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UK: Far right and football gangs plot 'revenge'
Guardian ^ | 07/15/05 | Hugh Muir

Posted on 07/14/2005 5:42:58 PM PDT by Pikamax

Far right and football gangs plot 'revenge'

Police monitor anti-Muslim websites Hugh Muir Friday July 15, 2005

Guardian Plans by an alliance of rightwing extremists and football hooligans to exact "revenge" on Muslims after last week's bomb attacks are being monitored by police.

The Guardian has learned that extremists are keen to cause widespread fear and injury with attacks on mosques and high-profile "anti-Muslim" events in the capital.

Football hooligans communicating over the internet have spoken of the need to put aside partisan support for teams and unite against Muslims. Hooligans from West Ham, Millwall, Crystal Palace and Arsenal are among those seeking to establish common cause.

As part of wider plans to generate a backlash, rightwing groups such as the Nationalist Alliance and the National Front are said to be planning marches. Extremists hope to hold a march along Victoria Embankment in London tomorrow.

It is also known that many mosques have received bomb threats since the attacks.

Attempts by the right to make capital out of the tragedy have created a powderkeg. Already extremist Islamist websites have told Muslims to be ready to retaliate.

The BNP has sought to capitalise on the atrocities by reproducing a picture of the bombed No 30 bus with the headline "Maybe Now It's Time To Listen To The BNP" in its byelection literature in Barking, Essex.

The tactic prompted cross-party condemnation. Though it was designed to increase support for the far-right, many believe the message may have been too crass and too badly timed to work. The party does, however, enjoy some support in the area.

Gerry Gable, of the anti-fascist organisation Searchlight, said: "There is no doubt that the far-right are playing this for all they think it is worth. If you look at the BNP website there's Nick Griffin saying 'be calm' and other material saying 'don't get angry, get even!'"

He added: "These things should be taken seriously. One site, Blood and Honour, had a posting about a mosque in the Wirral and soon after the mosque was hit. Soon after, the posting was taken down."

The police have pledged to crack down on any attempts to provoke division in the aftermath of the bombs. Members of Scotland Yard's independent advisory group have been asked to liaise with borough commanders in the capital to reassure the public and make sure the police carry out their pledges. The Met has said from the outset that the bombs were an attack on all communities and that none should be scapegoated.

The synergy between rightwing extremists and football hooligans is not new. Throughout the 1980s, some of the biggest clubs in Britain were plagued by notoriously violent and racist followers.

Though virtually all clubs have since challenged the behaviour of extremist fans, and almost all now belong to the Kick Racism Out of Football initiative, violent followers continue to communicate with each other and supporters from other clubs to engineer confrontations.

The prospect of the opening day Championship fixture between Leeds and Millwall in August is already causing concern.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: koranimals; londonattacked; paybackisabitch; soccer
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1 posted on 07/14/2005 5:42:59 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

I think we need to send over a battalion of our own sports drunks to help out.


2 posted on 07/14/2005 5:44:13 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Pikamax


Re: the Hooligans..

These are the LAST people you want to f*ck with.. Let me guarantee you that.


3 posted on 07/14/2005 5:44:57 PM PDT by Josh in PA
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To: Pikamax
Cry Havoc and loose the Dogs of war

(British for loot and pillage)

4 posted on 07/14/2005 5:46:56 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: righttackle44; tomkow6; MadIvan; All

Send Raider fan Bear fan Eagles fan to help Brit football fans LOL!


6 posted on 07/14/2005 5:50:45 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Pikamax
The police have pledged to crack down on any attempts to provoke division in the aftermath of the bombs.

ANGLONEWS - Dateline 865 northern England.

Authorities around England vowed to limit reprisals against Viking hordes that have invaded the Emerald Islands. "We'll be handling the threat with intelligence and peace offerings," constable Arcadia Knobles said to ANGLONEWS reporters. He implored, "Just leave the law enforcement to us, please. Don't try to take the law into your own hands. Besides, we've seeded the countryside with informers, and you'll soon be ratted out if you start plotting anything!"

