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Our safety is in the hands of Pakistan
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | July 17, 2005 | Con Coughlin

Posted on 07/16/2005 11:15:55 PM PDT by MadIvan

Irrespective of whether you are dealing with the disaffected youth of Leeds or a brainwashed Jihadi at a madrassa on the North West Frontier, the inescapable conclusion is that Pakistan forms the epicentre of Osama bin Laden's unremitting campaign of terror against the West.

This unpalatable, yet irrefutable, truth will no doubt come as a shock to Tony Blair and the other coalition leaders who have placed such faith in President Pervez Musharraf's ability to rein in al-Qaeda's murderous activities. It was, after all, Mr Blair who helped to persuade the Pakistani general to decide whose side he was on after President George W Bush issued his "you are either with us, or you are with the terrorists" dictum in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks.

When Mr Blair flew to Islamabad in October 2001 he was under no illusions about the role that Pakistan's infamous ISI intelligence service had played in creating the Taliban, and had been briefed by Britain's Secret Intelligence Service (SIS) chiefs about the activities of A Q Khan, the "father" of the Pakistani bomb, in clandestinely proliferating nuclear technology to such unsavoury regimes as Libya and Iran.

Even so the dictates of realpolitik required Messrs Blair and Bush to get the Pakistanis on side so that they could focus their energies on tackling the more pressing issue of overthrowing the Taliban in Afghanistan and destroying bin Laden's terror infrastructure.

In return for helping to round up al-Qaeda operatives and generally assisting with the coalition's war effort, General Musharraf was promised, and has received, hundreds of millions of dollars in US aid. Four years on, it is looking increasingly as though Mr Blair, in particular, has got the raw end of the bargain.

Let us gloss over the complicity of renegade sections of Pakistan's ISI in facilitating the escape of bin Laden and Mullah Omar, the Taliban's spiritual leader, at the end of the Afghan war, and ignore the fact that we still do not know the full extent of A Q Khan's nuclear criminality (because Musharraf insists on preserving his national hero status). It is now clear that the West's courtship of General Musharraf is in deep trouble.

Last week's revelation that two of the London bombers had spent time in Pakistan is depressingly familiar. Virtually every British subject known to be involved with al-Qaeda, from Richard Reid, the shoe-bomber, to the two British suicide bombers responsible for blowing up a Tel Aviv bar in May 2003, had visited Pakistan in the months leading up to their terror attacks. And in each case it appears that individuals who, in the main, left these shores nurturing nothing more sinister than a youthful sense of ennui returned with a burning desire to commit murder and create mayhem.

As the shocked relatives of the 22-year-old bomber Shehzad Tanweer explained last week, the young athletics enthusiast underwent a radical transformation after he spent a few months last year in Pakistan studying the Koran and Arabic. Tanweer, it now transpires, had spent his time studying at a madrassa, a religious establishment where the students are required to devote their entire energy to studying the Koran.

There are thought to be an estimated 20,000 such places in the country - the Pakistani authorities are unable to provide an accurate number. Many provide an important and valuable education for the children of poor families who would otherwise have no schooling.

But a significant number have a far more sinister agenda: inculcating the cult of martyrdom and sacrifice into their pupils in the hope that the blood of these naive young Muslims will one day enable the Islamic creed to conquer the entire world.

Even more alarming for our security forces is the fact that hundreds, if not thousands, of the young British Muslim men and women who are sent to study at Pakistan's madrassas return to these shores filled with the conviction that it is their Islamic duty to sacrifice their lives as suicide bombers.

As one senior British security official commented last week, sending a British Muslim to a Pakistani madrassa "is the equivalent of sending them to a bin Laden boot camp".

Both Washington and London have in the past urged President Musharraf to curtail the Islamic brainwashing taking place in the madrassas, but Pakistan's response has been at best half-hearted, mainly because the country's military and intelligence community fully support the Islamic agenda that the madrassas represent.

All this must now change if Pakistan wants to remain a key coalition ally in the war on terror. Many of the intelligence failings that enabled the London bomb attacks to take place were caused by the inability of the security forces to track the activities of British nationals visiting Pakistan.

Lulled into a false sense of security by Pakistani assurances that they had the extremists under control, British intelligence seems to have missed the fact that a new, better organised al-Qaeda network has developed since bin Laden's eviction from Afghanistan.

One of the more remarkable aspects of the London bombers was that, even though they had been radicalised to the point where they were prepared to carry out suicide bomb attacks, they took great care not to give any indication to their friends or family of their fanatical outlook. As one of Tanweer's relatives lamented last week, "there was nothing in his behaviour to show us that anything had changed".

This is just one of the many new tactics al-Qaeda has developed as it seeks to maintain its campaign of terror. And despite the fact that many operational aspects of the cell that carried out the London bombings were home grown - the DIY explosive, for example - British intelligence remains convinced they received guidance from al-Qaeda veterans.

"The degree of sophistication demonstrated by the London bombers is not something you pick up off the internet," says a senior British intelligence officer. "The timing of the attack, the coordination of the bombings; this all indicates they had outside help."

Not surprisingly, much of the British effort to prevent further attacks will now focus on Pakistan and the ability of al-Qaeda to recruit naive British Muslims to their cause. And if we are to have any chance of success, then President Musharraf must decide whether he is really with us in the war against Islamic fanaticism.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gwot; londonattacked; madrassas; musharaff; pakistan
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If this was the era of the British Empire, the madrassas would have been burned to the ground already. Is this post-imperial world supposed to be better?

