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IFC & Drawing Center to be "Reconsidered" - Freepers, Here's Your Chance To Stop A Travesty!
http://www.takebackthememorial.com ^ | 7/17/05

Posted on 07/17/2005 5:37:46 PM PDT by MplsSteve

IFC & Drawing Center to be “Reconsidered” July 15th, 2005 In what can only be described as a major victory in the fight to get the IFC and the Drawing Center off the site at Ground Zero, the LMDC has announced they are looking for alternative sites for the two cultural centers. However, in making that announcement, LMDC Board Chairman John Whitehead immediately downplayed the expectation of finding another location.

The World Trade Center Memorial Foundation, acknowledging protests by relatives of Sept. 11 victims, is taking ‘one last look’ at alternatives to placing a ‘museum of freedom’ and art museum adjacent to the planned memorial, foundation chairman John Whitehead said.

(Excerpt) Read more at takebackthememorial.com ...


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 911; groundzero; memorial; september11th; twintowers; worldtradecenter; wtcmemorial
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The Lower Manhattan Development Corp (LMDC) is starting to bend under pressure from many citizens who shudder at the thought of the WTC site being politicized.

The International Freedom Center (say it with sarcasm) is an abomination and needs to be stopped. Here's a chance to do it.

E-Mail the LMDC and give 'em your thoughts. I did a short while ago. I told 'em that the IFC in an awful idea. I said that although I'm sure there is a place for self-loathing and white liberal guilt, Ground Zero is not that place!

C'mon, we can do this! There are many of us out there. Let's be heard on this.

BTW, sign the online petition at htp://www.takebackthe memorial.com too.

1 posted on 07/17/2005 5:37:46 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: All

Sorry folks. I got over-excited about this and forgot to give you the link to contact the LMDC. Here it is:

<a href="http://renewnyc.org/Memorial/frm_memcomments.asp


2 posted on 07/17/2005 5:42:46 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve

this could be good news - I know that Pataki had spoken out against this, let's see the details, usually these NY "agency" creations answer to no one.


3 posted on 07/17/2005 5:43:38 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: MplsSteve

Thanks. I went there and submitted a message. I usually loathe giving my name and address, but in this case I deemed it worth it. We cannot let the International Freedom Center or art exhibit or whatever other politcal thing they have in mind make it to fruition.

I just cannot believe people have sunk so low as to do something like this to further their own politcal agenda.


4 posted on 07/17/2005 5:57:42 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: MplsSteve
Just start calling it what it really is (or is proposed to be)

"The KMAA Memorial Center"

(the kiss my a$$ america memorial center)

5 posted on 07/17/2005 6:15:00 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: MplsSteve

Followed your link, emailed them my comments.


6 posted on 07/17/2005 6:37:44 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (fiat voluntas Tua)
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To: Fudd Fan

BTTT


7 posted on 07/17/2005 7:58:39 PM PDT by dickmc
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To: MplsSteve

I signed. Thanks!


8 posted on 07/18/2005 11:26:41 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: MplsSteve; oceanview; Calpernia; rlmorel; xcamel; Fudd Fan; dickmc; Do not dub me shapka broham; ...
From today's New York Post:

Drawing Center Penciling Itself Out of Plans

by Leonard Greene

It could be back to the drawing board for the controversial Drawing Center.

The edgy downtown museum has gone from preparing to move to Ground Zero, once construction there is complete, to considering pulling out of the site altogether, according to a published report.

The museum has been criticized by relatives of some 9/11 victims who say cultural displays---especially those critical of the United States---have no place at the hallowed site.

Catherine de Zegher, The Drawing Center's executive director, is waiting to hear from the Lower Manhattan Development Corp. about how much freedom the museum would have at the site.

"The LMDC knows we would never be able to accept censorship," she told Crain's New York.

The Drawing Center, one of four cultural institutions chosen a year ago to move to Ground Zero, was attacked last month over an exhibit at its SoHo gallery satirizing President Bush's "axis of evil" comments.

Another of the four, the Freedom Center, has been similarly criticized over programming plans deemed unpatriotic. But it has assured the LMDC that is content will not be un-American.