The announcements came on the heels of a wave of unauthorized night and foul-weather attacks on Viking villages and transportation routes.

Citizens were staying quiet, and few were willing to express their feelings on the record. "If we speak our minds, we'll just be put in stocks and given slop for the next three weeks until the tensions blow over," an anonymous interviewee complained. "The new religious and racial tolerance laws have us hamstrung," he went on. "We can't even complain about Viking rape and theft in outlying areas. I'd better leave it at that," he concluded.

In other news it was reported that Robin Hood had stolen several Viking ships and his men had been sailing them up and down the estuaries recruiting volunteers. He couldn't be reached for comment.

7 posted on 07/14/2005 5:51:58 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: Pikamax

Would this be cruel and unusal punishment to let the soccer fan loose on the terrorist. That should scare the ( ) Out of the terrorist any way look at the fights at soccer game.


8 posted on 07/14/2005 5:52:09 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: Pikamax

Would this be cruel and unusal punishment to let the soccer fan loose on the terrorist. That should scare the ( ) Out of the terrorist any way look at the fights at soccer game.


9 posted on 07/14/2005 5:52:21 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
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To: Pikamax

Turn loose the Fans of War!


10 posted on 07/14/2005 5:54:12 PM PDT by zzen01 (so there!)
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To: Pikamax

The British elite have only themselves to blame if there's any sort of populist rightwing "backlash". For decades they've been doing everything in their power to subvert and destroy genuine English patriotism in favor of multi-ethnic atomization. They're seeing the fruits of that successful effort now, in Islamic separatism and terror on the one hand, and football hooligan type jingoism on the other. The same thing will happen here if the liberal campaign to de-Americanize the US isn't reversed.


11 posted on 07/14/2005 5:54:35 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Pikamax

Perhaps if they'd monitored pro-Muslim websites...


12 posted on 07/14/2005 5:54:47 PM PDT by AmishDude (Once you go black hat, you never go back.)
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To: Nov3

Leave the woman and children alone but make the men understand
they must clean up their back yard or leave. I have no sympathy for for followers of Islam. An attack here like 911 or the English bombing and I will be ready to take action.
Love it or leave it!!


13 posted on 07/14/2005 5:54:55 PM PDT by refermech
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To: righttackle44
Let's send a stadium full of Philadelphia Eagles fans over. If they can intimidate just about every other team in the league to stay in the tunnel until the coin flip, imagine what they'd do to a bunch of anti-American heathens that put the worship of a drunken, womanizing pedophile just one step above the game of......soccer. The carnage! Oh, the humanity........!

>;-)


14 posted on 07/14/2005 5:55:18 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: Pikamax

Finally the one group in the one country in western europe that can and will kicka*s rather than seek 'understanding and therapy' for the terroristi.


15 posted on 07/14/2005 5:56:49 PM PDT by voletti (The meaning of life, the universe and everything...)
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To: Pikamax

Let's see now, Let's check the Score.

I show 53-1.

Sounds like the Brits have some catching up to do. I wish them Luck. I say go get em!


16 posted on 07/14/2005 5:57:52 PM PDT by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: Argus

I agree... I did not see Tehran lit up as a result of the bombings. The fanatics know the "British stiff upper lip" does not include real payback. No wonder the football fans feel let down while they wait to be hit again.


17 posted on 07/14/2005 5:58:07 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Viking2002
... extremists are keen to cause widespread fear and injury with attacks on mosques and high-profile "anti-Muslim" events in the capital.

Right ON, brothers! A little civil disobedience was good for Amerika in the 1960's, and it will be good for the Brits now.

18 posted on 07/14/2005 5:58:32 PM PDT by ReadyNow
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To: Sonar5

Sir, you're too kind!


