Posted on 07/15/2005 9:05:52 PM PDT by ex-Texan
Come to think of it, the execution of Tim McVeigh set a speed record too, I think.Yup.
In the world of the conspiracy theorist proof = speed.
Thanks for the refresher.Thanks for your honest reply too; I have often thought that all you conspiracy theorists feed on is the Cliff Note's or internet verison of life and how things work, never considering underlying physics, 'cause and effect' linkages or 'commonality' in the failure modes of mechanical and electrical systems.
To you guys it is all a nebulous conspiracy or black magic ...
Yes _Jim, you've said similar things hundreds if not thousands of time. We used to waste time on you, but you've actually gone on to a higher calling, providing unintended levity that makes the forum a brighter place.
I for one appreciate it.
We used to waste time on you, but you've actually gone on to a higher calling,I know; most of you on these 'subjects' have simply 'left the planet' (was that the 'higher calling' you were alluding to?)
Take Uncle Bill's multiple posting on "Y2K Internment Camps" and the planned takeover of US businesses by the US Gov't - they were a RIOT!
Did you know that ignoring reality and instead creating your own 'fictitious' circumstances is a) fabrication b) living in fiction c) one step away from living 'deluded' (literally: having delusions)?
That's accetable - if you are a DUer, MoveOn.orger, DNCer, but not so acceptable otherwise ...
I went to your link,thanks.>p> How is it that there are so many witnesses and no senate hearing was called...or was there?
I will, thanks.
This is very confusing. I guess it's up to each of us to make our own judgement call.
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Nowhere near Long Island Sound, which is on the north. The plane went down over the Atlantic, thirty miles south of the sound and off the South Shore.
No cigar for you either.
sure did
This is very confusing. I guess it's up to each of us to make our own judgement call.The 'conspiracy industry' would rather you didn't download the *free* NTSB report, but rather you should order their books and videos ...
The 'conspiracy industry' will spoon feed you, play on other similar 'conspiracies' and whet your appetite for more without introducing any contradictory evidence; the NTSB report will contain bland test results, incomprehensible (to laymen) jargon, confusing (again, to the layman) figures and sketches, noted similar historical accidents, objective observations on conditions and environment and reports from competent pilot witnesses ...
When I need your advice I'll ask for it.
I've only just become aware of a potential cover up. I haven't had time yet to read up on the matter before coming to my own conclusions. With so much info I have to dive into, I don't know how long before I reach that point.
You are correct sir, Long Island Sound is the other side of the Island. I apologise.
Good thing I don't smoke..:-)
No, the phrase is "when I need your advice, I'll give it to you"...:-)
Of course there couldn't have been a cover up in an election year, could there!
Of course there couldn't have been a cover up in an election year, could there!
LOL.. good one!
Cheers.
That may be true, but you need to bear in mind he had plenty of help, from conservative talk-show hosts to elected Republican governors such as Oklahoma's Frank Keating, a former FBI special agent.
Recall, for example, that Rush Limbaugh immediately took the bait about "hate radio" and portayed himself as the victim of Clinton's spurious charges. It's obvious to everyone except the left-leaning media that Limbaugh had about as much use for a person like Timothy McVeigh as goal posts do in a baseball game.
What's ironic about all this is there really was "hate radio" -- and still is, I believe -- but it's broadcast on low-power stations scattered around the country (plus short awve), not over 50,000-watt clear-channel outlets where ideology takes a back seat to making tons of money. Its audience might total thousands on a good day, not even close to the millions reached by the likes of Limbaugh, G. Gordon Liddy and Michael Reagan.
Americans who don't listen to talk radio could only conclude from the press reports that Limbaugh was exactly who Clinton was referring to, and Clinton, smart politician and consummate liar that he is, was not about to deny Limbaugh his place in the hot seat. If the shoe fits . . .
As for Republicans in deep denial about a conspiracy beyond the McVeigh-Nichols bomb-making team, note Frank Keating's remarks on the publication blurb last year of an book, Simple Truths: The Real Story of the Oklahoma City Bombing Investigation, written by two of the primary FBI cover-up artists investigators:
Former Oklahoma Governor Frank Keating calls a new book about the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing "a closed book on the case" and "a book that needed to be written."Perpetuate? Yes, I guess so....
In Simple Truths, never before published photographs from FBI files document how McVeigh and Nichols planned the robbery of an Arkansas gun dealer to finance the operation, prove the theory that only the two men were involved in the purchase of materials to make the bomb, and rebut theories that others conspired with McVeigh and Nichols.
In the foreword, former Governor Keating says the FBI's role in bringing McVeigh and Nichols to justice was the agency's "finest hour." Agent Hersley said the book was written "to set the record straight about the FBI's investigation that resulted in the convictions of McVeigh and Nichols." Agent Tongate said, "We want to dispel myths and inaccuracies promulgated and endorsed by misguided individuals and/or groups based on loosely associated connections or events."
Co-author Burke, said, "It is our purpose to put to rest theories of any Middle Eastern connection or any other outside involvement in the bombing. The simple truth is that McVeigh and Nichols alone used their hatred of the federal government to perpetuate a horrible and senseless crime."
Keating, Limbaugh and other "right-wing Republicans" of prominence will continue to excuse the FBI and the cover-up, dismissing any and all who challenge the official story as "conspiracy theorists."
So what's a few thousand miles and an ocean or two among friends?
Read tomorrow bump.
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