The Drawing Center's refusal to make such a promise has riled critics.

"We just want them to represent people who died that day," said Sonia Bonomo, whose daughter, Yvette, 30, perished on 9/11.

9 posted on 07/18/2005 11:29:42 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
YEA!!!!!
10 posted on 07/18/2005 11:49:35 AM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: firebrand

"The LMDC knows we would never be able to accept censorship," she told Crain's New York.


How telling. Usually, this is important because these people have not shown themselves in the past to be able to be appropriate and responsible.

To them, someone saying "Shhhh...." to them when they start spouting cusswords in a church is censorship.


11 posted on 07/18/2005 12:54:45 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: MplsSteve; rlmorel; oceanview; firebrand; rmlew; Velveeta; jocon307; cyborg; Cacique
Listening to a discussion on WNYC about this very topic right now.

KEEP UP THE PRESSURE, FOLKS!

12 posted on 07/18/2005 2:47:47 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Thank you for the update on this important issue.


13 posted on 07/18/2005 3:56:58 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham; Peach

any new information?

the proper place for the museum is clear to me - the New York Times building.


14 posted on 07/18/2005 4:53:54 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: MplsSteve

THE SOROS-IZATION OF GROUND ZERO
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1418112/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1422800/posts
"New York 9-11 Memorial will include museums on Indian genocide, black slavery genocide, more"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1424158/posts
THE ROLE OF CHARITIES AND NGO’S IN THE FINANCING OF TERRORIST ACTIVITIES

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1441855/posts
Take Back The Memorial


15 posted on 07/18/2005 5:21:45 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: MplsSteve

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1388699/posts
Email Contacts for Media, Government, USA, Europe, Consulates, Embassy and more for Activism


16 posted on 07/18/2005 5:22:37 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Velveeta; firebrand; Fedora; Blurblogger; Coleus; backhoe; cyborg; wtc911; hineybona; Wuli; ...

ping


17 posted on 07/18/2005 5:23:14 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham
KEEP UP THE PRESSURE, FOLKS!

Sounds like a very promising start to getting rid of this atrocity. However, George Soros won't give up on the IFC without a fight. I'll bet he breaks out his reliable little sock puppets, Kristen Breitweiser and her Jersey Girls, to make the media rounds and tell us how all the "real" 9/11 families support the IFC and how the opposition to it is just more of Karl Rove's evil.

18 posted on 07/18/2005 5:40:31 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: Calpernia

Thank you for the optimistic news--keep up the pressure!


19 posted on 07/18/2005 6:19:31 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

I still can't get my local media to cover it though. My emails go unanswered, my phone calls get messages taken and no follow up.


20 posted on 07/18/2005 6:27:16 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Do you have a specific contact person you're emailing/calling? It might help to find a reporter/editor who seems sympathetic to the story and focus on them. I'm not sure what else to suggest there. Who's got experience dealing with the media here?


21 posted on 07/18/2005 6:37:57 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

For the newspaper I've contacted, I have a specific reporter I tried bringing the info to. I've been in contact with him before on other stories. I've got a feeling from the way things happened, the story was crushed from above. That is my opinion.

Our local news radio station, I've sent info to several sources. Not a peep on the air about this story. A strange happening there too.


22 posted on 07/18/2005 6:44:31 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

If they're crushing it from above, I'd think there's probably not much you can do with that particular paper unless the national news picks it up and they're forced to cover it because everyone else is. One other idea, though: if you know a local citizen who's prominent and conservative, maybe you could convince them to pressure the paper. Find some conservatives with clout in the area and get them to help, maybe.


23 posted on 07/18/2005 6:52:32 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

Yes. Tried. That was strange too.


24 posted on 07/18/2005 7:01:50 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Fedora

Appreciate the input though. Thanks.


25 posted on 07/18/2005 7:02:27 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia; nutmeg; firebrand; JulieRNR21

FANTASTIC NEWS!! We must keep the pressure on.


26 posted on 07/18/2005 7:10:35 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: Calpernia

Hmm. I'm stumped, too, then. One last idea: wait until some bigger media outside the area pick up the story, then xerox a copy and send it around to the local media to show them that other people are covering it and they're getting scooped.