19 posted on 07/14/2005 5:58:45 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: Pikamax

May be fun to see what happens. Hot air or the real thing.


20 posted on 07/14/2005 5:59:15 PM PDT by tkathy (Tyranny breeds terrorism. Freedom breeds peace.)
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To: Pikamax

Hooliganism, it's not just for Eid anymore.


21 posted on 07/14/2005 5:59:45 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Pikamax

In his book "The Abolition Of Britain" Peter Hitchens made a dire - but I believe spot on - prediction: The British can only be pushed so far away from the long time historical norm. Inevitably, if they are pushed too far, a correction will ensue. People forget about this aspect of the British (and, for that matter, their "offspring" - namely - us). It has been a long while since the last time it happened (Cromwell). And when it does happen again, it is likely to be shocking.


22 posted on 07/14/2005 6:00:40 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Josh in PA

crack me up. ha


23 posted on 07/14/2005 6:01:00 PM PDT by newconhere
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To: righttackle44
I think we need to send over a battalion of our own sports drunks to help out.

Heh. They would just get in the way. American sports fans compare in absolutely no way to British football hooligans. The hooligans make Raiders home game regulars look like Jehovah's Witnesses...JFK

24 posted on 07/14/2005 6:01:07 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: Josh in PA

crack me up. ha


25 posted on 07/14/2005 6:02:12 PM PDT by newconhere
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To: Argus

I agree. I think we are in for a future of Cromwells.


26 posted on 07/14/2005 6:02:15 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Pikamax
Already extremist Islamist websites have told Muslims to be ready to retaliate.

Just give them small nudges lads, their outrage over the least insult will continue to mark their evil and help bring them down.

27 posted on 07/14/2005 6:03:27 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: GOP_1900AD

interesting, thanks.


28 posted on 07/14/2005 6:04:31 PM PDT by newconhere
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To: Pikamax

Without seeing the any evidence from the Guardian to support these allegations of impending violence I am not going to accept the validity of their claims. What I do find REALLY disturbing is the blanket support for such action in the postings I am reading here. Before getting behind Klan like behavior on the part of the the British version of Good Old Boys, think hard about what you are advocating.


29 posted on 07/14/2005 6:10:08 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: Pikamax

30 posted on 07/14/2005 6:11:49 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: GOP_1900AD

Gee, you mean to tell me that tying some yellow ribbons around trees, putting cute little bows on our cars and having two moments of silence is not enough to appease the widows and orphans caused by the Muslim cult? Perhaps the football fans can demonstrate to all those with "a good heart" just how this little problem can be solved.


31 posted on 07/14/2005 6:12:03 PM PDT by BTCM
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To: Pikamax
Attempts by the right to make capital out of the tragedy have created a powderkeg.

Yeah, it's the "right" that's making capital out of the tragedy. Never mind the filth that CAUSED the tragedy ...

Already extremist Islamist websites have told Muslims to be ready to retaliate.

"Retaliate" against what? The retaliation? Let me get this straight: they murder a few dozen innocent civilians, then take umbrage when pissed off citizens do the same to them?

No civilized society should have to tolerate these subhumans amongst them, any more than a healthy body should have to tolerate syphillis.

32 posted on 07/14/2005 6:13:23 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: SevenofNine

Send us Cubs fans over. We haven't won anything in so long we have a lot of frustration built up.


33 posted on 07/14/2005 6:14:39 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. - John Adams)
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To: righttackle44
battalion of our own sports drunks

Or just Ron Artest and Charles Barkley.

34 posted on 07/14/2005 6:14:57 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: refermech
An attack here like 911 or the English bombing

Where is 'here'?

35 posted on 07/14/2005 6:16:34 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Argus
The British elite have only themselves to blame if there's any sort of populist rightwing "backlash". For decades they've been doing everything in their power to subvert and destroy genuine English patriotism in favor of multi-ethnic atomization. They're seeing the fruits of that successful effort now, in Islamic separatism and terror on the one hand, and football hooligan type jingoism on the other. The same thing will happen here if the liberal campaign to de-Americanize the US isn't reversed.

