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SMOKERS NOT WELCOME AT WINTHROP BEACH, Maine - Then post a sign!
Maine Smokers Rights ^ | 7-16-05 | D. Brennan

Posted on 07/17/2005 11:51:36 AM PDT by SheLion

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To: Cultural Jihad

I believe she corrected the image issues AND explained herself here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1444856/posts?page=3#3


51 posted on 07/17/2005 4:03:20 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: bannie

Found it and pinged you.


52 posted on 07/17/2005 4:06:46 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Cultural Jihad
So the town places a sign on the beach, and that is that?

That's all they have to do.  "This is a no smoking beach area.  Smokers will be removed."  That's all they are required to do.

Then smokers can decide if they still want to set up there or go on to another beach.

53 posted on 07/17/2005 4:22:09 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: philetus

Sorry, I meant it's not nice for your ISP to not give you enough bandwidth.

Oh!  ~whew! LOL!

Well, I have sites on Tripod and Geo Cities.  The images I load on those two sites won't allow me to use them on Free Republic.

So I bought another site "Host File."  They allow remote loading.  That is where I store all my images for Free Republic.  But I posted this on my Maine Smokers Rights this morning and forgot that I loaded the pictures at Geo.  So, of course, when I posted this as a thread here, the pictures didn't show up.

I was embarrassed.


54 posted on 07/17/2005 4:24:33 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Perhaps SheLion isn't aware that we cannot see the images she posted links to, as they may still appear from her cache to her own browser, but not ours.

Oh common.

I've been apart of the Internet since 1994.  I gave my explanation as to why the images didn't appear when I first posted this thread.

I had been working out of Geo Cities all morning and then slapped this onto Free Republic before I remembered that I had to load the pictures in Host File so they would show up here.

How many other times have you read my threads and my images didn't show up?  Not very often!

55 posted on 07/17/2005 4:28:04 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Mears
Now,now,She,remember my son is with NYPD---though they probably have more to do in NYC than harass smokers----at least I hope so.

Oh I would certainly think so, Mears. I don't think Winthrop is all that big. How many cops do they have there anyway? 4???

56 posted on 07/17/2005 4:29:32 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Calpernia
I believe she corrected the image issues AND explained herself here:

Thank you! And I did it again! ~whew!

57 posted on 07/17/2005 4:30:21 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: mewzilla; SheLion

Madame Dufarge and I lived at the beach for twenty-eight years. Broken glass was 100 times the threat cigarettes were.


58 posted on 07/17/2005 5:19:43 PM PDT by metesky (This land was your land, this land is MY land; I bought the rights from a town selectman!)
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To: metesky
Madame Dufarge and I lived at the beach for twenty-eight years. Broken glass was 100 times the threat cigarettes were.

I was hoping you would weigh in, metesky! Broken glass on the beaches. Very true!!!

59 posted on 07/17/2005 5:21:13 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

Smokers are being harrassed all over the place by all kinds of people in authority. They just can't leave us alone!


60 posted on 07/17/2005 5:57:40 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: tm22721
Unless you can confine your smoke such that it does not impinge on the rights of others, your so-called smoking rights end where the noses of others begin.

Maybe smokers feel the same way about your body odor. Off the beach, stinky.

I guess grills have to go too because they produce....SMOKE

61 posted on 07/17/2005 6:01:37 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: SheLion
"We used to spend every summer at the beach when I was a teenager. And that was back in the days where everyone smoked. And I still can't remember butts all over the beach like the anti's are trying to pin on us today. Can you?"

I was just thinking the above. Agreed. Furthermore, I can never recall being burnt on the beach by a cigarette and during various periods of my life, I spent entire summers on the beach, when there were many more smokers and laws/rules against smoking were almost non-existent

62 posted on 07/17/2005 6:03:11 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: SheLion

If you notice in the above picture, there is NO ONE sitting by the family.


63 posted on 07/17/2005 6:04:35 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: SheLion

You mean I don't get the "pleasure" of stepping on some redneck low class junky's smoldering butt in my bare feet?? Oh the humanity!!


64 posted on 07/17/2005 6:07:47 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: mewzilla
Amen as I put in another post:

"You mean I don't get the "pleasure" of stepping on some redneck low class junky's smoldering butt in my bare feet?? Oh the humanity!!"

