WTF?
Posted on 07/14/2005 6:27:13 PM PDT by wagglebee
Gingerly, Kathleen Thoren's family gathered around her in the intensive care unit, unable to speak to their beloved sister, daughter, wife, or even stroke her hands. The slightest stimulation might create a fatal amount of pressure on the 25-year-old woman's swollen brain, warned the doctors.
"We were horrified, but we tried to just quietly be with her," said her sister Erika Klein. "In the end, it didn't help."
The mother of three died last fall, just after Thanksgiving, after days of agonizing headaches that the coroner's report said were brought on by hormones released into her system by Ortho Evra, a birth control patch she had started using a few weeks earlier.
She was among about a dozen women, most in their late teens and early 20s, who died last year from blood clots believed to be related to the birth control patch. Dozens more survived strokes and other clot-related problems, according to federal drug safety reports obtained by The Associated Press under a Freedom of Information Act request.
Several lawsuits have already been filed by families of women who died or suffered blood clots while using the patch, and lawyers said more are planned.
Though the Food and Drug Administration and patch-maker Ortho McNeil saw warning signs of possible problems with the patch well before it reached the market, both maintain that the patch is as safe as the pill.
However, the reports obtained by the AP appear to indicate that in 2004 -- when 800,000 women were on the patch -- the risk of dying or suffering a survivable blood clot while using the device was about three times higher than while using birth control pills.
The women who died were young and apparently at low risk for clots -- women like Zakiya Kennedy, an 18-year-old Manhattan fashion student who collapsed and died in a New York subway station last April. Or Sasha Webber, a 25-year-old mother of two from Baychester, N.Y., who died of a heart attack after six weeks on the patch last March.
Some doctors, reviewing the Food and Drug Administration reports at the request of The AP, were alarmed. "I was shocked," said Dr. Alan DeCherney, editor-in-chief of Fertility and Sterility and a UCLA professor of obstetrics and gynecology.
But other doctors said they would have expected some deaths and no investigation is warranted. They point to more than 4 million women who have safely used the patch and note that the FDA reports are called in voluntarily, rather than gathered scientifically.
"It doesn't jump out at me to say, 'Let's look at this any further,"' agreed Dr. Steven J. Sondheimer, professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Pennsylvania. "I don't feel that these need to be looked at in any detail."
Ortho McNeil, a subsidiary of Johnson & Johnson, says none of the deaths can be directly attributed to the patch.
"Although we are investigating each and every one of the reports that we get, we have not drawn any causal relationships to the medication," said Dr. Katherine LaGuardia, Ortho McNeil's director of women's health care.
Not one? "Right," she said. "It's difficult to reach a definitive answer, and privacy laws prevent us from investigating as thoroughly as we wish."
Blood clots are an accepted risk from hormonal birth control because estrogen promotes blood coagulation.
But how many clots are too many?
The AP found that before the patch was approved, the FDA had already noticed nonfatal blood clots from the patch were three times that of the pill. The AP then examined what has actually happened since the patch came on the market and found that deaths also appear to be at least three times as high.
If you are a woman taking the pill who doesn't smoke and is under 35, the chance that you are going to have a blood clot that doesn't kill you is between 1 and 3 in 10,000. Your risk of dying from a blood clot while using the pill is about 1 in 200,000.
By contrast, with the patch, the rate of nonfatal blood clots was about 12 out of 10,000 users during the clinical trials, while the rate of deaths appears to be 3 out of 200,000.
Clots usually form in the legs, and become serious problems if they travel to a woman's heart, lungs or brain.
In 2000, doctors at the FDA reviewing clinical trials of the wafer-thin, plastic patch warned that blood clots could be a problem if it was approved.
In those trials, two of the 3,300 women using the patch were treated for blood clots that traveled to their lungs. Ortho McNeil says one of those women shouldn't be counted because she had undergone surgery. But an FDA reviewer, using capital letters and underscoring his comments, took issue with Ortho McNeil.
"THE REVIEWER DOES NOT AGREE WITH THE SPONSOR'S ABOVE CONCLUSIONS. The two cases of pulmonary embolus, a serious and potentially fatal condition, must be counted as two cases ...," said the report. "The incidence rates quoted by the sponsor may be misleading."
The reviewer said "the label should clearly reflect this reviewer's safety concern about a potential increased risk." It would be important to study users after the patch came on the market for clot problems, he wrote.
But when the patch was approved in the U.S. in 2001, there were no requirements for follow-up studies beyond routine FDA reviews of reports called in by consumers, doctors and manufacturers.
The label's safety warning says two different and seemingly contradictory things: First, it says the patch is expected to be associated with similar risks as the pill. Then, it says it is unknown if the risk of blood clots from the patch is different from the pill.
The AP reviewed what has happened since the patch came on the market in 2002.
