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UK: Far right and football gangs plot 'revenge'
Guardian ^ | 07/15/05 | Hugh Muir

Posted on 07/14/2005 5:42:58 PM PDT by Pikamax

Far right and football gangs plot 'revenge'

Police monitor anti-Muslim websites Hugh Muir Friday July 15, 2005

Guardian Plans by an alliance of rightwing extremists and football hooligans to exact "revenge" on Muslims after last week's bomb attacks are being monitored by police.

The Guardian has learned that extremists are keen to cause widespread fear and injury with attacks on mosques and high-profile "anti-Muslim" events in the capital.

Football hooligans communicating over the internet have spoken of the need to put aside partisan support for teams and unite against Muslims. Hooligans from West Ham, Millwall, Crystal Palace and Arsenal are among those seeking to establish common cause.

As part of wider plans to generate a backlash, rightwing groups such as the Nationalist Alliance and the National Front are said to be planning marches. Extremists hope to hold a march along Victoria Embankment in London tomorrow.

It is also known that many mosques have received bomb threats since the attacks.

Attempts by the right to make capital out of the tragedy have created a powderkeg. Already extremist Islamist websites have told Muslims to be ready to retaliate.

The BNP has sought to capitalise on the atrocities by reproducing a picture of the bombed No 30 bus with the headline "Maybe Now It's Time To Listen To The BNP" in its byelection literature in Barking, Essex.

The tactic prompted cross-party condemnation. Though it was designed to increase support for the far-right, many believe the message may have been too crass and too badly timed to work. The party does, however, enjoy some support in the area.

Gerry Gable, of the anti-fascist organisation Searchlight, said: "There is no doubt that the far-right are playing this for all they think it is worth. If you look at the BNP website there's Nick Griffin saying 'be calm' and other material saying 'don't get angry, get even!'"

He added: "These things should be taken seriously. One site, Blood and Honour, had a posting about a mosque in the Wirral and soon after the mosque was hit. Soon after, the posting was taken down."

The police have pledged to crack down on any attempts to provoke division in the aftermath of the bombs. Members of Scotland Yard's independent advisory group have been asked to liaise with borough commanders in the capital to reassure the public and make sure the police carry out their pledges. The Met has said from the outset that the bombs were an attack on all communities and that none should be scapegoated.

The synergy between rightwing extremists and football hooligans is not new. Throughout the 1980s, some of the biggest clubs in Britain were plagued by notoriously violent and racist followers.

Though virtually all clubs have since challenged the behaviour of extremist fans, and almost all now belong to the Kick Racism Out of Football initiative, violent followers continue to communicate with each other and supporters from other clubs to engineer confrontations.

The prospect of the opening day Championship fixture between Leeds and Millwall in August is already causing concern.


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KEYWORDS: koranimals; londonattacked; paybackisabitch; soccer
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To: mysonsfuture

If you go and attack and kill someone without proof that they did anything you will not be lauded as a hero and set free. You will simply be just another nutcase in a jail cell.


181 posted on 07/15/2005 1:10:14 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: commonasdirt; All
So after we get rid of them (muslims), whose next on the list?
Slippery slope.
The Rev Fred Phelps thinks God and the bible have given him all the answers on who deserves to die.
Red herring.

Can you spot the logical fallacies in commonasdirt's next post?

182 posted on 07/15/2005 1:10:21 AM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
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To: commonasdirt

So what's your solution to Muslim terrorism?


183 posted on 07/15/2005 1:11:20 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: commonasdirt

Are you on drugs? Who and the hell said anything about killing innocent people. NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


184 posted on 07/15/2005 1:11:45 AM PDT by mysonsfuture
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To: jayhorn

Nighty-night....have fun telling each other how brave you are. And if you skulk out at night to find a target I am certain you will find one you outweigh and outnumber


185 posted on 07/15/2005 1:13:01 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: commonasdirt
Nighty-night....have fun telling each other how brave you are. And if you skulk out at night to find a target I am certain you will find one you outweigh and outnumber
Straw man.
186 posted on 07/15/2005 1:14:46 AM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
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To: commonasdirt

Run right over to DU to cut and paste the most damning comments you can find Dude. We are used to it.

I fail to see how it is racist to recognize that a group of people either want us all dead, want us all under their boot or are silent in the stated wishes of the most vocal adherents to enslaving us if not killing us.

