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SEN. INTEL. CHAIR: JOE WILSON A FRAUD
NewsMax ^ | 7/15/05

Posted on 07/15/2005 8:35:51 AM PDT by areafiftyone

Thanks to the media's obsession with the Karl Rove pseudo-scandal, former Iraq ambassador Joseph Wilson is once again the toast of Washington, D.C. - appearing on dozens of TV and radio programs, airing his demand that President Bush "honor his word" to fire Rove.

It's almost as if last year's Senate Intelligence Committee investigation into Wilson's allegations never happened.

In fact, after probing Wilson's story, Intelligence Committee Chairman Pat Roberts publicly ripped the so-called "whistleblower" as a possible hoaxer and a fraud. In a July 9, 2004 press release that's still available on Roberts' official web site, the Kansas Republican said:

"The former Ambassador, either by design or through ignorance, gave the American people and, for that matter, the world a version of events that was inaccurate, unsubstantiated, and misleading . . .

"Time and again, Joe Wilson told anyone who would listen that the President had lied to the American people, that the Vice President had lied, and that he had 'debunked' the claim that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa. As discussed in the Niger section of the [Committee's] report, not only did he NOT 'debunk' the claim, he actually gave some intelligence analysts even more reason to believe that it may be true."

Sen. Roberts continued:

"When asked how [Wilson] 'knew' that the Intelligence Community had rejected the possibility of a Niger-Iraq uranium deal, as he wrote in his book, he told Committee staff that his assertion may have involved 'a little literary flair.'"

The Intel Committee chair concluded:

"I believed very strongly that it was important for the Committee to conclude publicly that many of the statements made by Ambassador Wilson were not only incorrect, but had no basis in fact."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 109th; cialeak; fraud; joewilson; patroberts; wilson

1 posted on 07/15/2005 8:35:52 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

save


2 posted on 07/15/2005 8:39:05 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: areafiftyone
I love Pat Roberts.

Joe Wilson should be stoned in the town square, as should Richard Clark. Both put their personal agendas before my country's security. And still, the media touts them as heroes.

Heck, let's stone the media in the square, too.

3 posted on 07/15/2005 8:40:17 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: teenyelliott


As Gen. Tommy Franks wrote in his book "Dick Clarke" never gave him one piece of actionable intellgence...

Stone'em, hang'em, burn'em, drop them out of the payload bays of a B-2 at 50K feet over N.K. only way to treat traitors.


4 posted on 07/15/2005 8:43:01 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Soylent Green is People!")
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To: teenyelliott

What I had in mind was sodomizing him with a chainsaw


5 posted on 07/15/2005 8:43:13 AM PDT by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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To: teenyelliott

Joe Wilson is evidence that the power that the MSM wields is still massive.


6 posted on 07/15/2005 8:44:28 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: areafiftyone
To read the original Press Release click here.
7 posted on 07/15/2005 8:46:18 AM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: teenyelliott
Don't forget the Clintons and their entire administration.
8 posted on 07/15/2005 8:47:58 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: Spiff

Thank you for the link!


9 posted on 07/15/2005 8:47:58 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone
How long will it be before FOX hires him as an ANAList to join Wesley Clarke (the provider of the tanks to Reno at Waco!)?
10 posted on 07/15/2005 8:48:00 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: randog

What is evidence is the mass media and democrats no longer yield the "power" and as soon as the Republicans understand this, the better off this country will be.


11 posted on 07/15/2005 8:48:02 AM PDT by Two-Bits (Democrat Politicians will get us ALL killed including their asinine selves.)
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To: teenyelliott
Heck, let's stone the media in the square, too.

HEH HEH! ((((evil laugh)))

12 posted on 07/15/2005 8:48:52 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone

"Joseph Wilson is once again the toast of Washington, D.C."

And soon to be just toast.


13 posted on 07/15/2005 8:50:43 AM PDT by NathanBookman
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To: NathanBookman
And soon to be just toast.

No Joseph, that is not a really a crown, it is just the Imperial Butter you tried to grease the skids with that has landed on your toasted carcass.

14 posted on 07/15/2005 9:05:22 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: areafiftyone

Does anyone know where I can find this specific report by the Senate Intelligence Committee?

Thanks in advance.


15 posted on 07/15/2005 9:05:35 AM PDT by fuzzy122 (GBGB [God Bless George Bush] and Our Armed Forces!)
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To: teenyelliott

Heck, let's stone the media in the square, too.