65 posted on 07/17/2005 6:09:27 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: tm22721
Non-smokers have rights too. I'm glad that Maine enacted this ordinance. I hope the whole country follows suit. I am not against smokers, just the obnoxious, toxic substance that they expel from their lungs into the faces of others. Unless you can confine your smoke such that it does not impinge on the rights of others, your so-called smoking rights end where the noses of others begin. BUMP

You are kidding, right?

In the great outdoors, at a breezy beach, smoking should not be allowed?

I think your overly sensitive nose should keep itself out of other people's business.

Last I heard, smoking was legal.

You remind me of the anti-smoking zealots in Minneapolis that had smoking banned in every bar and restaurant.

If you abhor smoking so much, stick to non-smoking establishments. There are more than enough of them to please anyone's tastes.

Stop trying to legislate other people's legal behavior. It's contrary to a free society and kind of paints you as a control freak.

66 posted on 07/17/2005 6:27:58 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: SheLion

So true, I was lucky enough to move to California when they started in with the smoker bashing brainwashing.. Wife and I learned that when we ate out, we ate, Paid, ran out, and did not spend another second in the place.

Now that I am in Nevada, it took us time to get used to sitting after a meal and having a smoke. Its very relaxing and I really missed it. Nothing better than a smoke and a cup of coffee after a nice dinner out.

We also go out to eat alot more than we used to in Kalifornistan :)


67 posted on 07/17/2005 6:34:26 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: eXe

That's how I felt when I came home from the Navy from San Diego to Colorado. It's as if all states that have accomodations for smokers are somehow expected to be plagued with innocent bystanders keeling over in the streets and resturaunts. And we all know that THAT'S a bunch of BS.

Unfortunately, this BS mentality seems to have followed me east. That's fine. I have a good countermeasure against this -one of many.


68 posted on 07/17/2005 6:53:00 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: TAdams8591; SheLion

Of all the beaches I've visited all around the world, the most I've seen litter-wise were:
((In order of frequency))
--beer cans/bottles (Partially buried)
--pet poo
--burnt wood
--condoms (used)
--socks
--toys (Legos -OW!)
--condoms (unused)
--cigarette butts
--plastic utensils

This includes the beaches in San Diego; Freemantle, Australia; Phuket, Thailand; Mombasa, Kenya; Singapore; Manilla, Phillipines; Hawaii and various rivers and lakes in Colorado.


69 posted on 07/17/2005 7:21:01 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: mplsconservative
"In the great outdoors, at a breezy beach, smoking should not be allowed?"

It drove me wild when people began to complain about smoking outdoors. Now there are laws against it. It is insane.

70 posted on 07/17/2005 7:45:48 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Were you ever burnt by one of those cigarette butts while walking on any of the beaches you name?


71 posted on 07/17/2005 7:47:32 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Off-the-cuff-comments are NOT CLEAR and CONVINCING evidence.)
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To: TAdams8591

I hear you.

Insanity rules in an insane wold.


72 posted on 07/17/2005 7:59:38 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: TAdams8591
If you notice in the above picture, there is NO ONE sitting by the family.

Exactly. They aren't bothering anyone. Some control freak had to have turned them in.

73 posted on 07/17/2005 8:11:22 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Nov3
You mean I don't get the "pleasure" of stepping on some redneck low class junky's smoldering butt in my bare feet?? Oh the humanity!!

What a shame.  Everyone I know that lives in TN are wonderful, kind and gently people.  I guess every state has the hard core jerks in them such as yourself.  Pity.

"Redneck?"  "Junky"  Takes one to know one, I guess.  Right Suzy?

74 posted on 07/17/2005 8:13:52 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: mplsconservative
Stop trying to legislate other people's legal behavior. It's contrary to a free society and kind of paints you as a control freak.

Looks like a few of them crawled out from under their rocks tonight!

75 posted on 07/17/2005 8:15:36 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: eXe
We also go out to eat alot more than we used to in Kalifornistan :)

The smoking bans are pathetic and they are choking our nation's economy!

My favorite place to eat almost closed their doors after the first smoking ban in Maine in 2000.