It is a pity that we are hamstrung by political correctness, the silence of Muslim leaders and our own decency. But there will come a day I fear that innocent or guilt, it will get ugly. The Muslims better start speaking up and policing their own.


187 posted on 07/15/2005 1:15:48 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: commonasdirt
So after we get rid of them (muslims), whose next on the list? The Rev Fred Phelps thinks God and the bible have given him all the answers on who deserves to die.

When you argue with the Rev Fred Phelps, you'll have something to say. Until you do, you're mearly trying to smear people who wouldn't have given a fig about having Mohammeden neighbors five years ago.

So after we get rid of them (muslims), whose next on the list?

Hmmm. Pretty tricky question...except there's only one name on the list.

188 posted on 07/15/2005 1:17:02 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: commonasdirt
Hey, alright, kill whomever you like. And then tell it to a judge and jury. Face facts. You may be angry, you may be venting. But you are not about to do it.

How does this statement, in any way, address what I've said to you?

189 posted on 07/15/2005 1:20:24 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: Zack Nguyen

This is great! I read the initial post and got goose bumps! It is time to kick some serious muslim ass!


190 posted on 07/15/2005 1:20:55 AM PDT by MetcalfHarris
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To: commonasdirt
"Run away, run away!"
191 posted on 07/15/2005 1:22:25 AM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: commonasdirt
If you go and attack and kill someone without proof that they did anything you will not be lauded as a hero and set free. You will simply be just another nutcase in a jail cell.

A jury may differ...they certainly did in the assasination of Kahane.

192 posted on 07/15/2005 1:27:39 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: commonasdirt
Nighty-night....have fun telling each other how brave you are. And if you skulk out at night to find a target I am certain you will find one you outweigh and outnumber

Good Lord but you're intellectually contemptible. You jump into discussions, and when your vapid premises are rejected you run away squalling curses on your opposition.

Have you ever had an adult relationship?

193 posted on 07/15/2005 1:35:51 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: k2blader

GMTA


194 posted on 07/15/2005 1:39:12 AM PDT by papertyger (Power concedes nothing without a demand. – Frederick Douglass)
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To: papertyger
Hello, I've been a lurker on Freep for a long time.. a few thoughts of mine about this issue.

I think mob violence from certain elements will only lead to pitched battles being fought on the street. Will cause a lot of bloodshed on both sides (last time I heard, muslim gangs were waiting for an oppurtunity to be provoked).

A more effective way is to let it simmer down for a while, but gradually enforce stricter laws to tame these south Asian/middle eastern extremists.

195 posted on 07/15/2005 1:46:51 AM PDT by Analog Artist (Life w/o books, booze and babes is not worth living)
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To: Pikamax

Millwall fans are some of the most dangerous, violent thugs in the country. Normally I don't approve of such actions; however the Muslim community's response has been extremely poor, and until such time as they correct it, this is what they can expect.

Regards, Ivan


196 posted on 07/15/2005 1:48:23 AM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: Billthedrill

Frankly the Brits are way too PC to really do much..The insane liberal masses won't let any rEAL meaningful action take place..Just like the US now..We do nothing that common sense would dictate.Deprotation, cultural profiling and closing the boarders is the fisrt thing any knucklehead would do after 9/11 ..We;ve done none of this and the Brits wont either..We will all reap the benifits of this inaction again.


197 posted on 07/15/2005 1:56:31 AM PDT by hineybona
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To: MadIvan; RippinGood; Analog Artist; pau1f0rd

Who was it that Man U played in the FA Cup competition this last season? It was some sort of darby match that hadn't been played in a while with a Champions League team. I read that Man U fans had to be bused in and there was some unpleasantness in the crowd after the match.


198 posted on 07/15/2005 1:59:27 AM PDT by jayhorn (when i hit the drum, you shake the booty.)
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To: commonasdirt

I was encouraged by the posts. It is time for the Brits to act and send the muslims packing. To avoid confrontation will guarantee that the UK becomes a muslim country in less than 100 yrs.


199 posted on 07/15/2005 2:00:42 AM PDT by 1955Ford
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To: jayhorn

Man U fans are nothing like Millwall fans, trust me. It's like comparing orcs to Nazgul.

Regards, Ivan


200 posted on 07/15/2005 2:03:02 AM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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