Posted on 07/14/2005 6:27:13 PM PDT by wagglebee
How is having twenty kids in our modern world being 'responsible'?
Q. What do you call a woman who practices the rhythm method.
A. Mother.
Abstinence does not generally make for a happy marriage ;)
Perhaps someone can figure out a way to make this thread about Terri Schiavo.
:)
I wouldn't think so.
Oh - undoubtedly. :~\
The only side effect is getting dumped after the 2nd date.
Thank you for the ping, wagglebee! I love this topic! One I've experienced from several sides. I was the once user of bc pills. It almost ruined my marriage! I did not enjoy sex. One of those nasty little side effects of unnatural hormones/chemicals in your body. I was a piece of meat to be had whenever he felt like it. My feelings were not considered. It never occurred to him that I wasn't enjoying it and I didn't want to bring it up often because I didn't want him to feel bad!
After a meeting I attended at church one evening, and learning about the pill possibly terminating babies by not letting them attach, I quit taking the pill. Of course, before I was aware of NFP I became pregnant! Came at a scary time but we figured out pretty quickly that God can see into our hearts what we cannot. Our first child is amazing! After NFP classes our marriage came back together 100+%. It was a complete turnaround. The mutual respect and better understanding of each other was very intense. Of course, so was abstaining for a week at a time!
Abstinence is an interesting thing in a marriage. You are forced to talk to each other. REALLY communicate. It was hard at first. However, it also brought back into our marriage that sense of excitement we had when we first met! Needless to say, our second child, planned, came exactly 2 years later.
My husband has a much better understanding of the chances I was taking with my health when I took the pill. He loves me too much to ever want me back on it again. He wants me to enjoy him and he wants me to be healthy. He is happier and approves of our new 'birth control' method.
Using NFP does not mean having 20 kids. We are expecting our 3rd but even though it came as a little shock (happened sooner than expected) she was also planned. No unplanned pregnancies here! We're hoping for a 4th in a couple years.
Please, if you are one of those on here tonight thinking that I'm one of those that wants regulations put on this you are wrong. I don't think bc should be outlawed. I just want everyone to see that there are other, healthier options. You don't have to put your teenage daughter on bc. Even single women or teenagers can learn from NFP. What a wonderful thing to take into a new relationship! Sex would certainly have to be talked about, consequences, etc. There are many positive aspects to NFP. I wish every couple would take the NFP courses and give it a try. Give it a try before passing judgement on it! It is safe, effective and respectful of a woman's body and soul!
I totally agree! I can't believe some people actually think that to teach children abstinence is unreasonable "cuz they're gonna do it anyway!" That's a pathetic argument!
My parents made sure I knew that if I got pregnant (and yes there were guys who tried to "bonk" me!), I was on my own and could not expect any help from them at all. Hitting me between the eyes with reality is what gave me the courage to tell those "bonker" boys NO! Any moron can have sex. It takes someone with brains to tell them to go "F" themselves! I waited for someone special.
"Abstinence does not generally make for a happy marriage ;)"
Please see post #48. I beg to differ!!!
I took the pill for a few months while I was in my 20's and early in my marriage, but I could literally feel the circulation problems in my legs. I got off of it right away, and never went back to it.
I do not think that taking a week off is generally what people have in mind when you say "abstinence". Either that, or your two children would seem to refute the efficacy of abstinence as a birth control method ;)
NFP helps a woman figure out when she is fertile. If a couple is not trying to add children to their family at that time, then abstaining from sex for those fertile days is all you have to do. No kids. No drugs. It was hard for us the first couple of months but is not a big deal at all now (we've been at this for 7 years now).
When we decided we wanted more children, we quit worrying about whether or not I was fertile. The surprise with our upcoming child is that she happened instantly! We thought we might get a few months of 'extra playtime' before the pregnancy hit. That's all! :-)
That's the method we used for up until the time I had our third last and final child. Went on the pill until hubby could get a vasectomy. Did not want an "oops".
"We think the death rate here is of concern, but it's not different than what we expect." Anything to keep the sexualkampf rolling. Yes, Virginia, women have died by the hundreds of thousands since 1968 for that revolution...
Not to mention the 35 million abortions since 1972.
That's a GREAT NATION -- exterminated.
It's not a sexual revolution, but a cultural WAR with real casualties to fill mass graves...
I don't think I'd put it that way. But women's bodies are evolved or designed (take your pick) to start having children at about 16 or 18, maybe earlier. Whether the delay is caused by artificial methods, or by abstinence due to late marriage, it's not "natural" and would be expected to cause some problems.
There's a name for women who practice that method.
Mother.
Google up just how many people a year die while taking aspirin every year. It might shock you.
Screw taking a pill every day or wearing a patch. Send your hubby to the clinic for a little "snip-snip" and then hadn him a bag of frozen peas. It's the least they could do. LOL
Lawsuits??? The TV ads have specifically said clots are possible, heart attack, stroke, etc with even further increased risk for smokers warned as well. Look, these women were INFORMED of the risks and side effects to WATCH OUT FOR. You need to be monitored by a doctor. These aren't things to be trifled with. Of course these young women want to spread their legs for any passing fancy and not have to even remember a once-daily pill. This is definitely a *cost* of "feminism" and they just have to grin and bare this responsibility they've yammered about and demanded so they can control the men in their lives... oops, I meant so they can control their own bodies. Riiight.
Any woman (or man) who had such blinding headaches for days, soon after starting use of this patch and didn't seek medical attention is a fool. And a dead one because of it.
My sympathy is not particularly high in the Ortho Evra case.
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