Posted on 07/14/2005 9:45:50 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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Could minor Ambassador Joe Wilson himself have been the source in blowing his own Wife's cover?
It is distinctly possible, (though it may be unlikely that Joe Wilson himself directly was NY Times Judith Miller's source), since Joe Wilson himself evidently routinely bragged openly to strangers about her CIA employment, prior to such "cover" being "blown" in the press.
Here's an example of Joe's apparently routine and open bragging about Valerie being a "CIA agent," which became known directly to me over a year ago:
He certainly bragged about it per a famous and highly reliable source's (named below) account of his own face-to-face encounter with Amb. Joe Wilson prior to Valerie Plame's "outing" as a CIA agent/employee.
Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an "off the record") I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee.
Victor Davis Hanson (Wilson presumably knew Victor Davis Hanson wrote regularly for NRO (National Review Online), had done OpEds for the Wall street Journal, and other publications, and had his own Website with a widespread following) said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same "Green Room" before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful ("hot") wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative.
I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast.
However, it is now easy to surmise that Joe Wilson is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, vain, egotistical, bragaddocio-opportunist, so this account is perfectly consistent with Valerie Plame's TWO photo shoots in Vanity Fair. (Or was it Vogue? No, probably too crass for Vogue, n'est pas?)
Okay, so the question begs an answer (and I tend to believe this account).
What is the payscale for ambassadors and CIA operatives?
The retired CIA agent know (a former deep operative, came in & then worked at the agency until retirement time) lives in an ordinary Northern VA suburb. No Rolex. No Mercedes. No elite DC address or member of any social circle.
Each day I am a little more convinced this may have turned into a corruption investigation.
Perhaps it's an offshore corp? Or a phony front company?
I surf there all of the time. The water there is actually very cold.
I don't know. I have looked at as many databases as I can find. If it is incorporated somewhere, who knows.
Still if he did business in DC wouldn't he need a license?
So maybe he never got around to incorporating. And he has lied about being CEO of his own firm.
If he is conducting business in or on behalf of a foreign country in the name of a company no records can be found I would wonder about that.
Would he have to be listed as a foreign agent (or what ever the term is)? I have searched FARA files & DOJ files (any gov't agency I thought might apply.)--no mention of him or that company.
So is that wife #1 or 2? I understand that wife # 2 was in the employ of the Burundi consulate, where ever that is.
It is wife #2. somewhere else I have read that she may be a covert french agent. I think it is in Fedoras work. That might explain why there is so little on her. Someone needs to crossrefence some of these Corp. with the oil for food scandal. I think he might have been using the ex to profit from and help the french companies involved in the fraud.
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No, I think that was on the Just One Minute blog. It was suggested that wife number 2 may have provided the connections for Joe Wilson to see the forged documents that were supplied by the French through the Italians. It was mentioned as a possible explanation why Wilson stated that he had seen the documents before they were ever available. In other words it is possible that Wilson knew that the docs were forged because he was privy to the information that French wanted to discredit the British info on Saddam shopping for yellowcake and that Wilson's objective was the same. The French, by the way, manage the yellowcake production in Niger.
Thanks, I knew I had seen it somewhere. It is all starting to run together now.
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Lots of interesting things in this thread.....
BUMp for later read.
I just tend to look closer at companies that use the names ventures and enterprises in their titles to make sure they have enough experience and capital behind them.
It sounds like your business does.
I appreciate that.
Thank you!!!
Westar is a familiar name in British Columbia.
Lumber, mining, etc.
Rock Creek is a small town in B.C. with a mining and logging history. It would have no connection to Joe Wilson, but Mo Strong would know about it. I found this under top security companys in B.C.
Protection One - About Us
http://www.protectionone.com/
AboutUs_Main.asp : customers, security, stock, Protection.
Outline: Protection One is a publicly-held corporation traded on the New York Stock Exchange.
Approximately 84% of our common stock is owned by Westar Energy, a company whose assets total $8 billion including access to more than 3.3 million security and utility customers nationwide.
We are one of the largest monitored security companies in North America, serving more than one million residential and commercial customers across the continent.
Our operations encompass over 60 branch offices and multiple call centers, employing a staff of approximately 2,300 professionals.
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