have put her covert service smack in the middle of eh Clinton Administration -- something Gruenwald would know all about. So, where does Miller fit? Is she also a buddy of Gruenwald, or Clinton?


20 posted on 07/13/2005 12:58:30 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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