The owner then invested in a very expensive liquor license and business started to boom again.

They then remodeled.  The place is beautiful.  4 big ceiling air purifiers.  Full menu.  A beautiful glass enclosed non-smoking section.  Sign on the entrance door "This is a smoking establishment.  No one under 18 admitted without guardian."

It is a Sports Bar with the full computer golf game across the back wall;  bunch of big TV's.  Just beautiful.

But that still wasn't good enough for the state.  A full no smoking ban went into effect a year ago January.  I went once after the ban, was so miserable that I couldn't sit there like old times and enjoy the evening that I haven't put myself through that again.

And do you think the state will reimburse this business owner for spending his own money to be able to accommodate everyone?  You can bet they will not.

I absolutely refuse to eat out in a no smoking establishment.  Why should I spend my money for that personal abuse?  No way!

And I miss it dearly.

76 posted on 07/17/2005 8:18:24 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SheLion

SheLion,

I agree. Get a life rock dwellers!

i am a 45 year old female who would truly love to break my addiction to ciggies.

My hubbiy did it cold turkey nine years ago. Says I can do the same. Not without killing him in the process!

Peri-menopause and smoking cessation are a lethal mix!


77 posted on 07/17/2005 8:32:23 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Calpernia

;-)


78 posted on 07/17/2005 8:47:02 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: mewzilla
But just out of curiosity, where does one dispose of a ciggie while on the beach?
Is this test gonna count? Nobody said there'd be a quiz! Ok, I'm calm now. Spain? 1492? Wait - Japan?
Ok the real answers - Me? I smoke Shermans - No filter - no chemicals - when I dig a small hole in the sand its out in two seconds - unless you're stomping across my blanket you'll be OK.

I too object to smokers leaving their butts behind but a "field-stripping" campaign would be more likely accepted.

After all as smokers and drinkers we're carrying your sanctimonius twit's asses by providing a target for tax increases that hardly any one objects to because they wish they didn't smoke or drink too.

And yes I know you're a long timer - but I'm not married to my screen name so ZOT me! ;-)

If these "sin" taxes have a basis shouldn't we add SUV gas taxes? Ice cream taxes? Posting on FR taxes? Lying on the beach bitching taxes? Ease off ... I feel better already ... ;-)


Lastly - Buy yourself a pack of smokes. Go to the beach. Light one. Puff on it. You don't have to inhale - don't worry Willy didn't either. When it's half way down - definitely "lit" - stuff it into the sand for a 5 count - "one thousand one, one thousand two ... etc. and then pull it out and feel it - if it still can burn you I'll buy you a steak dinner at Bern's in Tampa - 'course you'll have to sit with me - I've been meaning to eat there but never have. ;-)
79 posted on 07/17/2005 8:49:25 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (In honor of our bravest in armed service to our nation.)
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To: SheLion

bttt


80 posted on 07/17/2005 8:56:22 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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To: Cultural Jihad
You have a point. I've also heard the point made saying "ignorance of the law is no excuse."
So the day after the Winthrop Beach, Maine town council passes an edict stating that you may only exhale on even seconds but does not post a sign you're OK with your arrest for violating their ordinance?
Witches were treated better than smokers. At least the English didn't tax them. :-(
81 posted on 07/17/2005 9:00:36 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (In honor of our bravest in armed service to our nation.)
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To: SheLion

Trying to help ... if they can't take a joke ... (fill in blank here) ;-)


82 posted on 07/17/2005 9:02:53 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (In honor of our bravest in armed service to our nation.)
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To: SheLion
Very true. Your posts are usually quite well done.
83 posted on 07/17/2005 9:21:05 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: SheLion
Speaking the truth brings these vitriolic replies. Junkies react predictably when their habit is challenged!

Just wondering - why did you cut off the top of the sign in your photo???? Was there something there you didn't want us to see?

84 posted on 07/17/2005 9:26:50 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: RandallFlagg

I've found needles.

In parks and beaches.

Enough to request them added to your list.


85 posted on 07/17/2005 9:33:33 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SheLion

>>>The owner then invested in a very expensive liquor license and business started to boom again.

Is this the back ended point then? Ban the smokes to force a liquor license to stay in business?