Yes, when is Britain going to have the honesty to admit that the grand social experiment to create a new society by mass Moslem immigration has been a huge failure with fatal consequences? I am beginning to think that the secret objective of the leftist socialists was perpetual conflict between social groups that possess mutually exclusive goals.

36 posted on 07/14/2005 6:16:58 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: IronJack
any more than a healthy body should have to tolerate syphillis

Very good analogy.  Sounds like a tagline just waiting to be used!

37 posted on 07/14/2005 6:17:48 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Argus

Their "multi-ethnic atomization" also destroys their simple, common sense in that these Muslim murderers just walked onto the subway with a giant backpack strapped on their backs (see picture on Drudge).

Hello? Anyone home? Young, Muslim male with a big backback (looks pretty oversized like a camping or hiking one and not a school type bag) entering subway!! HELLO??


38 posted on 07/14/2005 6:18:06 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Right now I can't decide which political party is trying to commit suicide faster.)
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To: voletti

How dare you? You just ticked off the sensibilities of Chuckie Schumer, Dickless Durbin, Teddy 'hic' Kennedy and their ilk.

Way to go! ;-)


39 posted on 07/14/2005 6:19:34 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Right now I can't decide which political party is trying to commit suicide faster.)
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To: GOP_1900AD
The sooner the better.
40 posted on 07/14/2005 6:19:52 PM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: commonasdirt
What I do find REALLY disturbing is the blanket support for such action in the postings I am reading here. Before getting behind Klan like behavior on the part of the the British version of Good Old Boys, think hard about what you are advocating.

And your Stardate is 9-10-2001, right?

41 posted on 07/14/2005 6:20:15 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: SevenofNine
Send Raider fan Bear fan Eagles fan to help Brit football fans LOL!

H*ll, the Raider, Bear and Eagle fans are amateurs compared to the Brit soccer hooligans and would just get in the way and hurt themselves ;-)

42 posted on 07/14/2005 6:22:55 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: BTCM
Gee, you mean to tell me that tying some yellow ribbons around trees, putting cute little bows on our cars and having two moments of silence is not enough to appease the widows and orphans caused by the Muslim cult?

Yes, I really don't see what two minutes of silence is designed to accomplish except pacify the masses to the further relativism and destruction of their European and English heritage and culture.

43 posted on 07/14/2005 6:25:09 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: righttackle44

"Like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood'" -- Enoch Powell


44 posted on 07/14/2005 6:28:05 PM PDT by MikeGranby
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To: Stonewall Jackson
Send us Cubs fans over. We haven't won anything in so long we have a lot of frustration built up.

Patience Cubby Fan, patience. No need to be sent over because the time is near when you'll get a chance to vent your frustration in 'your own back yard'!

45 posted on 07/14/2005 6:30:20 PM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: buccaneer81

In sults aside. I take it you are saying you have no problem supporting attacks on anyone whose skin tone differs from yours?


46 posted on 07/14/2005 6:31:12 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: commonasdirt
Before getting behind Klan like behavior on the part of the the British version of Good Old Boys, think hard about what you are advocating.

Tell it to the koranimals.

47 posted on 07/14/2005 6:33:18 PM PDT by Prince Charles
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To: righttackle44

Good Hunting, Mates!


48 posted on 07/14/2005 6:33:22 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (BOHICA!)
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To: commonasdirt

Okay....I thought about it. And your point is????


49 posted on 07/14/2005 6:34:44 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (BOHICA!)
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To: righttackle44
I think we need to send over a battalion of our own sports drunks to help out.

There are plenty of Philadelphia Eagles fans that need to bone up for the coming football season. I say send 'em over.

50 posted on 07/14/2005 6:36:40 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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