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 07/16/2005 11:15:56 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Semper911; lutz; Deetes; Barset; fanfan; LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; pax_et_bonum; Alkhin; ..

Ping!


2 posted on 07/16/2005 11:16:14 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: MadIvan
The reality of a WOT against 1.2 billion Muslims starts to sink in. There are 150 million people in Pakistan, most of them young.

China is waiting in the wings.

3 posted on 07/16/2005 11:37:29 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: MadIvan
Release the football thugs!

I don't know what Musharraf's secret thoughts are but it seems that the guy has a tough job and is doing the best that he can, between assasination attempts. I have no doubt that he is tougher on islamists than us or the Brits.

4 posted on 07/16/2005 11:39:15 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: MadIvan

If our safety is in the hands of Pakistan, we're in one Helluva shape.


5 posted on 07/16/2005 11:41:07 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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To: BnBlFlag
If our safety is in the hands of Pakistan, we're in one Helluva shape.

Only because the west has castrated fools for leaders.

6 posted on 07/16/2005 11:44:19 PM PDT by rmmcdaniell
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To: MadIvan

We've also got 1 billion Indians who would love to smackdown the Pakis.


7 posted on 07/16/2005 11:44:55 PM PDT by Maynerd (When do we turn the Ka'Ba' into Ka'Boom?)
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To: MadIvan
"It is now clear that the West's courtship of General Musharraf is in deep trouble. "

I'll believe that when I see it.

8 posted on 07/16/2005 11:46:41 PM PDT by endthematrix ("an ominous vacancy" fills this space)
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To: BnBlFlag
If our safety is in the hands of Pakistan, we're in one Helluva shape.

Even since BCCI in the 80's and 90's, it has been known that Pakistan is a rogue state. Heroin dealing (the Afghans grow, the Paks refine and sell), nuke proliferation, the Taliban, money laundering, sanctuary to al Qaeda, madrassas (aka "hate schools") etc.

You name it, and Pakistan has been involved in it, with nefarious global and regional motives.

Of course the Saudis contribute generously to the problem.

9 posted on 07/17/2005 12:03:08 AM PDT by angkor
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To: MadIvan

um, good luck, these are the people who Ghandi couldn't get to chill


10 posted on 07/17/2005 12:29:44 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (whats wrong with a draft?)
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To: Carry_Okie

Exactly few people understand the magnitude of Islam and the WOT. Even Pakistan itself is a huge nation.


11 posted on 07/17/2005 12:44:26 AM PDT by ran15
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To: ran15
Exactly few people understand the magnitude of Islam and the WOT.

That's one reason the amount of money we're spending in Iraq really concerns me. We can't afford to buy Iraqi cooperation, in fact, such may do them more harm than good.

13 posted on 07/17/2005 1:05:57 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: ran15

Pakistan has areas which the Pakistani government doesn't control...these are called "tribal areas". All manner of lawlessness from opium production to terrorist training camps goes on there.

Again, this is supposed to be better than Imperial rule?

Regards, Ivan


14 posted on 07/17/2005 1:07:38 AM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: Eagles6

"I don't know what Musharraf's secret thoughts are but it seems that the guy has a tough job and is doing the best that he can, between assasination attempts. I have no doubt that he is tougher on islamists than us or the Brits."

That just highlights the problem though. While he may be doing the best he can, it doesn't seem to be having much effect.

And he's probably the best we could expect from a leader of Pakistan, so what happens when one of the assassination/coup attempts gets through. You can bet the next guy is worse for us, what's out back-up plan then?


15 posted on 07/17/2005 1:43:24 AM PDT by Canard
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To: MadIvan

There's a simple solution to the problem of Pakistani influence on British youth: only give visas for trips to Pakistan to business people. Keep young students out of Pakistan and they won't return as bombers. Tony is a courageous man but he tends to overcomplicate some of these issues in his attempts to keep everyone happy.


16 posted on 07/17/2005 1:58:34 AM PDT by defenderSD (Suddenly the raven on Scalia's shoulder stirred and spoke. Quoth the raven...."Nevergore.")
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To: defenderSD

"only give visas for trips to Pakistan to business people. Keep young students out of Pakistan and they won't return as bombers. Tony is a courageous man but he tends to overcomplicate some of these issues in his attempts to keep everyone happy."

How does the British government have any control over who gets visas to enter Pakistan?


17 posted on 07/17/2005 2:14:32 AM PDT by Canard
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To: Canard

The Brits have to work out a deal with the Pakis to keep British students out of Pakistan. Heck, we gave them a billion dollars, that's the least they can do for the US and our allies.


18 posted on 07/17/2005 2:19:12 AM PDT by defenderSD (Suddenly the raven on Scalia's shoulder stirred and spoke. Quoth the raven...."Nevergore.")
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To: defenderSD

The least they could do would be to close down the madrasses. I just don't have any faith in their ability to do it. Wouldn't have much faith in their ability to keep students out of the country either.


19 posted on 07/17/2005 2:21:38 AM PDT by Canard
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To: Carry_Okie

What exactly is China waiting for??It is afterall,Pakistan's oldest ally.


20 posted on 07/17/2005 3:36:54 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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