If that doesn't work, rent a jet to write a skywriting ad, LOL.


27 posted on 07/18/2005 7:11:12 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fedora

>>>If that doesn't work, rent a jet to write a skywriting ad, LOL.

Ok. You got me there. I didn't try that :P


28 posted on 07/18/2005 7:19:25 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

I have read many of your posts here and have a lot of respect for you ideals. Try this...

1. Buy a subscription for home delivery.
2. Start posting every day to the editor/op-ed page via snail mail and email the message you want heard.
3. Give the paper one week then cancel your subscription and start printing flyers with your same message with a bold headline like "What your local paper refuses to publish". Insert the flyers into plastic page protectors (you can fit ten or twelve sheets) and hang on telephone poles next to their newsstands or boxes. I suspect that you will get their attention pretty quick.


29 posted on 07/18/2005 8:42:21 PM PDT by No2much3
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To: No2much3
You need a permit to flyer here.
I learned that the hard way.
And there are some/many heavy weights that are involved with keeping this out of the local news.

I'm being a little obscure here on the public board. For a reason.

I'm not obscure at all with my activism though ^-^
30 posted on 07/18/2005 8:57:09 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: oceanview; CFC__VRWC; arasina; firebrand; cyborg; Petronski; rmlew; Victoria Delsoul; Cacique; ...
The New York Times is the biggest land-swindler/thief in this city.

And they have the nerve to complain about the sweetheart deals negotiated by other corporate entities?

Pfft!

What really irked me about the attitude of the person being interviewed, who was representing this pretentious, psuedo-sophisticated, supposedly artistic endeavor-and I refuse to confer an honorific, such as the term "art," upon the dreck that these troglodytes try to foist upon overly credulous faux Boho trash-is that it assumed that they were doing us a favor by gracing that hallowed ground with their ill-conceived, aesthetically revolting, anti-American pablum!

The good news is that this has occasioned "second thoughts" by several other of these self-loathing, hypocritical profiteers, who are now concerned that the future of the projects they've been commissioned to do-if not the entire underlying concept of the IFC-will be put in jeopardy after Governor Pataki and Mayor Bloomberg receive enough public pressure from aggrieved constituents.

Which is why we can't reiterate it strongly enough, KEEP THEM ON THE RUN!

The opinion of Soros and his contemptible clique of America-hating, socialist, Europhile speculators becomes immaterial, once you realize that the feckless, insipid pols who enabled them to even contemplate this outrage will truckle under enough public pressure.

They can feel the shifting political winds and don't want to be left on the wrong side of history.

They serve only with our consent!

Remember that!

-good times, G.J.P. (Jr.)

31 posted on 07/18/2005 9:15:48 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Calpernia

there are two ways to act...

1. Be Bold (It will cost you in time and money but you keep your pride).
2. Be Safe (Won't cost you anything but your pride).

This is a take on war. Sometimes it's better to fight the battles you can win...


32 posted on 07/18/2005 9:58:45 PM PDT by No2much3
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To: No2much3
bump for good advice.

I am fighting.

My personal experience for memories.

All pics are clickable for more.

I live with the memory of the sweet children on my lap asking how daddy fit in that little box. so don't worry about my drive on getting this info out. I have a nightmare that drives me.

33 posted on 07/18/2005 10:05:52 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: MplsSteve
The DUAC (DemoncRatic Underwear Activist Commitee) over in the DUmpster wrote, at last count yesterday, 564 letters in 6 days to editors of the newsrags protesting the Karl Rove non-story. Let's make 'em look like sissies when it comes to protesting something that is  vastly more important to the American people than their whining and sniveling.
 
Email your friends, everyone at work, relatives, etc. Get the word out! This has a chance now to be stopped. If we flood them with our complaints they will have no choice but to listen! This cannot be allowed to stand. IMHO this is an insult to the families who lost loved ones on 9/11.
 

34 posted on 07/19/2005 11:19:59 AM PDT by Allosaurs_r_us (I saw a woman wearing a sweat shirt with "Guess" on it... So I said "Implants?" ....She hit me!)
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To: Allosaurs_r_us; All

Damn straight!