The FDA responded to a FOIA request by providing the AP with a database that contained about 16,000 different reports of adverse reactions associated with the patch.
These ranged from mild rashes to deaths, and there were many duplicate reports. Within this collection of reports, the AP found 23 different deaths associated with the patch. The primary cause of death in those reports isn't always clear -- some mention suicide, others abortion. Doctors who reviewed the 23 cases found about 17 that appeared to be clot-related, including 12 from last year.
"That number of deaths certainly sounds suspicious," said Dr. Pamela Berens, associate professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Texas Medical School at Houston. "There may be something about the way the drug is metabolized that could increase the risk for clots."
Although the estrogen levels are similar in the patch and the pill, the hormones in a pill must be processed through the intestinal tract before they enter the blood stream. Hormones in the patch, on the other hand, go directly into the bloodstream.
Dr. Sidney Wolfe, director of Public Citizen's Health Research Group, a consumer advocacy organization founded by Ralph Nader, said that the deaths and high rate of clotsare "worrisome" and should be investigated.
"These days, more often than not the problems with a drug show up after they're approved," he said.
But Dr. Daniel Shames, the FDA's director of the Division of Reproductive and Urological Drug Products, who approved the agency's medical review, said he has reviewed cases of women who died using the patch and saw no cause for alarm.
"We think the death rate here is of concern, but it's not different than what we expect," he said. "As of right now we still believe there's nothing that would precipitate our doing anything additional to follow up on these reports."
And other doctors who prescribe the patch warned that women should not overreact to news of deaths. It is more risky to remove the patch and become pregnant, several pointed out.
Dr. Philip Darney, a professor of obstetrics and gynecology atthe University of California, San Francisco, and a leading contraceptive researcher, cautioned that the FDA's adverse event reports tend to be inflated for newer products like the patch.
Ping.
FYI Ping
What do you suggest?
Responsibility
Odds of 3 in 200,000. I might take the risk, or not. Leave the choice up to me.
How about the body basal method, wherein you track your basal temperature for several months to find out what day of your cycle you ovulate? Then it's just a matter of putting off intercourse during that window of fertility, which is about 4-5 days. Or has everyone become too addicted to convenience and immediate gratification to even consider this completely natural and harmless option?
How about Natural Family Planning??? When wet you are fertile - when dry you are not fertile.
Yes. Sex is good for you on many levels, not least of which is the intimacy created between you and the one you love. Surely something so beautiful cannot be bad? What is wrong with being happy 30 days out of 30 if one can? I can't see anything wrong with taking responsible measures to avoid pregnancy. However, if I was a young woman, I would take the pill vs. the patch based upon this data so far.
My point was that there are other options. You don't have to ingest hormones to remain unpregnant.
And the pill isn't necessarily safe either. It's well known that it suppresses one's libido while taking it. IT's not so well known that for some women that side effect becomes permanent even after you've stopped taking it.
What are the odds of dying in childbirth or pregnancy?
Are they less than the patch?
I doubt the arguement is against chemicals; it's against artificial birth control in general.
Oh, I thought you were advocating no birth control. If I started a pill that diminished my libido, I would certainly stop taking it. There are other methods that work about as well. According to my daughter's doctor, there is some protection against ovarian cancer in taking the pill as a young woman.
Artificial birth control is generally harmful.
There is also an increased risk of breast cancer, especially if the woman is a smoker.
** Could we please put about 10 million of these patches all along the Mexican border so that the Bush's guests can pick them for free, courtesy of the US taxpayer of course, and use them.
Thank You President Bush. Some of you who may have missed the earlier expose' of Bush's ordered cover up of the spike in border crossings when legislation was discussed about an amnesty for all illegals in the U.S. --- 25% increase which the Border Patrol was ordered by the adminstration TO NOT DISCLOSE ANY DETAILS TO THE MEDIA OR PUBLIC!!! Tancredo blew the whistle, along with Judicial Watch's great assistance. See Bill O. tonight for a repeat of the interview AND HARD EVIDENCE THAT TANCREDO COLLECTED!!!! This is unbelievably damning (deliberate cover-up) and exposes Bush's pro-illegal-Mexican agenda!!!
Just watch Bill O. tonight!! Made me want to puke.
It will be a sad day when the gov't & Bolshevik feminists dictates how often married men can bonk.
So gentlemen, the question is this. Are you going to stand firm against radical feminism and big-brother gov't, and their demands that we curb our bonking instinct? Or are you yourself going to be the one to determine the tempo of your bonking life?
I'll wait and read about it, because I absolutely cannot stand Bill O'Reilly!
This was an excellent segment and I would recommend staying up late to watch it or get the TIVO or whatever up and running.
In the case of unmarried women....abstinence! I tried it and it worked beautifully with no side effects!
WTF?
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