Instead of stones, how about using baseball bats on them the way it was done to Joe Pesci and his brother in "Casino".


16 posted on 07/15/2005 9:08:14 AM PDT by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of the naive, selfish & immature)
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To: fuzzy122; All
Here you go. It's in PDF Format Senate Intelligence Report
17 posted on 07/15/2005 9:10:59 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: in hoc signo vinces; Armigerous
Have to say I agree, but I was trying to be a little more subtle, so as to avoid the bannie. You know, no calls for violence, yada, yada, yada.

It is absolutely amazing to me that these filthy sleaze bags get away with the things they say.

And what makes me even more angry is that the powers that be in the Republican party (excuse me, Mr. Frist? Would you mind doing your blankety blank job??), aren't screaming the facts from the rooftops. They just sit back and whisper, hoping that the American public is smart enough to figure out the truth.

Well, guess what. They aren't. The sheeple will swallow anything the media tells them as gospel. So until the Republicans abuse the media to their own advantage, we have to do the screaming for them. And we don't even get to vacation in The Vineyard. Buttwipes.

18 posted on 07/15/2005 9:11:36 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: bmwcyle
Here's hoping that karma really is a bitch.

Cause if it is, those people are soon gonna have bad stuff happening all around them.

Taken a look at old Billy boy lately? Looks like the karma train has already run over him.

19 posted on 07/15/2005 9:13:59 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: randog
The only thing that can stop the media is us. I am hoping that the ranks of people who demand the truth are growing, and someday we will turn the tide. That is all we can do.
20 posted on 07/15/2005 9:16:16 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: areafiftyone
Let's consider sites like Free Republic the proverbial stoning.

We must throw harder, and do more damage.

21 posted on 07/15/2005 9:18:02 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: areafiftyone

This is all well and good, But if Wilson is still pushing his lies, the Chairman should call him back before the committee and force him to testify, again.


22 posted on 07/15/2005 9:21:04 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you dont have to...." ;)
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To: DarthVader

Hay! I have an idea! Since the stupid lefties (Hullo, Mr. Gere!), love the mooselimbs so much, let's just send some jihadists to befriend the media, and they will take care of them!


23 posted on 07/15/2005 9:21:08 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: randog
Yes, the sword that MSM wields is indeed massive, but not for long, I hope. That is the whole purpose of this jihad against Karl Rove, to force the Whitehouse to shut down the investigation into the Plame affair.

The NYT, the WA PO and thirty some other major newspaper filed papers with the court, asking that the investigation be shut down because it was apparent that no law was broken. When their request was turned down, the NYT issued a fatwah against Karl Rove, with purely unsubstantiated accusations that the NYT knows are false. Why, you may ask would a major news paper print obviously false information? The answer is that they are fighting for their lives. They have a major scandal on their hands that will bring down the NYT to the level of the National Enquirer.

Just as the paper was getting over the Jayson Blair embarrassment, another of their reporters became embroiled in a scandal involving a leak from the CIA and a tip to a terrorist supporting Muslim organization that allowed them to flee and shred all documents, hours before a raid by the HSA. Now, it turns out that this same reporter has been talking to a target of the investigation in another issue, involving leaks from the CIA, the Valerie Plame case.

The prosecutor has stated that he is interested in talking to Miller (Cooper as well) about conversations that she had with the source on subjects other than Plame's identity. So, if Miller talked to the Grand Jury, she might be potentially forced to claim self incrimination for obstruction of justice. It is no coincidence that the same prosecutor was appointed to investigate both cases.
24 posted on 07/15/2005 9:28:22 AM PDT by Eva
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To: areafiftyone

GO! PAT! GO!


25 posted on 07/15/2005 9:30:18 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: areafiftyone

Thank you very much.

God bless.


26 posted on 07/15/2005 10:44:36 AM PDT by fuzzy122 (GBGB [God Bless George Bush] and Our Armed Forces!)
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To: OnTheDress

bump


27 posted on 07/15/2005 10:45:54 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: fuzzy122
You are quite welcome. It's huge over 500 pages! Crazy
28 posted on 07/15/2005 10:46:22 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: OnTheDress

Is Pat Roberts scheduled for the Sunday morning talk show circuit?


