Posted on 07/13/2005 3:28:51 PM PDT by Jean S
Add this:
c. Matt Cooper is married to Mandy Grunwald, a really close friend and sycophant for Hillary Clinton.
Could it be Pinkus?
Good info, thanks.
If I understand this fisaco, the special prosecutor started down the road that linking Plame's name to Wilson's trip to Africa may (MAY) have been against 50 USC 421. As you note, if any one of those elements isn't there, then there is no violation of THAT statute.
But there would be obstruction of justice if any of the witnesses withheld or misrepresented evidence. Requiring testimony of Cooper and Miller may be required to reach a conclusion on a related charge.
The special prosecutor filed a paper with the court that said the primary investigation was concluded some time ago. But the issue of compelling the testimony of Cooper and Miller was unsettled until a recent SCOTUS ruling.
Surely, you are not contending that those 16 words weren't true?
(U) At the NIE coordination meeting.....CIA, DIA and DOE analysts all said that at the time the NIE was written, they agreed with the NIE assessment that Iraq was attempting to procure uranium from Africa. Some analysts said, in retrospect, the language should have been more qualified than it was, but they generally agreed with the text.
And they'll never let up on him, even after he leaves office in 2009. They will work to have him shipped to the Hague to stand trial for war crimes for as long as he lives.
I am appalled at the number of lies and liars in this whole charade....but w/a single goal: to destroy the President and regain their coveted power.
How limited (if at all) is the line of questioning allowed for a prosecutor in this sort of case? As in is it likely that Miller is refusing to testify not so much to protect who revealed Plume as sending Wilson to Niger, but fear of tangential questioning that could reveal that someone (oh, say maybe a Plame or Wilson?) illegally leaked other (far more serious) info in the past? We've had five years of some damaging and/or misleading leaks from CIA and the State Dept.
UNLESS testimony opened up a trail to other unauthorized leaks of national security information to the media.
Which is exactly what many suspect is the case.
For those who haven't read the text of 50 USC 421:
Section 421. Protection of identities of certain United States undercover intelligence officers, agents, informants, and sources
(a) Disclosure of information by persons having or having had
access to classified information that identifies covert agent
Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified
information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses
any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not
authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the
information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the
United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert
agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be
fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or
both.
(b) Disclosure of information by persons who learn identity of
covert agents as result of having access to classified
information
Whoever, as a result of having authorized access to classified
information, learns the identify of a covert agent and
intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert
agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified
information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies
such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative
measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship
to the United States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned
not more than five years, or both.
(c) Disclosure of information by persons in course of pattern of
activities intended to identify and expose covert agents
Whoever, in the course of a pattern of activities intended to
identify and expose covert agents and with reason to believe that
such activities would impair or impede the foreign intelligence
activities of the United States, discloses any information that
identifies an individual as a covert agent to any individual not
authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the
information disclosed so identifies such individual and that the
United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such
individual's classified intelligence relationship to the United
States, shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than
three years, or both.
(d) Imposition of consecutive sentences
A term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be
consecutive to any other sentence of imprisonment.
Not sure who I'd most prefer to see walked out in handcuffs: Joe Wilson and wife, Richard Clarke, or a handfull of reporters.
Almost any line of questioning is allowed in a grand jury proceeding.
Good. Very good.
Please accept my apology for wasting bandwidth.
Where did you get that information? If the reference is to the two sources cited by Novak, one was "in the Bush administration", the other was "in the CIA".
Novak made no reference to the White House and has subsequently denied that Rove was one of his sources ("it's not who they think it is").
Indeed. I have heard that Walter Pincus, for one, was a cocktail party circuit buddy of Wilson/Plame.
I think Novak's source was somebody in the WH, probably a low-level person. He did say that his source was not particularly partisan.
My guess is that Judith Miller spilled the beans on Plame, as "everybody knew it" -- quite common knowledge in her circles, and it spread around the WH that "Wilson's wife" worked for the CIA. They didn't know her name and, frankly, didn't care. They were outraged that she managed to get her partisan husband on this silly trip.
It may be that Wilson was the genesis of all of this. He wasn't Novak's source, but he may have strutted around Washington, telling all of his friends how he became anti-Bush flavor of the month.
That's kind of amusing...since we know a) that Niger had previously sold 100 tons of yellowcake to Iraq; b) that Iraq (Aziz?) was in Niger actively TRYING to buy more; c) that the CIA analysts which decided that it was unlikely that Iraq was seeking more was based on the theory that Iraq already had more than enough.
Hahahahaha!!!
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