86 posted on 07/17/2005 9:36:45 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Tunehead54

That was funny!

Bump!


87 posted on 07/17/2005 9:39:53 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Banning the use of laws to discourage an unhealthy habit is likewise an encroachment of freedoms.

I agree. And I can't WAIT until they take on the crap that's served at McDonald's. I mean, I can't even stand the people that go to that trailer-trash "restaurant".

Right on, CJ, you're my kind of guy! No slack for slackers, I say!
88 posted on 07/17/2005 10:11:16 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The story is true" - Dan Rather)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Not at all. If people are going to be irresponsible then members of society have a right to discourage them.

Damn right. And don't even get me started on gay sex habits!

At least smokers usually drop dead from strokes and heart attacks - or maybe a case of lung cancer that lasts for a year or two.

But why should I pay fro A DECADE or two of expensive AIDS treatment for some Hershy-highway happy cowboy when they could have kept their unit in their pants - or at LEAST put a rubber on it.

There ought to be a law!

89 posted on 07/17/2005 10:20:20 PM PDT by Fido969 ("The story is true" - Dan Rather)
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To: TAdams8591
Were you ever burnt by one of those cigarette butts while walking on any of the beaches you name?

Nope. They were rather old.
90 posted on 07/18/2005 4:43:09 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: SheLion
And guess what? I bet YOU have habits that I would find disgusting. Get it?

Non-smokers tend to flatulate and whine more than smokers.

91 posted on 07/18/2005 4:53:47 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Fido969
At least smokers usually drop dead from strokes and heart attacks - or maybe a case of lung cancer that lasts for a year or two.

Did you know pipe-smokers live longer than non-smokers?

92 posted on 07/18/2005 4:55:06 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: SheLion
Well, I'm not saying it's impossible, but I never heard of your experience from anyone else in all my life, either.

Well, it has happened to me too.

I oppose the "right" of a smoker to burn me.

93 posted on 07/18/2005 5:03:26 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

And I oppose the "right" of boozers to slice me open.........last time I needed a tetnus shot was because I stepped on a broken booze bottle at the beach.


94 posted on 07/18/2005 5:16:18 AM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) USSG Warning: Portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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To: Gabz
last time I needed a tetnus shot was because I stepped on a broken booze bottle at the beach.

Look at the pix again--rule # 5 prohibits glass containers. This is a common rule at all beaches I have been to.

Why should smokers get a pass on following the rules?

You don't like the rules, vote to change them.

95 posted on 07/18/2005 5:34:02 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

The glass container rule is at any and all beaches I've ever been at including th one where I sliced open my foot - but the boozers apparently get a pass on the rule.

Apparently from what is posted here there was no sign about no-smoking..if there is no sign, who is asking for a pass?


96 posted on 07/18/2005 5:39:40 AM PDT by Gabz ((Chincoteague, VA) USSG Warning: Portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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To: Nov3
Just wanted to let you know that the top of the sign was Winthrop Beach. I am the one this happened to! The only thing that is "hidden" here is the fact they changed an original ORDINANCE dated June 12th 1989 and did not follow the rules of procedure to change an ordinance. The rules for change are clearly stated in the "Grant Of The Powers Of The Town" under the Constitution and laws of the State of Maine!!!

p.s. This is my first time posting and notice the user name? :)
97 posted on 07/18/2005 6:12:17 AM PDT by puffin
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To: Tunehead54
Trying to help ... if they can't take a joke ... (fill in blank here) ;-)

Thanks for posting!  Nice to meet you!  Do you want on my Puff List? :)

I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner, but cigarette extinguish themselves in sand. That's right!  It's not like they are laying on a carpet and catching fire, right?  That is why most out door receptacle's contain sand to butt out a cigarette.

Walla!!!!! 

98 posted on 07/18/2005 6:31:55 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Very true. Your posts are usually quite well done.

Thank you!

Yesterday morning, I was in a hurry. :)

99 posted on 07/18/2005 6:33:17 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Nov3
Just wondering - why did you cut off the top of the sign in your photo???? Was there something there you didn't want us to see?

You will have to ask the family that "took" the pictures.  They sent them to me in email.  I didn't crop anything out of the photos.

100 posted on 07/18/2005 6:34:34 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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