29 posted on 07/15/2005 10:47:05 AM PDT by princess leah (\)
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To: Eva

Interesting. This answers the "What is Judith Miller hiding" question. Do you have links to this story--I'm interested in reading more.


30 posted on 07/15/2005 10:54:03 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: teenyelliott
Have to say I agree, but I was trying to be a little more subtle, so as to avoid the bannie. You know, no calls for violence, yada, yada, yada.

You are free to call for violence by stoning or a shot through the head with a 44 Bulldog ONLY if you are a liberal democrat, AND you are calling for violence against a Republican.

Any calls for "violence" against democrats is a crime, especially if you say something so extreme as "...so and so should be tried for treason and hung by the neck until dead...". The mere fact you are calling for a legal remedy does not protect you when you make such statements about a democrat.

31 posted on 07/15/2005 10:59:41 AM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: areafiftyone

I'd love to have a copy of Roberts' remarks on the floor of the Senate yesterday.

Holy crap, he burned him a new one! He said that there was no need for anybody to try to ruin Wilson's credibility because Wilson had already done that himself.


32 posted on 07/15/2005 11:07:16 AM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: randog

Which story, the security leak about the HSA raid on the Muslim support organization, that has ties to the Rock Creek Investments that Wilson worked for?


33 posted on 07/15/2005 11:09:45 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Auntie Dem
Shoot, I was only referring to the FR rules.

If I were out in the worldy-world, there'd have to be an investigation launched if I just sneezed on a demonrat!

34 posted on 07/15/2005 11:44:57 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: areafiftyone

June Of 2003, Wilson Told The Washington Post “The Niger Intelligence Was Based On Documents That Had Clearly Been Forged Because ‘The Dates Were Wrong And The Names Were Wrong.’” (Susan Schmidt, “Plame’s Input Is Cited On Niger Mission,” The Washington Post, 7/10/04)

However, “The [Senate Select Committee On Intelligence] Report … Said Wilson Provided Misleading Information To The Washington Post Last June [12th, 2003].” (Susan Schmidt, “Plame’s Input Is Cited On Niger Mission,” The Washington Post, 7/10/04)

Senate Select Committee On Intelligence Unanimous Report: “The Former Ambassador Said That He May Have ‘Misspoken’ To The Reporter When He Said He Concluded The Documents Were ‘Forged.’” (Senate Select Committee On Intelligence, “Report On The U.S. Intelligence Community’s Prewar Assessments On Iraq,” 7/7/04)


35 posted on 07/15/2005 12:53:03 PM PDT by Peach
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To: All

Other "inaccuracies" (read lies) of Joe Wilson can be found here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1442746/posts


36 posted on 07/15/2005 12:53:40 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Eva
This story:

Just as the paper was getting over the Jayson Blair embarrassment, another of their reporters became embroiled in a scandal involving a leak from the CIA and a tip to a terrorist supporting Muslim organization that allowed them to flee and shred all documents, hours before a raid by the HSA. Now, it turns out that this same reporter has been talking to a target of the investigation in another issue, involving leaks from the CIA, the Valerie Plame case.

37 posted on 07/15/2005 7:34:05 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: areafiftyone

Could minor Ambassador Joe Wilson himself have been the source in blowing his own Wife's cover?

It is distinctly possible, (though it may be unlikely that Joe Wilson himself directly was NY Times Judith Miller's source), since Joe Wilson himself evidently routinely bragged openly to strangers about her CIA employment, prior to such "cover" being "blown" in the press.

Here's an example of Joe's apparently routine and open bragging about Valerie being a "CIA agent," which became known directly to me over a year ago:

He certainly bragged about it per a famous and highly reliable source's (named below) account of his own face-to-face encounter with Amb. Joe Wilson prior to Valerie Plame's "outing" as a CIA agent/employee.

Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an "off the record") I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee.

Victor Davis Hanson (Wilson presumably knew Victor Davis Hanson wrote regularly for NRO (National Review Online), had done OpEds for the Wall street Journal, and other publications, and had his own Website with a widespread following) said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same "Green Room" before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful ("hot") wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative.

I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast.

However, it is now easy to surmise that Joe Wilson is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, vain, egotistical, bragaddocio-opportunist, so this account is perfectly consistent with Valerie Plame's TWO photo shoots in Vanity Fair. (Or was it Vogue? No, probably too crass for Vogue, n'est pas?)


38 posted on 07/17/2005 4:41:35 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales appears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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