I hope as many Freepers deluge the LMDC with calls and e-mails.

If they won't do that, they can easily sign the petition at:

<a href="http://takebackthememorial.org/petition/

Once anyone takes a look at the artists drawing of the IFC at Ground Zero, they'll agree that it has no place there.


35 posted on 07/19/2005 11:40:26 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: oceanview

I'm still so upset about this matter, but I like your idea and will sleep with a smile on my face thinking of it.


36 posted on 07/19/2005 9:05:09 PM PDT by Peach
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To: firebrand
"We just want them to represent people who died that day," said Sonia Bonomo, whose daughter, Yvette, 30, perished on 9/11.
37 posted on 07/22/2005 1:07:25 AM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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To: MplsSteve

Rebuild the Twin Towers. Only higher.


38 posted on 07/25/2005 1:50:33 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Calpernia

When we felt loss, know that it was your loss we felt.
When we mourned, know that it was with you that we mourned.
As we fight, know that it is for you that we fight.
When we are victorious, know that our victory will be yours.

In all, these past and future things are at every moment present with us. Amid the press of the daily, both past and future live pure in our minds and hearts. They are within us a power that drives us ever forward; the past because it cannot be changed; the future because it can.

Faith, O Daughter of Eve. Faith.


39 posted on 07/26/2005 7:11:28 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Tagline money spent on transmission repairs.)
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To: MplsSteve; Fudd Fan; oceanview; rlmorel; RedRover; Do not dub me shapka broham; xcamel; Fedora; ...

Text of email to LMDC follows:

Desecration of the "ground Zero" site by the inclusion of the so-called "International Freedom Center" is patently unacceptable. To engage such destructive political rhetoric upon the graves of the victims of the 9-11 terrorist attacks -- disfiguring the scene of their violent and tragic deaths into a platform for malicious lies and slander against the United States -- is thoroughly unconscionable.

If interested parties desire to erect such a travesty of anti-American propaganda, I am sure that they would be able to find ready acceptance at institutions having similar philosophical leanings. Such an institution may even be able and willing to assist in providing facility space in a building they already own, saving the time and expense of procuring real estate for the project.

I suggest that you have them contact the New York Times or the United Nations; We, the People, are already accustomed to these sources spewing denigrating rhetoric about America, so either one ought to be a perfect match for the IFC.

Regards


40 posted on 07/26/2005 7:18:50 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Tagline money spent on transmission repairs.)
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To: HKMk23

good letter. but to be honest, the LMDC has been compromised. we need political noise on this issue - get Rush or Hannity to cover it, not just a one time deal, but constantly so some politicos other then Pataki speak up.


41 posted on 07/26/2005 7:27:33 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview


Related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1450994/posts
9/11 Families Boycotting Memorial Fund


42 posted on 07/26/2005 8:47:29 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: HKMk23; oceanview; AliVeritas; Calpernia; cyborg
Mark Levin has been relentless on this issue!

To the best of my knowledge, he was the first talk radio host-of consequence-to interview Debra Burlingame in the wake of her scathing Wall St. Journal op-ed.

43 posted on 07/26/2005 9:04:54 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Hi can I hear Mark Levine? What show is he on?


44 posted on 07/26/2005 9:07:57 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

bump


45 posted on 07/26/2005 9:08:38 PM PDT by cyborg (That's Mrs.Petronski to you thank you very much.)
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To: Calpernia

http://www.wabcradio.com/showdj.asp?DJID=12009


46 posted on 07/26/2005 9:45:56 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: Calpernia

Disclaimor for the thread.

This picture is of my cousin. Not my husband. Thank you all kind freepers for the outreach. Sorry I didn't label the specific loss in my post.


47 posted on 07/27/2005 7:11:42 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

Thanks for the link!


48 posted on 07/27/2005 7:12:00 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

yes, but it has to be relentless - day after day pounding to get attention - like the Natalie Holloway case.


49 posted on 07/27/2005 10:00:32 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Calpernia
You're welcome!

:)

-good times, G.J.P. (Jr.)

50 posted on 07/27/2005 10:12:52 AM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham
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